The IC Beatmaking/Producing Thread

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I was messing around with a Big KRIT acapella and thought Id mix it in with a new beat im workin on. Still a work in progress.

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5 Grand;6076344 said:
antarticp;6075418 said:
5 Grand;6075162 said:
Here's the secret to producing Hip Hop;

Go to thrift shops and used record stores and cop record albums from the 70s for $2-$3. Spend about $100 a month for a year. You'll have crates of records to choose from from groups you've never heard of and groups you would have otherwise never known about.

or just search the net lol

Yeah but the thing about thrift shops and used record stores is that they'll have an entire album for $2. You can flip through the album and it'll be an artist that you would have never thought to look for. The only reason you copped it in the first place is because the cover looks cool and its from 1975. In other words, a used record store has stuff that you wouldn't even know to search for on google or you tube.

i can dig it
 
RaySwift;6082196 said:
antarticp;6075418 said:
5 Grand;6075162 said:
Here's the secret to producing Hip Hop;

Go to thrift shops and used record stores and cop record albums from the 70s for $2-$3. Spend about $100 a month for a year. You'll have crates of records to choose from from groups you've never heard of and groups you would have otherwise never known about.

or just search the net lol

Diggin is a lifestyle. lol

Aint nothing like hittin a record store, throwing the ipod on shuffle and just dig dig dig for records. I can spend hours in a record stores basement.

hey i can dig it #punintended lol

 
boss jay;6090317 said:
ANBOS "I Smoke D Best" (prod. by Boss Jay) and Im on the 2nd verse in this video.. this video is the #1 video on MississippiHipHop.com (s/o to all my fellow MS rappers too, Big Krit, Tito Lopez, Tha Joker, Flawless Da RichKid, David Banner, Kamikaze all on the website also)

Boss Jay - Hold On (prod. by Boss Jay) this the Real Rap right here.. I do it all

Boss Jay - Dat Good (La La La) feat. Bun B (prod. by Boss Jay) if u into dat UGK/old Outkast/Big Krit feel I got u..

Boss Jay - All My Life (prod. by Boss Jay) give yall a taste of my sample game..

nice tracks you must be from louisiana you got a similar accent to kidd kidd ......

 
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konceptjones;6100186 said:
antarticp;6071702 said:
konceptjones;5971689 said:
antarticp;5971586 said:
konceptjones;5971570 said:
BlackGerald;5970136 said:
Are MPCs worth it in 2013 over Maschine, DAWs and MPDs?

Depends on how you work.

An MPC isn't tied to a computer. Sometimes you just might not feel like fucking around with a computer at all when you're making music. I know I sometime wish I had an ASR-X strictly for making hip hop joints and honestly, I just might buy one in a few months if I can find the right one.

but with a computer you can get the usb compatible hardware if you dont like using a pc ... just use my pc to edit i have an m-audio usb keyboard to do my notes ... they even have one that looks just like an mpc .... and shit if you savy enuff you can connect you mpc to the computer software as well ........

That's the problem for some people: That the controller is tied to a PC/Mac at all is something some cats don't always want.

Give you an example: There have been times when I was riding the bus where I just wanted to pull out the Axiom Air 32 and fuck with some beats, but because the controller does nothing without the software, this is not possible. Right now, if you want to make beats on the go without a PC/Mac, your only real option is the MPC500, which is battery powered. The limitation, though, is that it's still a drum/sample/sequencing machine. If you're the type of producer that uses more instrumentation, you're pretty much fucked. You have no choice but to lug around a laptop and controller for on-the-go creation.

lol lugging around a laptop > mpc .... come on son you making it sound like an mpc is the size of an nintendo ds ... there is no comparison when your talking mobile production ... PC is the best route ... lighter and more robust as far as being able to do the complete production from beginning to end ......

I'm guessing you've never seen an MPC500.

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The MPC500 next to a Nano Kontrol. The MPC500 is far smaller than a laptop and it's battery powered.

i stand corrected ... the only question i have is how much hard drive space is available in that mpc ??

 
antarticp;6121950 said:
konceptjones;6100186 said:
antarticp;6071702 said:
konceptjones;5971689 said:
antarticp;5971586 said:
konceptjones;5971570 said:
BlackGerald;5970136 said:
Are MPCs worth it in 2013 over Maschine, DAWs and MPDs?

Depends on how you work.

