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[Knives Amilli]

Ponder the following scenarios:

What will happen if the Blob and the Juggernaunt collided?

Juggs will bounce off of the Blob and both will remain elastic. Unstoppable force meets unmovable object scenario.

Who's the more powerful mystic, Strange, Zatana, Zatara, or Fate?
Strange imo. He's supposed to be the best Sorcerer in pretty much the entire "realm/dimension" that Earth is in

Who's faster Captain Marvel (DC,) or Diana. Member they both have the speed of Hermes.
Equal speed? lol I mean their speed source is the same.

Hulk v Superman. Superman. Supes haves super speed and flight. Supes can hover over the Hulk. If The Hulk leapt at Supes, Supes would wait for the last possible minute, using his super fast reflexs move out of the way, grap The Hulk, then fling The Hulk into space. I personally would think that Supes wouldn't engage in The Hulk in combat. I think he would use these two powers to his advantage. The fight would last minutes, if not even seconds.

Supes v Thor
Supes is canonically the winner. He ko'd him in JLA/Avengers

Is Rogue a virgin?
Nope. It was revealed that apparently, the Sentry hit that since her powers didn't affect him.

Admit it. Kryto is a wack ass concept.
Ehh he's okay. I personally hate the "Lex and Clark grew up together in SMALLVILLE" concept more.

Who's more powerful? Supergirl or Diana. Is Supergirl, though only a teenager, stronger because of her Krytonian hertiage. Or is Diana stronger due to maturity and experience.
Kara has far more potential to be stronger, but Diana would murk her in a fight. Experience.

Why is Namor better than Aquaman?
Namor's cooler and I like him more, but Aguaman beat him in their DC vs. marvel fight.

Finally, why is Rob Liefeld the most despised man in comics?
Because comic fans are pettty assholes for stupid reasons. Rob is a terrible artist who dumbed down his style to sell an assload of comics, but he shouldn't be hated for it. I mean shit it was the FANS buying the comics. Not like Rob was putting a gun to their head and making them buy them. In fact, its been stated numerous times that despite his "hated" status, he's one of the nicest guys in comics and willl even draw things for fans and his detractors that are kind of self mocking (one fan asked Rob to draw a characcter wearing like a million pouches, and he did it).

 

[Mr. 66Hundred]

Aquaman beat Namor by tying him up and havin a damn orca land on him right?
we both know that aint enough to stop Namor and Namor would bludgeon Aquaman to death wit his barehands

ps. I'm not one of those people who thinks Aquaman jus talks to fish, I KNOW he will let a muthafucca have it, but he got his hands full wit Namor

and the whole Supes/Thor thing goes bacc to the reason why u said Diana would beat Supes
Thor is said to have fought countless battles and he as been alive for millions of years
Its obvious I fux wit Supes, but I think Thor might get luccy.... especially wit that magic Hammer'

I gotta say if Supes CAN beat Thor.... that means Cpt Marvel CAN NOT beat Supes

 

[gns]

dam sentry crazy ass got some of rogues bayou pussy? when this happen?

and i thought magneto or joseph had hit already, po gambit.

 

[Mr. 66Hundred]

dam sentry crazy ass got some of rogues bayou pussy? when this happen?

and i thought magneto or joseph had hit already, po gambit.

LMFAO knowing Remy he probably almost died twice tryin to get domed up

 

[MrJR]

Tell the truth Son Goku is the most powerful superhero ever

 

[Mr. 66Hundred]

Tell the truth Son Goku is the most powerful superhero ever

Gohan is stronger than Goku

both them niggas weak

 

[Maximus Rex]

Ehh he's okay. I personally hate the "Lex and Clark grew up together in SMALLVILLE" concept more.[/B]

Word. This is a throw to the pre crisis days when Lex and Clark did grow up together. The origin of Lex's hatred for Supes being, Lex caused a fire, Superboy came and put the fire out, causing Lex's hair to fall out. Weak ass story telling and plot devices, but hey it was the 50's. In the interest of full disclosure, Byrnes' interpretion of Supes was my first exposure to the character, ( do have ten issues of pre-crisis Supes, but that's not nearly enough to give you a feel for the character. So I'm bias towards, Byrnes, Ordway, Jurgens, and Wolfman. In my opinion, Byrnes diciption of the Supes/Lex relationship was better. Also can somebody answer this question. In Action, Lex has a Lois robot, somebody please tell me that Lex is not fucking the Lois robot.

Finally, why is Rob Liefeld the most despised man in comics?

Because comic fans are pettty assholes for stupid reasons. Rob is a terrible artist who dumbed down his style to sell an assload of comics, but he shouldn't be hated for it. I mean shit it was the FANS buying the comics. Not like Rob was putting a gun to their head and making them buy them. In fact, its been stated numerous times that despite his "hated" status, he's one of the nicest guys in comics and willl even draw things for fans and his detractors that are kind of self mocking (one fan asked Rob to draw a characcter wearing like a million pouches, and he did it).[/QUOTE]

Is Liefeld to comics, what Soulja Boy is to rap?

