The J.Cole hate is the weirdest shit I can recall...WTF??

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t. webb;2881346 said:
Riiight and soon as he throws an R&B singer on a song yall going criticize that....

Yall niggas are the worst...he could do everything you listed above and you'd fuck around and complain, "It took him too long to do it." FOH.....

nigga i aint talkin about corny r&b ballads with one feature verse

i'm talkin how niggas use to do shit, they'd get a session singer in and get him or her to lay down a hook, most of yall wudnt even know the name of the singer,

for example val young did pacs Live and Die In LA, did u see her all in the video?

the bitch from total who sang on Juicy did u see her in the video?

having a singer doesnt mean a song has to be corny r&b.....u coming off as a dumb ass nigga forreal
 
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My problem with J Cole is his Music is way too boring/generic/bland and lacks any replay value

There isn't a J Cole Song i can play all the way through and enjoy

I think his Production is unbearable to listen to and only Nas has worst Production than him

I don't find his Content/Subject Matter interesting

I think his Hooks are very weak too
 
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StillDreaming;2881358 said:
Well J Cole is a RARE case indeed.

The hate he recieves comes from a combination of unwarranted praise for very average musical ability, his affiliation with Jigga, and his quiet somewhat introverted type personality.

IMO J Cole wants the rap crown without the hustle and hardwork it requires to attain it. He's gonna own the Summer with Work Out?? He's gonna save hip-hop but he gets eaten alive by Wale and Meek on Fitted Caps??

The way I look at it J Cole is an underground artist trying to perpetrate as a mainstream one. Expect the hate to grow stronger as his underground fans begin to turn on him as he tries harder and harder to attain that mainstream audience. I personally wish him the best but I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see what's wrong with his situation.

He's no where near as talented as Nas, he doesn't have the charisma of Big KRIT, Wale, Meek, Drake, or even Big Sean. I mean honestly I have no idea where he even fits into the hiphop landscape. What Cole needs to do is humble himself and stop trying to be "hiphops saviour" and just put out music. He's trying way too hard and its starting to show.

I don't agree with you at all.....
 
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Bigavelli;2881377 said:
My problem with J Cole is his Music is way too boring/generic/bland and lacks any replay value

There isn't a J Cole Song i can play all the way through and enjoy

I think his Production is unbearable to listen to

I don't find his Content/Subject Matter interesting

I think his Hooks are very weak too

I feel the same way about Eminem
 
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thesynthesis;2881374 said:
nigga i aint talkin about corny r&b ballads with one feature verse

i'm talkin how niggas use to do shit, they'd get a session singer in and get him or her to lay down a hook, most of yall wudnt even know the name of the singer,

for example val young did pacs Live and Die In LA, did u see her all in the video?

the bitch from total who sang on Juicy did u see her in the video?

having a singer doesnt mean a song has to be corny r&b.....u coming off as a dumb ass nigga forreal

Where did I imply that having an R&B singer would mean it's corny R&B...you coming off as a dumb ass nigga.....all I said is that he could do everything you listed above and yall niggas would still complain....
 
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t. webb;2881338 said:
Bruh.....you trying to hard and to stop listening to an artist because he didn't live up to your expectations is the stupidest shit in the world but to each its own....

Yeah either that or he doesnt listen
 
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Best new Rapper i heard in the past 5 years is Nipsey Hussle his Bullets Ain't Got A Name Mixtape Series is better than 90% of Albums released in the past few years

He's good Lyrically, makes entertaining Music, has great Production, decent at Hook's, good Flow, Street Content, has charisma

What more can you ask for?

Yet i very rarley see anyone talk about him on the IC but J Cole fans on here stay talking about a Rapper the majority of the public do not care about or are interested in
 
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StillDreaming;2881358 said:
Well J Cole is a RARE case indeed.

The hate he recieves comes from a combination of unwarranted praise for very average musical ability, his affiliation with Jigga, and his quiet somewhat introverted type personality.

IMO J Cole wants the rap crown without the hustle and hardwork it requires to attain it. He's gonna own the Summer with Work Out?? He's gonna save hip-hop but he gets eaten alive by Wale and Meek on Fitted Caps??

The way I look at it J Cole is an underground artist trying to perpetrate as a mainstream one. Expect the hate to grow stronger as his underground fans begin to turn on him as he tries harder and harder to attain that mainstream audience. I personally wish him the best but I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see what's wrong with his situation.

He's no where near as talented as Nas, he doesn't have the charisma of Big KRIT, Wale, Meek, Drake, or even Big Sean. I mean honestly I have no idea where he even fits into the hiphop landscape. What Cole needs to do is humble himself and stop trying to be "hiphops saviour" and just put out music. He's trying way too hard and its starting to show.

real shit right here
 
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BackInWhite;2881320 said:
he ain't wack or no shit like that
but niggas be talkin bout, "i think he can go gold"
"cole will be around much longer than drake or any of these other cookie cutter rappers"
"cole has substance, something the game is lacking"
and then he drop shit like workout
every song he sound like he tryin too hard

he on that fabolous shit
goin all out of his way to be clever and witty
again, he's not wack at all but he ain't nowhere near as nice as his fans make him out to be

StillDreaming;2881358 said:
Well J Cole is a RARE case indeed.

