The Jigga Man Shawn Carter aka JayZ Official Thread...

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daburgh1987;25655 said:
He can't.

When somebody says silly shit like that. Don't even entertain them with a response.

They like to say dumb shit on this site.

It's one thing to dislike an artist, it's quite another to try to strip them of their accomplishments.

It's one thing to disagree, it's quite another to come in here and say that ANY artists with more than 10 albums, only gets credit for 3 bodies of work while the other 7 are recited lyrics from a guy that has 2 albums.

yea i know i been realized theres a lot of ignorance on this site but still it never fails to amaze me cause to dislike is one thing but to hate somebody so much lls terrible
 
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makaveli4ever;28119 said:
I respect someone saying he is the goat. The op even provided some facts. But I still say Nas is the goat.

and i respect your opinion which is not a crazy one at that but could u tell me wut makes nas the greastest?
 
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Threads like this are always pointless because t/s is a Jay-Z stan and has already programmed in his mind that Jay-Z is GOAT and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.

So even if someone comes up with 50+ reasons as to why Nas is the superior, t/s will still disagree because in his mind, Jay is the greatest and what he says goes and anything else is just blasphemy.

Niggas are transparent as fuck.
 
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Dretox2010;28630 said:
He has a poor catalouge arguably no other Rapper has a catalouge as bad as his with wack Album's like

Volume 2

Volume 3

The Dynasty

Blueprint 2

Kingdom Come (one of the worst Album's ever made in the genre)

Blueprint 3

Only has one classic Album with Reasonable Doubt so that's one classic Album outta eleven made since 1996

Poor in terms of content very one dimensional the majority of his content and topics are based on hustling drug's and materalism

Not an elite Lyricist like others in term's of Story telling, content with message and Word play, Multi's, Metaphor's etc

Not a complete Song Writer as far as topic's and creativity

Uses other Artists Lyrics too much obviously everyone knows about how often he uses others Lyric's since we all seen the evidence

Relies too much on dope Producers and relies on other people featuring and doing the Hook's on his Song's

Hasn't even made one all time great Song that is amongst the best ever in history like Lose Yourself by Eminem, Juicy by Biggie, Changes by 2pac, Fuk The Police by NWA, New York State Of Mind by Nas, Gin & Juice by Snoop and so on

ok theres a lot of bull im not even going to entertain that you said but about the albums u say all those are wack but i can name atleast half the songs off all those albums that are official because im not sure wut makes a album wack to u but to mean it means it has like 1 or 2 or maybe 3 good songs which all those albums u named have and then some

Vol 2= hard knocklife, jigga what jigga who (im at work so gotta clean it up lls) money cash... a week ago, paper chase, its like that,

vol 3= hova song intro and outro, so ghetto, do it again (put your hands up) dope man, its hot,watch me, big pimpin, come and get me, NYMP,

Dynasty= intro, I just wanna love u, Streets is talkin, this can't be life, get your mind right, 1-900 hustler, soon you'll understand, where have you been

blueprint 2= a dream, hovi baby, watcher 2, excuse miss, the bounce, bonnie and clyde, diamond is forever, some people hate, u dont know remix, meet the parents, some how some way, blueprint 2, b's and sisters a ballad of a fallen soldier,

kingdom come= the Prelude, kingdom come, lost one, do you wanna ride, 30 something, trouble, dig a hole, minority report, beach chair

blueprint 3= what we talkin bout, thank you, d.o.a, run this town, empire state of mind, real as it gets, venus vs mars, already home, so ambitious

all those songs from those albums i named im sure are on youtube so check'em out just incase u need 2 refresh your memory or never even heard the song
 
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Question Authority;29947 said:
Threads like this are always pointless because t/s is a Jay-Z stan and has already programmed in his mind that Jay-Z is GOAT and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.

So even if someone comes up with 50+ reasons as to why Nas is the superior, t/s will still disagree because in his mind, Jay is the greatest and what he says goes and anything else is just blasphemy.

