The J.Cole hate is the weirdest shit I can recall...WTF??

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thesynthesis;2880936 said:
i think his talent alone will have everyone interested in him

one cant deny his talent, it would only been a matter of time till he was signed, it was the same with drake

the only difference between the two is, one if being pushed heavily with the help of mainstream rappers

if j cole's debut does flop, i'm guessing rocnation will drop him, however if jayz were to collab with him, push a video out and the song was fire, he'd be the most talked about rapper since drake




I still wish that they shot a video for "A Star Is Born". That would've been a perfect way to introduce Cole to the world. Kinda like how Kanye's song "Touch the Sky" introduced the world to Lupe.
 
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DayDay34;2880479 said:
because he's trash. lol at niggas comparing him to nas. boring ass nigga.

you name the prototype for boring rappers and then call cole boring

s/n- cole constantly putting out new shit for ppl. What does it matter when the album comes out if he still giving you new shit
 
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idoitforhiphop10;2880966 said:
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I still wish that they shot a video for "A Star Is Born". That would've been a perfect way to introduce Cole to the world. Kinda like how Kanye's song "Touch the Sky" introduced the world to Lupe.

yup same way pac was introduced by shock g/digital underground

jayz by biggy

em by dre

drake by the likes of kanye, em, and wayne

50 by em and dre

game by 50

some rappers just need that extra co sign, which can do wonders for there careers
 
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TB.Boy;2879897 said:
What do you mean his pen game is weak bro? You dont like his word play? his subject matter?

Nope, none of it. His word play is basic, and his subject matter is very regular. All he raps about is basic shit like playing basketball, and getting girls in a basic rhyme scheme. His production is bland, and he's taking forever to release a debut album. He's doo doo.

Like I said earlier, the people out now rap way better than Cole.

DayDay34;2880479 said:
because he's trash. lol at niggas comparing him to nas. boring ass nigga.

Cosign this. The first time I heard of Cole, people were comparing him to Nas. I gave him a listen, and I was like WTF?!?! Are niggas serious?

How the fuck is this Drake clone with worse punchlines the next Nas? After that, I couldn't fuck with him anymore.

It was already in my mind that this dude was suppose to be Nas level or around Nas level, and he turns out to be the total opposite. The hype hurt his career big time.

I can only imagine how Nas was feeling, when they compared this wackass amateur rapper to himself. He had to feel the ultimate disrespect.
 
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NothingButTheTruth;2881292 said:
Word? So Cole is the next Nas. Post some music of his that supports your opinion.

You called him a Drake clone, said all he raps about is basketball and getting girls in a basic rhyme scheme...blatant lies
[video=youtube;jrJKMUveNAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJKMUveNAI&feature=related[/video]

And as far as the Nas comparisons, skip to 0:50
[video=youtube;I7VWbBvBev4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7VWbBvBev4[/video]
 
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NothingButTheTruth;2881292 said:
Word? So Cole is the next Nas? Post some music of his to support your opinion.

Nahhhh, Cole got a higher ceiling. Stop selling him so short !
 
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he ain't wack or no shit like that
but niggas be talkin bout, "i think he can go gold"
"cole will be around much longer than drake or any of these other cookie cutter rappers"
"cole has substance, something the game is lacking"
and then he drop shit like workout
every song he sound like he tryin too hard
he on that fabolous shit
goin all out of his way to be clever and witty
again, he's not wack at all but he ain't nowhere near as nice as his fans make him out to be
 
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NothingButTheTruth;2881251 said:
Nope, none of it. His word play is basic, and his subject matter is very regular. All he raps about is basic shit like playing basketball, and getting girls in a basic rhyme scheme. His production is bland, and he's taking forever to release a debut album. He's doo doo.

Like I said earlier, the people out now rap way better than Cole.

Yeah i agree with the production its improving tho the warm up to friday night lights is a big improvement.... But in terms of subject matter i disagree
[video=youtube;ofXKwpiVqc4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXKwpiVqc4[/video]Lost Ones
[video=youtube;D6WThN_5GQs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6WThN_5GQs[/video]Losing My Balance
[video=youtube;hlu2Uab34yU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlu2Uab34yU&feature=related[/video]2Face
I can go on and onnn... etc

In terms of rhymeschemes
[video=youtube;giOn1xTUC7w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giOn1xTUC7w[/video]Dead Presidents 2
 
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BackInWhite;2881320 said:
he ain't wack or no shit like that
but niggas be talkin bout, "i think he can go gold"
"cole will be around much longer than drake or any of these other cookie cutter rappers"
"cole has substance, something the game is lacking"
and then he drop shit like workout
every song he sound like he tryin too hard
he on that fabolous shit
goin all out of his way to be clever and witty
again, he's not wack at all but he ain't nowhere near as nice as his fans make him out to be

Work Out was quite disappointing, lol
 
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NothingButTheTruth;2881251 said:
Nope, none of it. His word play is basic, and his subject matter is very regular. All he raps about is basic shit like playing basketball, and getting girls in a basic rhyme scheme. His production is bland, and he's taking forever to release a debut album. He's doo doo.

