THE INCREDIBLE HULK (NUFF SAID)

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NUTRIENT BATH NULK

It's difficult to call this version of the Hulk an incarnation since none of the usual rules apply. This is truly a 'mindless' Hulk. Banner is not just submerged, but removed entirely. Doc Samson devised a way to remove all the cells that were exclusively Banner from the collective Banner/Hulk body. The result was an animalistic Hulk that still reacted with violence first.

Like the Mindless Hulk this Hulk seemed to access his strength increase easily, however as this Hulk was incomplete genetically it had a definite cap to it's strength. In fact it was found that the Hulk actually began to grow weaker as the molecules in his body began to dissipate since they were not held together in conjunction with Bruce Banner's cells.

This Hulk represents nothing except maybe that if science has the technology to do something it shouldn't necessarily do it.

Limitations: Well besides the obvious disadvantage of dispersing his cells further and further apart until they weaken and eventually begin to kill Hulk. This Hulk, like the Mindless Hulk is very stupid. This Hulk is even more stupid as the Mindless Hulk could at least learn. This Hulk if not engaged in battle would simply wander away to destroy something else.

Appearances: Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #315-323

Marvel Fanfare #29

Secret Wars II #8, 9

 

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THUNDERBOLT ROSS

General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross, the man who would become the most frequent nemesis of the superhuman monster known as the incredible Hulk, was born into a family with a proud tradition of military service. Ross's grandfather served heroically under General Sherman in the Union army during the Civil War; Ross's father became a general while fighting in the Argonne during World War I. As a boy Thaddeus Ross immersed himself in the study of military history. Later he learned how to fly by barnstorming at county fairs.

Thunderbolt Ross in human form.

As a young man, Ross graduated first in his class at West Point. He married Karen Lee, the daughter of the captain who was his commanding officer at the time.

Ross rapidly rose in rank and was a captain when he went to fight World War II in the Pacific theater of operations. It was during the war that Ross made his great reputation as a leader in combat. His troops during the war in the Pacific gave him the nickname "Thunderbolt," since, they said he "struck like a thunderbolt" when leading them into action. Ross also served for a time in Europe during World War II and was present at the liberation of the prisoners of the infamous concentration camp at Auschwitz. By the end of World War II, Ross had become a major.

Between World War II and the Korean War, Ross was stationed at the nuclear research facility at Los Alamos, New Mexico. It was here that he met nuclear physicist Brian Banner, the father of Robert Bruce Banner, with whom Ross would work years later.

Ross had risen to the rank of colonel by the time he was sent to fight in the Korean War. It was during Korea that Ross finally became a brigadier general in the U.S. Air Force.

"Thunderbolt" Ross gloried in combat, so he was dissatisfied with the "desk jobs" he was given before and after the Korean War. He eventually came to hold the rank of lieutenant general.

Ross's wife, Karen, bore him only one child, his daughter Elizabeth "Betty" Ross. Karen Ross died when Betty was in her early teens. General Ross, now in command of Desert Base, New Mexico, a missile base and nuclear research site, believed that it was not the right place to raise a young girl and sent her off to boarding school. After completing her education, Betty, devoted to her sole surviving parent, returned to Desert Base to live near her father.

Bruce Banner, a genius in nuclear physics, was sent by the United States government to Desert Base to oversee construction and test his invention, the Gamma Bomb, a nuclear weapon that produced a high gamma radiation output.

General Ross resented the fact that Banner, a civilian, was supervisor of the project. Moreover, the general had contempt for the unathletic, intellectual Banner for failing to live up to Ross's own vision of true manhood. Making matters worse for Ross was the growing attraction developing between Banner and Betty, whom he hoped would marry a military officer.

During the initial test of the Gamma Bomb, Banner was exposed to intense, massive gamma radiation, which, due to an unknown genetic factor in his body did not kill him, but instead caused him to transform sporadically into the superhumanly strong monster known as the Hulk[1]. Although the details varied over the years, the Hulk usually possessed little of Banner's memories and intelligence, and was easily enraged. Hence, the Hulk was considered a menace, and Ross began his long career of hunting the Hulk.