 

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[Knives Amilli]

I think the Supes and Diana fight had to be written that way for the plot of the story
but I feel that strength and speed wise Clark would rip Diana limbs off
I'm pretty sure Clark could come up wit some kinda "super speed, heat vision, super strength blitz" and cripple Diana
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I remember the Shazaam Blitz.... I also remember Clark one both of those fights wit a tight hand over Billy's mouth

and I'm gonna assume that you're insinuating that becuz Marvel's strenght is magic based that means his punches counteract the aura around Supes body that give him his powers
so when Marvel hits Clark it probably hurts more than your regular superpowered punch
then I would have to agree
but fucc Cpt Marvel bitch ass, I'm ridin wit Big Blue

Now I never said Cpt. Marvel could beat Supes...He can just go toe to toe with him...

And you underestimating WW, brah. She's Asgardian level powerful. An Amazon (who are already quite durable) with the gods blessings=A fucking beast. BUt thing is that yeah Superman is godlevel and never really shown to go all out.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Aquaman beat Namor by tying him up and havin a damn orca land on him right?
we both know that aint enough to stop Namor and Namor would bludgeon Aquaman to death wit his barehands

ps. I'm not one of those people who thinks Aquaman jus talks to fish, I KNOW he will let a muthafucca have it, but he got his hands full wit Namor

and the whole Supes/Thor thing goes bacc to the reason why u said Diana would beat Supes
Thor is said to have fought countless battles and he as been alive for millions of years
Its obvious I fux wit Supes, but I think Thor might get luccy.... especially wit that magic Hammer'

I gotta say if Supes CAN beat Thor.... that means Cpt Marvel CAN NOT beat Supes

I personally think Diana is a more cunning warrior than Thor and she knows Kal, she'd know how to take him out....BUT i think ill concede that Supes probably would beat Diana though now when I really think about it.

And Aquaman only dropped an orca on Namor, Namor wasn't pinned down.

 

[Knives Amilli]

dam sentry crazy ass got some of rogues bayou pussy? when this happen?

and i thought magneto or joseph had hit already, po gambit.

I think Rogue has slept with Gambit by this time...its just that she apparently lost her virginity to the Sentry. It was revealed in his "Fallen Sun" one shot post death issue. Fans hated it.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Word. This is a throw to the pre crisis days when Lex and Clark did grow up together. The origin of Lex's hatred for Supes being, Lex caused a fire, Superboy came and put the fire out, causing Lex's hair to fall out. Weak ass story telling and plot devices, but hey it was the 50's. In the interest of full disclosure, Byrnes' interpretion of Supes was my first exposure to the character, ( do have ten issues of pre-crisis Supes, but that's not nearly enough to give you a feel for the character. So I'm bias towards, Byrnes, Ordway, Jurgens, and Wolfman. In my opinion, Byrnes diciption of the Supes/Lex relationship was better. Also can somebody answer this question. In Action, Lex has a Lois robot, somebody please tell me that Lex is not fucking the Lois robot.

Yea bro. The Man of Steel reboot is the only continuity I acknowledge. Fuck Birthright and Secret origin with their silver age pandering. I prefer the idea that Lex and Clark are two sides of the American Dream: Clark is an immigrant raised in farmland America to salt of the Earth folks instilling in him old school values. Lex is the self made man who had to tough it out in the big city, and despite being an arrogant douchebag, worked hard to be where he's at. I never understood the obsession with having to have your hero and villian be connected throughout their entire life.

Is Liefeld to comics, what Soulja Boy is to rap?

Rob actually had talent at one point. His work on the "Hawk and Dove" (written by Karl Kesel) miniseries of the early 90's was pretty good. He just got lazy. And he takes the criticism with grace. Soulja Boy would probably be a dick about it and try to wile out.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Why was YoungBloods hated so much?

Am I the only one that thinks Romulus is a bit cheesy?

Should I hang on to my Death of Superman collection? or use it as toilet paper?

Prime, are they ever bringing back Prime?

Seriously, how the fuck did Jackie (the darkness) not die after impregnating Sara (witchblade)

People hate youngblood just cuz it was apart of the 90's glut of X-Force/New Mutants ripoffs, and they were created by Rob Liefeld.

Yes Romulus sucked. Which is why no writers are acknowledging his existence.

Id hold on to it for sentimental value...but if your looking to cash out down the line, forget about it. They're largely worthless nowadays. It sold too well.

I doubt they'll bring back any of the Malibu characters. Marvel purchased the company and hasn't used a single character.

They didn't really say how Jackie got Sara pregnant without dying. Maybe just cuz of the natures of the Witchblade and Darkness.

 

[arbitration]

Has Lois Lane ever been portrayed as a gold-digger? I know it sounds absurd, but don't anyone find it ironic she used to be with Lex Luthor, and then got with Supes?