An MPC isn't tied to a computer. Sometimes you just might not feel like fucking around with a computer at all when you're making music. I know I sometime wish I had an ASR-X strictly for making hip hop joints and honestly, I just might buy one in a few months if I can find the right one.

but with a computer you can get the usb compatible hardware if you dont like using a pc ... just use my pc to edit i have an m-audio usb keyboard to do my notes ... they even have one that looks just like an mpc .... and shit if you savy enuff you can connect you mpc to the computer software as well ........

That's the problem for some people: That the controller is tied to a PC/Mac at all is something some cats don't always want.

Give you an example: There have been times when I was riding the bus where I just wanted to pull out the Axiom Air 32 and fuck with some beats, but because the controller does nothing without the software, this is not possible. Right now, if you want to make beats on the go without a PC/Mac, your only real option is the MPC500, which is battery powered. The limitation, though, is that it's still a drum/sample/sequencing machine. If you're the type of producer that uses more instrumentation, you're pretty much fucked. You have no choice but to lug around a laptop and controller for on-the-go creation.

lol lugging around a laptop > mpc .... come on son you making it sound like an mpc is the size of an nintendo ds ... there is no comparison when your talking mobile production ... PC is the best route ... lighter and more robust as far as being able to do the complete production from beginning to end ......

I'm guessing you've never seen an MPC500.

4652221196_69774e9bc9.jpg


The MPC500 next to a Nano Kontrol. The MPC500 is far smaller than a laptop and it's battery powered.

i stand corrected ... the only question i have is how much hard drive space is available in that mpc ??

It starts out with 16MB of sample RAM that can be expanded to 128MB. As far as storage goes, it all depends on the CF card you use (up to 2GB).

They're pretty cheap on Ebay.
 
antarticp;6121932 said:
boss jay;6090317 said:
ANBOS "I Smoke D Best" (prod. by Boss Jay) and Im on the 2nd verse in this video.. this video is the #1 video on MississippiHipHop.com (s/o to all my fellow MS rappers too, Big Krit, Tito Lopez, Tha Joker, Flawless Da RichKid, David Banner, Kamikaze all on the website also)

Boss Jay - Hold On (prod. by Boss Jay) this the Real Rap right here.. I do it all

Boss Jay - Dat Good (La La La) feat. Bun B (prod. by Boss Jay) if u into dat UGK/old Outkast/Big Krit feel I got u..

Boss Jay - All My Life (prod. by Boss Jay) give yall a taste of my sample game..

nice tracks you must be from louisiana you got a similar accent to kidd kidd ......

Thanx fam..and nah Im from Next Door though...Mississippi right in the middle of the state dawg

 
one of my favorite producers right now

For the latest installment we spoke to the Minnesota-bred, Dallas-based beatsmith Cardo whose smoothed out modern g-funk helped set the tone on Wiz Khalifa’s seminal 2010 tape Kush and Orange Juice.

How did you first get into production? It was really though my uncles. My whole family was music oriented and I watched what they were doing, especially my uncles and cousins. Some were making beats but most of them were rapping. And I was like, “hmm… this is pretty cool. I want to do it too.”

Being that you’re from St. Paul, how is it that you ended up being so closely associated with Pittsburgh artists? I was producing for Mac Miller before anybody, Chevy [Woods] as well. I was just following their whole movement, especially with Wiz and what he was doing when he came out with Prince Of The City. Then Mac Miller came along and I was networking just like I always I do. I was on Twitter and I was just like “yo I got these beats for you.” Actually this was when Myspace was still the shit. Me and Chevy were on Myspace and we chopped up on there. He gave me an email and then we made the shit happen.

When did you start doing stuff with Wiz? I linked up Wiz through Chevy and his uncle Motor. I live in Texas now and [Wiz] came down for a show one day and he wanted me to come through. I was having stomach issues that night, like I ate some bad ass food and I’m like “Oh my god if I go I’m scared I might shit on myself.” [Laughs]

One of the things I like about that whole circle is it seems like they take the old school method of building a tight knit production stable, with you, Sledgren and Jerm. What’s that like adapting to that sort of a unit? It’s different, I’m not quite used to it and I’m still trying to adapt. But me and Sledgren, our styles blend together. We both make trippy type shit and Sledgren is in a whole-nother lane just like I am. Jerm, too. It’s good, it’s comforting and it’s not like any other shit that you see out there and what they’re doing with their production teams. We actually work as a team and we work together.

So you guys are legitimately holed up in the studio together then, not just sending off emails? Yeah, just like that. If we’re not together we will do email, but most of the time we be together and we’ll do something. Whenever we’re in the studio we’re cooking up. Werever we’re at, we’ve got our laptops with us. If we’re in a hotel room or lobby somewhere we’re gonna pull them out and start making beats. That’s how dedicated we are. Especially myself. If I feel like I got a tune in my head, I got a melody and I can lay it down right now I’m gonna go ahead and do it.