At first, Banner managed to keep secret the fact that he was the Hulk; his sole confidante was his young friend Rick Jones. Indeed, since the Hulk looked radically different from Banner, there was no reason for anyone to suspect that Banner physically transformed into the Hulk. However, Banner's mysterious disappearances and reappearances under strange circumstances, all due to his recurring transformations, led Ross to suspect Banner of treasonous activities and of a possible alliance with the Hulk itself. To prove his suspicions about Banner, Ross brought Major Glenn Talbot to Desert Base as its new security chief. Talbot soon took an intense dislike to Banner as well, and shared Ross' suspicions of him. Talbot also became attracted to Betty Ross, and the general hoped that she would shift her affections from Banner to the major[2]. The Pentagon designated Ross as head of "Operation Hulk," the project to find, kill, or capture the powerful menace.

Eventually, wrongly convinced that the Hulk was dead, Rick Jones revealed to Talbot and to Betty Ross that Bruce Banner was the Hulk. Shortly afterwards, Betty and Talbot witnessed Banner's transformation, and Ross and the general populace learned of Banner's dual identity.

 

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BANNER HULK

Height: 7' 0"

Weight: 1,040 lbs.

Intelligence: Genius

Strength: Superhuman Strength Class 75 (with potential for Superhuman Strength Class 100)

Special limitations: Generally speaking the Hulk is powered by rage and fury. The emotionally repressed mind of Bruce Banner, for the most part, was incapable to developing or expressing the rage needed to feul the anger that accelerated the Hulk's strength. Banner was also too calculated and in situations where the Savage Hulk would have just barrelled on without thought Banner would hesitate in his actions.

In the early years of the Hulk every once in a while the "miracle" of control over the Hulk's body with the mind of Bruce Banner would occur. Generally speaking these occurences would end without any explanation. Hulk would simply revert to his Gravage persona. Bruce would always lose control, probably due to his issues with rage and violence brought on by the abuse and ravings of his father. In order to avoid being like Brian Banner, Bruce most likely just gave up control of the intelligent control.

It was a bizarre turn of events that lead to Bruce Banner's longest run of intellect controling the Hulk's body. The Hulk was returning from the dimesion of Rocket Racoon, a rare treat in and of itself, when his body was altered. Bruce soon found that he could control the transformations and retain control. Mentally however Bruce was not ready to unleash the monster within himself, and almost immediately doubts arose about whether Bruce could keep the monster persona in control. Things were not helped by Nightmare who tormented Bruce into what is now known as the Mindless Hulk.

Appearances: Incredible Hulk #4, 123, 124, 140, 156, 248, 272-296, annual 12

Defenders #122-125

Fantastic Four #266-268

Marvel Fanfare #47

Secret Wars #1-12

 

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World War Hulk vs General Ross and a U.S. Army force

 

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WENDIGO

Several people have been afflicted with the curse of the Wendigo, including Paul Cartier, Georges Baptiste, Francois Lartigue, Lorenzo, Mauvais and others.

The curse is regional to the woods of Northern Canada and takes place, under the right conditions, when a person in the forests of Canada feeds on human flesh. This "Curse of the Wendigo" was created by the Northern Gods (also known as "the Inua") in an effort to deter human cannibalism. The cannibal transforms into a superhumanly strong, nearly indestructible, fur-covered monster: the Wendigo. He or she then roams the woods eating human beings. The Wendigo has frequently fought the Hulk, Wolverine, and Alpha Flight. Paul Cartier transformed into the Wendigo, battled the Hulk, and escaped. He battled the Hulk again and encountered Wolverine,and then battled the Hulk and Wolverine; Paul Cartier was cured as college professor Georges Baptiste became the Wendigo. He later terrorized a snowbound group. He battled Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and members of Alpha Flight; the Baptiste Wendigo was captured and cured by Shaman. Fur trapper Francois Lartrigue later transformed into the Wendigo, battled the Hulk when Bruce Banner stumbled across a cabin belonging to him, and Sasquatch, and was taken to be cured by Shaman.

