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Makaveli was a 2pac album you idiot and that was his best album.NevaChange;63903 said:
Bp1 isnt a classic. The camel only influence wack rappers like Lil Wayne
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Makaveli was a 2pac album you idiot and that was his best album.NevaChange;63903 said:Three classics?
2pac had two classics: Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me.
Carlos Bruise-Her;63883 said:Bp1 isnt a classic. It had a couple classic joints tho. Black Album was his best work
# Title Time Producers Additional Performers Samples And Notestexasboi409;63925 said:bp1 aint a classic?????????????? nigga is u ill and yes black album was a classic too
Carlos Bruise-Her;63920 said:Makaveli was a 2pac album you idiot and that was his best album.
Bp1 isnt a classic. The camel only influence wack rappers like Lil Wayne
isayas;63949 said:I could see why T/S like Jay so much, but he isn't top 15, to me.
Nigga the 7 day theory ended the camel's career before niggas even knew who he was. Shawn is lucky Pac was murderedNevaChange;63945 said:So The Seven Day Theory is a classic, but Blueprint 1 isn't?
Rofl...
Carlos Bruise-Her;63961 said:Nigga the 7 day theory ended the camel's career before niggas even knew who he was. Shawn is lucky Pac was murdered
NevaChange;63956 said:That's because you're in denial. The rest of America knows Hov is the greatest.
That's why he was voted the #1 rapper of all time in 2006.
isayas;63970 said:I don't give a damn about that, duke. I meant to say he's top 15.
NevaChange;63974 said:In your personal opinion Hov is top 15.
But the masses chose Hov as The God mc and voted him the greatest rapper of all time in 2006.
I only see this on this siteNevaChange;63968 said:You can call 7 Day Theory A classic if you want.
But all I know is Blueprint is a certified classic. The hip hop community agreed on this years ago.
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And this is really the nigga you all consider to be the best alive?
bigbadbossup99;62830 said:1st off I'm not ignorant at all. Feel free to look that definition up also. You haven't proved me wrong on anything so far. Which means my knowledge is intact. It's very clear to me that you don't know much at all. If you come in here saying pac moved to the west in 1995 and got tough when he signed with suge,you're showing me that you have been pre programmed to believe bullshit. You're showing me that you're nowhere near my level of knowledge on hiphop. Otherwise you wouldn't be that far off. A mistakes alright,but you're very very ignorant and most likely a lil kid.
As far as the majority saying pac wasn't he best till he died,I can't expect you to believe otherwise because you've already proven to be very ill informed when it comes to pac. I'm supposed to respect your opinion on 2pac's impact in life? You were off seven years about his west coast move and off about his thuglife antics. You're a well documented,proven,ignorant person. My definition of being lyrical in hiphop is the same as songs in general. Whoever comes across with their point in the most effective manner,while being creative,is what i personally think is lyrical. I think 2pac was the master at sprinkling his vast vocabulary,saying things in a different fashion,yet utilizing simplicity to make it more authentic. I believe he balanced his shit,and vocally delivered it better than anyone. We could argue all day about what the definition of lyrical,is or should be. But as you've already admitted 2pac's music was felt the most. Hence 2pac's songs were more convincing and effective to the listener. Which is the simple answer to why i think 2pac's the better rapper. Here's an opinion that even you will probaly agree with. 2pac,jay-z,nas,eminem,biggie etc are all masterful rappers, yet 2pac was felt the most and by a large margin. You have to ask yourself why. Why is jay virtually crying on "what more can i say"? He's upset cause he's not the undisputed goat.
As far as jay being on pac,he was. What type of nigga does that? I'm not saying he was supposed to hold a grudge,but damn, have some self respect.If he had enough pride to not hop on 2pac's album,he shouldn't have redid his song either.I could see just taking the beat and dissing him back,but he redid the whole song. And for the record,jay did respond to 2pac in a song called dead or alive.
As far as 2pac not being top 10 lyrical, you need to ask yourself why he was more felt than all of them. If 2pac figured out what was the most effective stance to write from and executed it,how's he not lyrical. What's the point in any artist leaning towards whatever your definition of lyrical is,when 2pac's angle was the most effective? And i'm not reffering to commercial success at all. His songs made the biggest impact. I don't think you understand that 2pac strategically chose to rap how he raps. He has an interview about how decided to have a more direct style. Being that he's been dead since age 25,after 5 years in the game,and gone for over 13 years and still the most felt, he was obviously right. You got forty yr old rappers who have commercially been in the game 14 years,highly successful for a dozen years and sill are not more felt than a 25 yr old 2pac who hasn't made any new music for over a dozen years.
Yes i do believe he made that "2 resting in heaven"
comment based on him thinking pac and big was that nice. Your theory is flawed,there's plenty of other "legends" he could have brought up.
As far as real songs,i never said jay had none, i said he couldn't fuck with 2pac and he can't. About half the songs you named,fell flat and were forced and ineffective. Lucky me,ballad of a fallen soldier,bitches and sisters and meet the parents are examples. I didn't say jay spat b.s because he used metaphors or wordplay. I said he leans too far in that direction which takes some depth out of his music. If i'm wrong about that, why is 2pac a "non lyrical" rapper felt more than he is?
As far as straight b.s jay songs: who you wit,sunshine,face off,ride or die,Jigga my nigga, hovi baby,can't knock the hustle remix etc.
As far as songs 2pac has spit on,virtually all of them. That's why i haven't ran down a list. If 2pac made the best songs,then he pretty much made the best albums,hence he's the best rapper ever.
You got the nerve to tell me what it takes to be the goat,yet 2pac is still the cocensus greatest rapper ever. Obviously it took what 2pac had.
Feel free to look up greatest rapper of all time,most results will have 2pac rightfully in front. Could keep going but it's getting late