How closely are the rappers involved with your beatmaking process? When does Wiz or Chevy come into the equation? Most of the time I’ll send Wiz something and he’ll lay something down that same night but he won’t tell me until I actually see him. It’ll be a month later then he’ll play me some music and I’m like “Aww man when’d you do this?!” and he’ll be like “The night you sent me the beat!”

What was the situation with Rolling Papers? I know a lot of people were disappointed that you weren’t on that album. I think, if anything, I want to say it had something to do with the label. Wiz was trying to do something different as well and we respected that. Of course a lot of people were disappointed because he didn’t have Cardo and Sledgren on there. That’s fine, I’m pretty sure he was expecting that whole outcome. But you gotta try something different just to see people’s reactions. I guess he got the message. A lot of people weren’t feeling it but honestly I think it was a cool album. This is another situation with O.N.I.F.C., we’re actually on there this time.

It seems like your sound owes a lot to the west coast, DJ Quik in particular. Quik was a heavy influence as far as producing, being a rapper, looking fly, trying to have all the bitches. I was trying to be like Quik when I was younger. [Laughs] He’s like one of my idols. I don’t know if this is wrong to say but I would pick him over Dr. Dre. He knows so much. I was just finally around him, watching how he worked and he was like a mad scientist, doing shit I didn’t even think was ever possible. There’s not that many producers out there who can play almost every damn instrument in the book.

What do you think drew you to that style of rap? Minnesota is very influenced by the west coast. We’re the Midwest. Not saying I didn’t grow up on east coast Music [too], but it was more about the gangsta boogie with me. MC Eiht, NWA, Dre, Snoop, E-40. Everybody from the Bay down to LA. With Quik the whole sound will make you feel good, it was groovy music. Fun, energetic, real, something new. It was that G-Funk. My ear just caught it. I guess it was just being raised how I was with my family. The music we used to listen to: SOS Band, Gap Band, Loose Ends. Just funky music. That’s where my sound came from.

When did you transition into more professional stuff? My uncle was on Fruity Loops. We went to his house one day and saw him making beats off of a computer and were amazed by it. We had just gotten a computer at the house so we were like “Okay, let’s go in here and try to figure out how we can use this Fruity Loops.” My uncle brought a demo version over and we were just making the demo version beats until we got the real deal through one of our friends who had a burnt copy. We’ve been on Fruity Loops ever since, since 2000.

Wow even still today? Yessir. I have an [Akai] MPC 8000 as well but I just use it to chop up my samples. I [do] like to learn other software, programs like Propellerhead Reason and Native Instruments Maschine but I usually stick with what I know.

When you’re working on a project like that do you have it in your head which beats are going to land on it? Or which are going to specific rappers? Most of the time I just make music for anybody. It’s my sound that I have to offer. People may say “his shit [all] sounds the same” but I want to focus on just one sound that’s going to impact the game. Like how Neptunes did it. Or Timbaland, Dre, Quik, Rza. All of them had that sound where you could hear it and say “I know who produced that.” You could point it out. I still try to do some things different here and there but I don’t want people being confused. [That happened] just recently with the Chris Webby shit. People didn’t think Cardo did that.

Has the Mac Miller and Lord Finesse situation changed your approach as far as sampling goes? Yeaaaah. It definitely has. I’m trying to stay away from sampling as much as possible. The rules are getting a little bit tighter now. We’re getting red flags for using samples on free mixtapes! I sampled the Deadmau5 joint “I Remember” [for Wiz's "O.N.F.I.C."] and I was scared to put it out in the first place. I put it on my Soundclick page when I had a Soundclick page and somebody told me that they could actually sue me for that. “Deadmau5 doesn’t play them type of games, he’ll get on your ass.” I took it off my page eventually.

So I’m gonna just wait and see exactly how this Mac Miller shit turn out because it look like Lord Finesse is going all the way with it. There’s producers out there that strictly use samples like Harry Fraud. Harry Fraud makes the dopest shit with samples that nobody would ever think of and it’s putting [artists like him] in a hold right now.

Read more:http://www.thefader.com/2012/10/15/beat-construction-cardo/#ixzz2bcZKYqPA
 
I don't know if this has been brought up, but what's a good site to sell beats on? my boy wuz tellin me nipsey (hussle) uses one but I forget the name...
 

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