In King Size Hulk #1, it is revealed that a pack of Wendigo exist in the Bering Strait after Red Hulk is attacked by a Wendigo, attracted by his camp fire while cooking a meal. A Wendigo bites the Red Hulk on the shoulder and he bleeds hot radioactive blood. He shoots the Wendigo in chest a few times with a rifle and wounds the creature, but it uses its long tail to damage his gun's sight scope. Angered, the Red Hulk reveals he gets hotter the madder he gets and then kills one Wendigo; the others come to claim the body and eat it.

The Wendigo possesses a variety of superhuman physical abilities as a result of transformation by an ancient mystical curse. The curse causes anyone that ingests the flesh of another human, while within the Canadian wilderness, to transform into the Wendigo.

The Wendigo possesses superhuman physical strength of an unknown limit. It is known that the Wendigo possesses sufficient strength to go toe-to-toe with the Incredible Hulk.

Aside from its vast strength, the tissues of the Wendigo's body are considerably stronger than those of a human being, providing it with superhuman durability. A Wendigo's body can resist high caliber machine gun rounds without sustaining injury. If a Wendigo is injured, it can recover from the physical trauma with tremendous speed and efficiency, giving rise to the quote "strike him down and he shall only rise again". The dense fur covering the Wendigo's body grants it immunity to the harsh conditions of the extreme cold weather common in the areas in which the Wendigo has appeared. The Wendigo can be rendered unconscious by sufficient force, such as severe physical injury and trauma, but it has even been able to regenerate from being completely disemboweled, including having its heart removed from its body. However, consumption of a removed heart will confer all powers and even the form of the Wendigo on whoever consumes it. It is not known what effect psionic attacks would have on or against a Wendigo.

Despite the Wendigo's great size, it can run at speeds greater than that of an Olympic level athlete. The enhanced musculature of the Wendigo generates less lactic acid than the muscles of a human being, granting it superhuman levels of stamina.

The Wendigo's fingers and toes are tipped with razor sharp, retractable claws that are capable of piercing even the Hulk's skin, a feat usually reserved for adamantium, due to a combination of the toughness of the claws and the Wendigo's massive physical strength.

Even though each Wendigo was once a human being, in most cases very little is left of the person it once was. It possesses little intelligence and can be considered non-sentient, and with the exception of brief and rare instances, is unable to remember things about its former life. It also lacks the ability to speak anything other than its own name, which it often will yell and repeat during its attacks. Sorcerers such as Mauvais and Lorenzo have been able to avoid this aspect of the curse, using magic to gain the power of the Wendigo while keeping their intelligence and the power of speech.

 

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MINDLESS HULK

Height: 7' 0"

Weight: 1,040 lbs.

The Mindless Hulk posesses all the powers of the Savage Hulk with one notable exception. While the power works the same way the results are very different. The Mindless Hulk is a result of Bruce Banner completely withdrawing himself from the equation of the Hulk. As a result the anger of the Hulk, and therefore the strength, is limitless.

As stated before the Mindless Hulk is the Hulk without the Bruce Banner persona exercising any influence. Bruce Banner had just "enjoyed" the longest run of his brain in the Hulk's body to date, but lost control both due to his own insecurities and the influence of Nightmare. Bruce was tired of fighting the Savage Hulk, who was trying to get out, and as a result withdrew completely.

It's my theory that perhaps the Mindless Hulk is an incarnation of Banner's state of babyhood. When Dr. Strange finds Bruce Banner withdrawn within Hulk's mind he finds him curled up in the fetal position as a baby in a womb might be. The proposed idea of Banner's psychic suicide is dismissed as he resurfaces after a time. The other reason I'm lead to believe the Mindless Hulk represents Banner as a baby is that each time Mindless went out he seemed to learn. Usually a very hard lesson. But Hulk only remained speechless for a short time. Eventually Hulk learned and acted more as he learned more. Eventually Mindless' learning lead to the re-emergence of the Savage Hulk, long recognized as Banner's childhood, as a baby will turn into a child through learning and growth. Banner's hurt goes all the way back to his days as a baby when his father would do his best to keep Bruce alienated from his mother.

Special limitations: Unlike the Hulks of old this Hulk never had to worry about transforming back into Bruce Banner. However, this wasn't without it's price. Mindless Hulk was just that...mindlesss. He had no reasoning abilities and was impossible to deal with.