The hate he recieves comes from a combination of unwarranted praise for very average musical ability, his affiliation with Jigga, and his quiet somewhat introverted type personality.

IMO J Cole wants the rap crown without the hustle and hardwork it requires to attain it. He's gonna own the Summer with Work Out?? He's gonna save hip-hop but he gets eaten alive by Wale and Meek on Fitted Caps??

The way I look at it J Cole is an underground artist trying to perpetrate as a mainstream one. Expect the hate to grow stronger as his underground fans begin to turn on him as he tries harder and harder to attain that mainstream audience. I personally wish him the best but I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see what's wrong with his situation.

He's no where near as talented as Nas, he doesn't have the charisma of Big KRIT, Wale, Meek, Drake, or even Big Sean. I mean honestly I have no idea where he even fits into the hiphop landscape. What Cole needs to do is humble himself and stop trying to be "hiphops saviour" and just put out music. He's trying way too hard and its starting to show.

Bigavelli;2881377 said:
My problem with J Cole is his Music is way too boring/generic/bland and lacks any replay value

I think his Production is unbearable to listen to

I don't find his Content/Subject Matter interesting

I think his Hooks are very weak too

C/S 100%.

DMTxCannabis;2881382 said:
I feel the same way about Eminem

Keep it real, Em > Cole.
 
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Bigavelli;2881398 said:
Best new Rapper i heard in the past 5 years is Nipsey Hussle his Bullets Ain't Got A Name Mixtape Series is better than 90% of Albums released in the past few years

He's good Lyrically, makes entertaining Music, has great Production, decent at Hook's, good Flow, Street Content, has charisma

What more can you ask for?

Yet i very rarley see anyone talk about him on the IC but J Cole fans on here stay talking about a Rapper the majority of the public do not care about or are interested in

Kendrick Lamar >> Snoop Dogg clone.....and honestly....if you really look at it. The people that don't like J. Cole bring him up more on here than the people that do....
 
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t. webb;2881386 said:
Where did I imply that having an R&B singer would mean it's corny R&B...you coming off as a dumb ass nigga.....all I said is that he could do everything you listed above and yall niggas would still complain....

nigga stfu

if the nigga was making dope ass classic music, aint noway niggas wud deny him whats his

it's like rozay puttin down heat, even after all the hate he got for the CO shit, type of shit cud end ur career, however ross came with it musically, bomb ass beats, great hooks, dope lyrics, good features, smooth videos...

if a nigga singing the same damn out of tune hook on every song he makes, it gets on a niggas nerves....he sings the same hook on the same note and in the same way on every song, what harm will a singer who can sing actually do, but make the hook sound more better ?
 
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Maybe im missing something what kinda subject matter do yall wanna hear if you dont like coles subject matter?
 
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t. webb;2881380 said:
I don't agree with you at all.....

So.........

You think J Cole had a good verse on Fitted Caps???

You think Workout will own the summer???

You honestly think J Cole is equal in charisma to Drake???

Really nigga?
 
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I don't wanna keep repeating this but there is a huge difference between the IC and the real world

On the IC you would swear Max B aweful no 1 cares about him

But where i live i honestly in all my life haven't seen people bump any other Rappers Music as much as Max B black folk, white folk, dudes, females etc

But the IC treats Max like he some devil SMH
 
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StillDreaming;2881418 said:
So.........

You think J Cole had a good verse on Fitted Caps???

You think Workout will own the summer???

You honestly think J Cole is equal in charisma to Drake???

Really nigga?

Never heard fitted caps but name a rapper that hasn't been ate by someone featured on a track?

Workout is meh....not great but not bad....owning the summer? I'd be surprised if it did....

And who the fuck cares about Charisma...."Man dude is dope as hell. Lyrically: oustanding. Storytelling: Amazing But bruh his charisma...is lacking....so he wack...."

What kinda shit is that....
 
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TB.Boy;2881417 said:
Maybe im missing something what kinda subject matter do yall wanna hear if you dont like coles subject matter?

Don't even ask that question bruh. They tried to get at me for my subject mater, but let me talk about how many bricks I'm moving or how many bodies I got hey'd be calling me false like Ross. These dudes are idiots
 
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t. webb;2881410 said:
Kendrick Lamar >> Snoop Dogg clone.....and honestly....if you really look at it. The people that don't like J. Cole bring him up more on here than the people that do....

You are entitled to your view

Nipsey is way better than Snoop ever was

Lyrically a million times better

I just can't listen to J Cole there is not 1 Song J Cole has that entertains me or makes me think i gotta play that again he is 1 of the most boring Rappers i ever heard
 
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u can have the dopest lyrics, and be a fire ass rapper, but if the SONGS aint coming off right then shit will be labeled wack

when i say songs i mean the entire package, the beat, the mix, the hooks, the intro, outro, adlibs, lyrics etc...

it's like nas is a great lyricist who came with some fire on Street Disciple, but everything else on the album was a let down....

Cole is having the same problem, he has the lyrics, the flow, but many elements are still missing..theres more to a song than a hot verse
 
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