 

[jaxn]

nice thread, should be very informative for many

 

[jaxn]

here's a couple.. so im watchin Black Panther the other day.. and dude was gettin in Captain America's ass.. he's no alien so i wouldnt even try and pit him against Supes or someone else with magical powers..

but who u think would win out of BP and BatMan??

after watchin that short film i think i may have a new favorite super hero.. AND he's black..

I'd say Black Panther would win the majority, whether that would play out in comics is a different story..Think of T'challa as Batman, with more resources, who also has the physical attributes of Captain America..Cap is stronger than BP, but BP is faster..They're both >>> Batman

 

[jaxn]

BOOM! looks like i got a new favorite. lol

aiight.. my next one.. w/o Kryptonite.. who fuckin with Supes??

i think its kind of fucked up he the only one with a weakness but i digress..

Supes isn't the only one with a weakness, but there are many folks who can hang with Clark. Unfortunately in DC, he's #1 so its highly unlikely any hero will be shown greater than Superman, as mentioned, Captain Marvel and Black Adam are on par, as well as competent GLs like Hal and possibly Kyle depending on whether he's whining or not. Diana can in some instances and the Manhunter..in Marvel, guys like Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Adam Warlock..there are quite a few characters actually.

 

[jaxn]

Very.

His powerset is super strength, speed, enhanced sense (tho not as good as Superman's probably), flight, shape shifting, density manipulation (Can go intangible like a ghost or as dense as a planets core), invisibility, telepathy (probably the greatest telepath on Earth) and this heat visiion type of power called Martian Vision. He's a beast.

Right, MM is a beast and I believe Supes made this comment during the Burning Martian saga iirc..MM was beasting the entire league without his fire weakness.

 

[jaxn]

If you want to read more about him, I recommend Young Avengers. The bulk of the series is only 12 issues long (the series went on hiatus and never resumed its ongoing status and only 2 worthwhile miniseries have been released: Young Avengers Presents and Avengers: Children's Crusade) While its his grandson thats doing the superheroing, its pleasing seeing someone carry on Isaiah's legacy.

And as far as Xavier being crooked? Yeah its kind of a running joke among fandom that another skeleton falls out of his closet every year.

What it is I think writers wanted to show that many people with good intentions (particularly revolutionists and those promoting social change) have to make "for the greater good" type of decisions, even at the hinderence of living beings.

The three biggest revelations readers found about Xavier was:

1. There was a team of X-Men assembled BEFORE the All New X-Men. The all new x men was, prior to the Jim Lee era team (the era the 90's cartoon is loosely based off of), the most famous iteration of the team. The All News (assembled in '75) featured, for the first time, many fan favorites such as Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler and Wolverine (who had previously been a Hulk enemy).

For those who don't know, the All news were assembled to rescue Jean Grey, Iceman,Beast, Angel, Polaris, and Havok from a mutant island named Krakoa.

What we found out was that the team assembled before the All News had already been sent in to rescue the captured X-Men. And died trying. Xavier then mindwiped Cyclops (the only member who escaped the initial capturing and the only xman who knew of the slaughtered team) to spare him the pain of not only knowing that a team of xmen died to save him BUT that also one of those dead xmen was his brother, a guy named Vulcan (who'd come back to haunt the xmen in a big way). (this story was collected as X-Men: Deadly Genesis).

2. The other bit of news that surfaced was that after upgrading the danger room with advanced Sh'iar technology, it became sentient/self aware. Xavier (being a very powerful telepath and all) picked up on its initial thoughts, but decided to ignore it and further "subjugated" it as a training facility and just that, without ever telling anyone or acknowledging its sentience.

That was until it became self aware enough to fully turn on the X Men and manipulate them in freeing her (yes the danger room is a woman) from her central CPU. She's on the X-Men's side now tho. (all of this BTW can be found in the Astonishing X-Men: Danger trade paperback.

3. and finally Xavier was the mutant representative of a secret society (dubbed the Illuminati, no Hova) composed of the Marvel Universe's most powerful and influential men. (Reed Richards aka Mr. Fantastic=Smartest man on earth leader of the Fantastic Four, Tony Stark aka Iron Man=Billionaire genius industrialist and influential founding member of the Avengers, Black Bolt=king of the Inhumans, Dr. Stranger=Earth's Sorcerer Supreme: the absolute authority of Magic and Namor the Sub Mariner=king of Atlantis and king of the seas) who not only kept their existence secret from the rest of the heroes (except Black Panther who they initially offered membership but he declined on the reason that there shouldn't be anyone behind the scenes, manipulating people and events in their favor) but in being "proactive", ended up instigating the Hulk's attack on New York and the Skrull invasion.

and to add to this, he's also responsible for Onslaught

 

[jaxn]

oh and what is post crisis??

Pre-crisis is when the DC heroes were ridiculously powerful. The Crisis toned things down a bit