Appearances: Incredible Hulk #299-307, annual 13

 

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I like how marvel have kept the hulk out of most of these events. They know they cant make any sense of a story arc with his ass in it. Why? That shit would only last a couple of pages. Add the Hulk and it SHOULD be game over, unless these writers dilute him. Ratbastards...

 

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I like how marvel have kept the hulk out of most of these events. They know they cant make any sense of a story arc with his ass in it. Why? That shit would only last a couple of pages. Add the Hulk and it SHOULD be game over, unless these writers dilute him. Ratbastards...

WORD but let an epic event when the hero's or earth about to get smashed by Onslaught. Cosmic Beings and God's then they call for help, lol....

 

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@waterproof i see you really hate the red hulk

 

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@waterproof i see you really hate the red hulk

I really don't care for Rulk; I might skim through his comic at the comic store but I never brought his issues. But I respect him he brought something new, Rulk came in and slap the shit out of The Watcher broked Savage Hulk arm and was kickin Thor's ass. I ain't a hater I got him coming up, that's why I did General Thunderbolt first, but I don't care for Rulk, lol

 

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I just find it wierd...he made hulk current run intresting but do we really need 2 hulks man? 2 she hulks....and his sons and daughters...should only be 2 big greens...banner and the one with tits

 

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It makes sense to keep Red Hulk. Imagine if writers ATTEMPTED to add green hulk to the Avengers vs Xmen? Shit would make no sense when the Green Scar laid the greatest ass whooping to the entire Charles Xavier Campus just a few years back. Marvel needs a big man on the Avengers and the Red Hulk fits the bill.

 

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Yea im starting to find him intresting, i always hated the idea of him but....thanks to this thread i went and checked his feats...he is legit...dont mean i gotta like thunderbolt but he can be were big green cant or fills that niche

 

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Hulk's current run is weird as fuck. The separation arc was a dope concept but bruce is merged back somehow and Hulk gotta stay angry or turn back into psycho Bruce

 

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I just find it wierd...he made hulk current run intresting but do we really need 2 hulks man? 2 she hulks....and his sons and daughters...should only be 2 big greens...banner and the one with tits

Red Hulk did made the Hulk interesting because nobody knew who this new Hulk whoppin ass and taking names and there was somebody finally knocked Hulk off his thrown, for a minute RULK was the new bully on the block and there was a love and hate with him in Marvel, Plus his Powers was different too so that's what make him interesting because he was absorbing the energy out of people so he was unstoppable for a hot minute.

 

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BETTY ROSS

The love of Bruce Banner's life, she has been one of the Hulk's greatest allies, though she is the daughter of his greatest enemy, General 'Thunderbolt' Ross. She has been transformed into the Harpy, died, and is now a Hulk herself. What's next in her life remains to be seen...

The only daughter of the renowned General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross, Betty spent her formative years firmly under her father's strict supervision. Thunderbolt Ross had wanted a son, and his disappointment at having a daughter was reflected in the way he raised her. After her mother died during Betty's teenage years, she was sent away to boarding school. After graduating, the introverted young woman returned to her father's side. Thunderbolt Ross was then in charge of a top-secret project to create a new type of weapon involving gamma radiation. The head scientist on the project was Robert Bruce Banner, whom her father detested because he felt Bruce was both a physical and emotional weakling. The General's hatred for the handsome young scientist intensified when he realized Betty was falling in love with him.

But their relationship was forever changed when, during the test of his gamma radiation bomb, Bruce, rushing out to the restricted area to rescue a teenager named Rick Jones, was struck by the full force of the detonation and became the Incredible Hulk. With the exception of Jones, who had witnessed his very first transformation into the Hulk, Bruce managed for many years to keep his condition a secret not only from the rest of the world but also from Betty, as this secret also served to alienate her from him. She was then romantically pursued by Major Glenn Talbot, the new aide attached to her father's Hulkbuster task force.