Niggas are transparent as fuck.

do u know me i can answer that of course u don't so how can u sit up here and tell me about me be my guest and give 50 reasons y nas is the goat and exactly wut makes me a stan because if im a stan of jay then u must be a stan of nas
 
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innercity99;29857 said:
yea i know i been realized theres a lot of ignorance on this site but still it never fails to amaze me cause to dislike is one thing but to hate somebody so much lls terrible

Yup.
I did get at you earlier in the thread because this thread and similar threads are on this site way too much.
I did however fail to say that Jay is my favorite rapper.
Really wasn't necessary one way or another. I don't argue with other people about who is the goat and all that unless it's Gucci or something.
 
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daburgh1987;30001 said:
Yup.

I did get at you earlier in the thread because this thread and similar threads are on this site way too much.

I did however fail to say that Jay is my favorite rapper.

Really wasn't necessary one way or another. I don't argue with other people about who is the goat and all that unless it's Gucci or something.

c/s about the gucci thing lls that would just be reachin but if somebody made a thread about lets say wayne and i like some of wayne music im not a fan though i wouldnt come into there thread haten sayin wut are u seriously maken a thread about that id say y and then id dispute there arguement with my own and we can go back n forth or wutever
 
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rip.dilla;30044 said:
Most prominent and commercial... yeah, but GOAT??? No fcuking chance...

people trip me out who make comments like these... u mind sayin who is then? and give a reason y of course
 
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innercity99;30062 said:
people trip me out who make comments like these... u mind sayin who is then? and give a reason y of course

Jay Z is not the GOAT and you know it... I'll give that title to Tupac Shakur...
 
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rip.dilla;30075 said:
Jay Z is not the GOAT and you know it... I'll give that title to Tupac Shakur...

i actually don't know it sorry lls and like i said dont just say pac tell me y tell me wut makes pac the goat and not just cause he's your favorite rapper
 
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innercity99;30086 said:
i actually don't know it sorry lls and like i said dont just say pac tell me y tell me wut makes pac the goat and not just cause he's your favorite rapper

Cos he's the Bob Marley of this shit...
 
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Pac will trounce Jigga in any goddam poll put out... That nigga (Pac) put his ENTIRE BEING into his music... for good or bad

Jay on the other hand only put his SOUL into one project... Reasonable Doubt... just listened to it the other day (high) and is Jigga's only classic... IMO
 
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innercity99;29982 said:
do u know me i can answer that of course u don't so how can u sit up here and tell me about me be my guest and give 50 reasons y nas is the goat and exactly wut makes me a stan because if im a stan of jay then u must be a stan of nas

Threads like this get made all the time, sir.

You give your reasons as to why you think Jay-Z is the G.O.A.T. and try to pass them off as "factual" when, in reality, they're nothing but your personal perceptions.

Then niggas fall for the bait, give their reasons as to why Jay is not the greatest and why (insert artist here) is better.

Then you respond with some bullshit as to why that person is wrong and why Jay-Z is still the greatest and is better than (insert artist here).

Then it turns into a pointless back and forth, "you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong."

It's cool you like Jay-Z, t/s...but dick eatin' is never a good look.
 
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Question Authority;30195 said:
Threads like this get made all the time, sir.

You give your reasons as to why you think Jay-Z is the G.O.A.T. and try to pass them off as "factual" when, in reality, they're nothing but your personal perceptions.

Then niggas fall for the bait, give their reasons as to why Jay is not the greatest and why (insert artist here) is better.

Then you respond with some bullshit as to why that person is wrong and why Jay-Z is still the greatest and is better than (insert artist here).

Then it turns into a pointless back and forth, "you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong."

It's cool you like Jay-Z, t/s...but dick eatin' is never a good look.