Like I said earlier, the people out now rap way better than Cole.

Cosign this. The first time I heard of Cole, people were comparing him to Nas. I gave him a listen, and I was like WTF?!?! Are niggas serious?

How the fuck is this Drake clone with worse punchlines the next Nas? After that, I couldn't fuck with him anymore.

It was already in my mind that this dude was suppose to be Nas level or around Nas level, and he turns out to be the total opposite. The hype hurt his career big time.

I can only imagine how Nas was feeling, when they compared this wackass amateur rapper to himself. He had to feel the ultimate disrespect.

Bruh.....you trying to hard and to stop listening to an artist because he didn't live up to your expectations is the stupidest shit in the world but to each its own....
 
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Cole is trying to hard to be the don makaveli, but he doesnt have the style to back it up

i see him throwing that "heyyyyyyyy" which pac use to do in every damn song

i know he a stan, but cole need to firstly stop trying to do all his hooks like he making the makaveli 7 days album, some niggas got a knack for hooks and others don't

get some damn singers or throw in some scratching like biggy use to do

nigga trying to do far too much, also get some outside producers, same damn african lion king drums on every beat,

jayz shud slap this nigga and put him on the right direction
 
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lol that's an insult to nas. j.cole don't be saying shit. always skip his verse on the self made album. he don't stand out at all.
 
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thesynthesis;2881339 said:
Cole is trying to hard to be the don makaveli, but he doesnt have the style to back it up

i see him throwing that "heyyyyyyyy" which pac use to do in every damn song

i know he a stan, but cole need to firstly stop trying to do all his hooks like he making the makaveli 7 days album, some niggas got a knack for hooks and others don't

get some damns singers or throw in some scratching like biggy use to do

nigga trying to do far too much, also get some outside producers, same damn african lion king drums on every beat,

jayz shud slap this nigga and out him on the right direction

Riiight and soon as he throws an R&B singer on a song yall going criticize that....

Yall niggas are the worst...he could do everything you listed above and you'd fuck around and complain, "It took him too long to do it." FOH.....
 
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wordsRweapons;2879817 said:
Hell no its not. Every nigga should go get a college degree. J Cole doesnt glorify his college degree. He hides it. That is wrong.

wordsRweapons;2879845 said:
What does he have his bachelors in?

Do you niggas listen to music or just skim through it? He highly publicized that he went to St. Johns University, my boroughs univerisity, along with Grafh.

And he graduated magna cum laude

http://theurbandaily.com/gossip-news/the-urban-daily-staff/j-cole-graduated-college-magna-cum-laude/
 
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DMTxCannabis;2881309 said:
You called him a Drake clone, said all he raps about is basketball and getting girls in a basic rhyme scheme...blatant lies

[video=youtube;jrJKMUveNAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJKMUveNAI&feature=related[/video]

And as far as the Nas comparisons, skip to 0:50

[video=youtube;I7VWbBvBev4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7VWbBvBev4[/video]

good drop, Cole is nice. I understand He's not for everyone and that's cool, but say straight up that he sucks is just wrong. If you don't like a certain artist speak on it then move on. No need to come in every thread about that artist and state over and over how much you do like him how he is garbage, blah blah blah. His real fans don't care.
 
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H-Rap 180;2879434 said:
Some rappers get hated because they are disgusting humans that beat women, make racist-tapes, blackball other artists and other foul ish.

I seen rappers get hated because they make pop-rap, Techno-hop, or corny chick music, or people say they sold out.

I have even seen rappers hated because they are arrogant, pompous, and flamboyant in their behavior.

Thats all understandable because success breeds envy and envy breeds hatred....but seriously J.Cole??

Why the hatred for an awkward, educated mulatto from the South who does nothing but smile all jolly and make friends??

Can someone explain??

Well J Cole is a RARE case indeed.

The hate he recieves comes from a combination of unwarranted praise for very average musical ability, his affiliation with Jigga, and his quiet somewhat introverted type personality.

IMO J Cole wants the rap crown without the hustle and hardwork it requires to attain it. He's gonna own the Summer with Work Out?? He's gonna save hip-hop but he gets eaten alive by Wale and Meek on Fitted Caps??

The way I look at it J Cole is an underground artist trying to perpetrate as a mainstream one. Expect the hate to grow stronger as his underground fans begin to turn on him as he tries harder and harder to attain that mainstream audience. I personally wish him the best but I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see what's wrong with his situation.

He's no where near as talented as Nas, he doesn't have the charisma of Big KRIT, Wale, Meek, Drake, or even Big Sean. I mean honestly I have no idea where he even fits into the hiphop landscape. What Cole needs to do is humble himself and stop trying to be "hiphops saviour" and just put out music. He's trying way too hard and its starting to show.
 
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