Because of his uncontrollable transformations into the Hulk, Bruce's 'disappearances' and sudden 'reappearances' in strange places would lead both General Ross and Major Talbot to suspect that Bruce was not only a traitor to his country but that there was some mysterious connection between him and the Hulk. Eventually, the secret of Bruce's dual identity became public knowledge and he became a hunted fugitive as a result. But thanks to Reed Richards, the leader of The Fantastic Four, Bruce's condition changed so that he could now control his changes into the Hulk and could maintain his normal personality and intelligence when he was in the Hulk's form and Bruce vowed that, even if his life depended on it, he would never again become the Hulk. Believing that he could lead a normal life once again, Bruce proposed to Betty, who happily accepted. Reluctantly, General Ross consented to the wedding of Bruce with his daughter, which was to be held in the house in which she had been born. However, during the ceremony, just before Bruce and Betty could be pronounced husband and wife, the Hulk's archenemy the Leader, seeking vengeance, fired radiation at Bruce that not only transformed him into the Hulk but returned the creature to his previous savage condition. When General Ross was seriously injured when the Hulk ran amok and tore the house apart while battling the Rhino, who had also crashed the wedding, and hopes for the wedding to occur were no more, Glenn Talbot vowed to a heartbroken Betty that the Hulk would pay with his very life if her father dies.

Bruce once again became a hunted fugitive and his transformations and rampages continued to create a rift between him and Betty. Believing Bruce to be lost forever to her as a potential husband, not only because of the Hulk, but because she believed that Bruce instead loved a female green-skinned alien princess from a Sub-Atomic world named Jarella, Betty married Glenn Talbot, delighting her father. Talbot tried desperately to keep her away from both Bruce and the Hulk all the while. While Betty and Talbot were on their honeymoon, her father continued his global pursuit of the Hulk, only to be captured by the Soviet scientist known as the Gremlin and sent to a Soviet prison. Talbot joined a mission to rescue Ross and was successful in rescuing his father-in-law, but Talbot himself was captured in the process. Ross and the other Americans on the mission incorrectly believed that Talbot had been killed. When Betty learned of her husband's supposed death, she suffered a nervous breakdown. During this time she was transformed by the villainous MODOK into a gamma-empowered flying menace known as the Harpy. In this form, she was an insane green creature with a woman's head and arms, but the wings and body of a giant bird of prey. She could fly and fire energy blasts. As the Harpy, Betty battled the Hulk and nearly killed him. Bruce managed to reverse Betty's condition and she was returned to normal.

When Betty learned that her father conspired with M.O.D.O.K to kill the Hulk, Betty accused him of treason. Realizing Betty was right, Ross nearly committed suicide and then disappeared.

Bruce again achieved a state in which he could control his transformations and maintain his normal personality and intelligence while in the form of the Hulk. But this time, however, Betty was upset because she wanted Bruce to be rid of the Hulk, not to control him, and left him once again. Bruce then briefly became romantically involved with his new assistant and S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Dr. Katherine "Kate" Waynesboro. But due to the influence of the evil dream demon Nightmare, Bruce once again lost control over the Hulk, who had become more savage than ever before, and his relationship with Kate ended shortly after.

The Hulk disappeared from Earth for an extended period, and Betty began dating a man named Ramon. Upon learning that the Hulk had been sighted on Earth once again, Betty left Ramon and returned to Gamma Base, where the Hulk was subjected to a process that split Bruce and the Hulk into separate entities. Believing himself finally cured, Bruce proposed to Betty, and she accepted. Betty's father appeared at the wedding, armed with a gun and demanding that the marriage not take place before shooting Rick Jones, who tried to stop him. Courageously, Betty confronted her father, accusing him of domineering her throughout her life, as well as calling him out on his hostility towards Bruce over the years, and cowered him into surrendering the gun. Then finally, Bruce and Betty were pronounced husband and wife.

However, Bruce began dying as a result of being physically separated from the Hulk. Bruce and the Hulk were secretly merged once more and Betty soon discovered this. General Ross later died before his daughter's eyes when he sacrificed his life to destroy an unnamed mutant that nearly killed both Betty and Bruce seeking a strong host to be parasitically linked to.