Right On, nigga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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rip.dilla;30171 said:
Pac will trounce Jigga in any goddam poll put out... That nigga (Pac) put his ENTIRE BEING into his music... for good or bad

Jay on the other hand only put his SOUL into one project... Reasonable Doubt... just listened to it the other day (high) and is Jigga's only classic... IMO

ok u still havent explained how pac is the greatest u talkin bout a poll r u serious? wut is that "anybody" can vote on a poll so thats not credible and u sayin pac put everything into his music thats still only one aspect of it... in "my opinion" (gotta quotate that cause people are getting emotional over here lls) u cant be the goat just bein one of the nicest cause canibus would be in the arguement or one of the hottest cause 50 would be in the arguement u gotta bring more then just 1 or 2 things to the game and with that being said pac was great at wut he did dont get me wrong he made a lot of inspirational songs made some bangers, made some street songs but mostly everyone can agree that pac wasnt really an mc he was more of a poet he was a great rapper once again in my opinion but far from a grear mc now be my guess by throwing some songs out there that pac went hard on and was actually spittin lyrical

and as far as jay only haven 1 classic album is ur opinion but if thats the case how many have pac had?
 
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Question Authority;30195 said:
Threads like this get made all the time, sir.

You give your reasons as to why you think Jay-Z is the G.O.A.T. and try to pass them off as "factual" when, in reality, they're nothing but your personal perceptions.

Then niggas fall for the bait, give their reasons as to why Jay is not the greatest and why (insert artist here) is better.

Then you respond with some bullshit as to why that person is wrong and why Jay-Z is still the greatest and is better than (insert artist here).

Then it turns into a pointless back and forth, "you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong. no, you're wrong."

It's cool you like Jay-Z, t/s...but dick eatin' is never a good look.

Lls niggas like u are funny u say u come into the thread like u supposed 2 makin some big point or like u real smart or something but u are clearly misguided 1st off u sayin threads like these get made all the time and wuts ur point and they'll continue 2 get made its a damn discussion board nigga u goin see repeat topics all the time y cause people have there own opinions and u breakin down the thread like u actualike wow u really did something like I said that is how most threads work and u say a person say y and me bein so stuck on jay I'm not goin listen how do u know when no one has even given a reason a ligitimate one atleast besides jay not the best or nah its nas or pac and u did the same thing post ur comment not talkin bout shit at all if u feel so strongly about these kind of threads make ur own and get it off ur chest nigga lls and tell me how I'm on jay's dick point out the part of the thread that made u say damn this nigga on jay heavy I justjust gotta comment lls
 
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innercity99;30419 said:
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Lls niggas like u are funny u say u come into the thread like u supposed 2 makin some big point or like u real smart or something but u are clearly misguided 1st off u sayin threads like these get made all the time and wuts ur point and they'll continue 2 get made its a damn discussion board nigga u goin see repeat topics all the time y cause people have there own opinions and u breakin down the thread like u actualike wow u really did something like I said that is how most threads work and u say a person say y and me bein so stuck on jay I'm not goin listen how do u know when no one has even given a reason a ligitimate one atleast besides jay not the best or nah its nas or pac and u did the same thing post ur comment not talkin bout shit at all if u feel so strongly about these kind of threads make ur own and get it off ur chest nigga lls and tell me how I'm on jay's dick point out the part of the thread that made u say damn this nigga on jay heavy I justjust gotta comment lls

Niggas probably haven't given a legitimate reason because they understand the tactic and refuse to fall for the bait. That's all I'm sayin'.

And you say "most will agree that Pac wasn't an MC"...well, what exactly is your definition of an MC?
 
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Question Authority;30446 said:
Niggas probably haven't given a legitimate reason because they understand the tactic and refuse to fall for the bait. That's all I'm sayin'.

And you say "most will agree that Pac wasn't an MC"...well, what exactly is your definition of an MC?

dude im a grown man wit 2 jobs and a girl wut i look like comin on here just to get people to talk 2 me lls where they do that at?

and u say people dont wanna give a reason cause they dont wanna fall 4 my tactics and im stuck in my ways ok thats not the point of commenting on the boards cause im sure 95% of the people on these boards are "stuck in there ways" so me knowing that i still made this thread not to make them think like me but just to enlighten them thats all dude its all fun people gettin upset like i disrespected them for makin this thread or like im reachin i can see if i said gucci or wayne was the greatest lls me sayin jay i believe is not far-fetched i feel i made some points whether or not its tru or not is a another story but that is y we are here "discussion boards"

now as far as mc goes 2 me a mc is someone that is lyrical that has flow has punchlines has wordplay has metaphors double entendre's etc...

wuts ur definition?
 
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