Betty later became distraught on learning that Bruce had sometimes consciously triggered his transformation in the past and was even now willing to become the Hulk in order to deal with very menacing threats. She left Bruce and returned to Ramon, but then changed her mind and abandoned Ramon as well. She was then captured by the Leader, who set her free after learning that she was pregnant with Bruce's child, but after being tormented with terrible nightmares by the demons Nightmare and D'Spayre, Betty loses her unborn baby.

 

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She was eventually reunited with Bruce, but soon afterward the Hulk seemingly perished in a tremendous explosion at Gammatown. Believing Bruce and the Hulk dead, Betty left for New York City, where she eventually began training to become a nun. Betty spent some months in a convent to recover from the ordeal, but eventually reunites with Bruce. They spent years living together as fugitives until the Hulk's enemy Abomination used his own blood to poison Betty, which would appear to be the work of the Hulk himself (due to the high levels of gamma radiation present in both of their bodies). Betty was placed in cryogenic suspension by her father.

In a later retconned storyarc Betty was seemingly revived by the Leader; underwent surgery which considerably altered her appearance; was granted superhuman strength; and for a time aided her fugitive husband as his shadowy contact, Mr. Blue.

 

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CAIERA

Caiera was born on Sakaar to a tribe of Shadow People. She was raised by the priests to be a shadow warrior. When she was thirteen, her village was attacked by alien "spikes" that caused the other villagers to mutate into monsters. Caiera, the only survivor, was rescued by the Red Prince.

When the Red Prince becomes the Red King, Caiera is his loyal lieutenant. When the Hulk arrives on Sakarr and gains public support as a gladiator, she protects the Red King from him. After a failed attempt to ruin his popularity, the Hulk and his Warbound escape.

Caiera is sent to kill the Hulk, but they encounter spikes during their battle. The Red King reveals he controls the spikes, devastating her. She turns against the Red King and aids the Hulk in a coup. Hulk becomes the Green King, and he marries Caiera. She becomes pregnant, but dies in an explosion before giving birth. Hulk returned to earth to avenge her death in the World War Hulk

Her two sons, Skaar and Hiro-Kala survived the explosion and occasionally see Caiera as a spirit

Caiera possessed abilities that were derived from the planet itself, she could transform her body into stone and become incredibly resistant and strong, to an extent that she battled the Hulk to a standstill whereas his own strength and fighting skills since had already dramatically increased. She also was an expert fighter and tacticiansuperhuman strength, limited invulnerability

 

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It makes sense to keep Red Hulk. Imagine if writers ATTEMPTED to add green hulk to the Avengers vs Xmen? Shit would make no sense when the Green Scar laid the greatest ass whooping to the entire Charles Xavier Campus just a few years back. Marvel needs a big man on the Avengers and the Red Hulk fits the bill.

@zoomzoomp5 i understand where you is coming from and it's the truth because Avengers goes against THE HEAVYWEIGHTS God's and Cosmic Entities and they need a HeavyWeight to go with Thor on the Team, Sentry mind is always fucked so he can't be count on.

But to show how Powerful Rulk is, it took THE GREEN SCAR aka WWH to kicked the RULK ass, Then WWH locked him up in a bunker that Banner Created for the Hulk where he can't escape and Had Steve Rogers to take him in as an Avenger.

 

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SHARPNEL HULK

The existence of Shrapnel Hulk was a short lived one. He only existed for a moment but was irrational enough to guarantee the existance of a Maestro in our timeline. Thankfully Shrapnel Hulk and the Young Maestro that followed him ended the run of Savage Banner who more than once endangered Banner's life. In fact Shrapnel Hulk exists because Savage Banner believing himself to be 7 feet tall and 1,040 pounds instead of a mere 5 foot 9 and 128 lbs walked up to a live grenade. Banner was nearly killed and only saved by the lve of his deceased wife Betty.

The shrapnel in his brain effected his thinking. He had little to no regard for those around him and figured it was necessary to tranform himself into the Maestro in order to scapegoat himself for the sake of the world.

Shrapnel Hulk returned to us after his stint as the Maestro, but despite his heroic attitude that caused him to sacrifice himself as the Maestro, the Shrapnel Hulk was in an even worse mood than before if you can believe that. Shrapnel

Appearance: Incredible Hulk vol. 1 #438, 439, 443-445

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