The eagles have traded mcnabb to the redskins!!!!!!

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BlackxChild;454834 said:
No Campbell was on a team just as good as those teams... The Redskins have had one of the best Ds in the league he has Moss he had an RB who ran for 1400 yards... Look at the Bears with Cutler.... Remember Hesters 1st starting game as a receiver when Grossman threw him 2 of the easiest Touchdown passes and Hester let the passes fall right between his hands... Do u think Cutler sucks when his receivers trip over their own feet causing an int.... Grossman kept going through that over and over... Grossman literally might be a real solid QB if u study game tape the guy has a quick release and can fit passes into tight spaces... Bears need Receivers...

co-sign. Rexman unjustly took a lot of shit while the piss poor recievers got a pass. he showed sparks of potential but then was failed by coaching, play-calling, and above all else bad recievers time and time again..

have a look at this pass from Grossman:

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not bad eh? perfectly placed downfield.

now Cutler has crazy potential but was given a converted DB as a number 1 with a bunch of 3rd string rookies for a recieving core.. he had no choice but to improvise and look what happened, the Tight End has to step up and becomes the number 1 in receptions for the Bears and towards the end of the season Cutler was giving anyone a chance like Aromashadu because no one else was cuttin it. not a good look. not to mention piss poor coaching and play-calling again - and of course a terrible offensive line.

anyway, don't mean to derail the thread. just making the point that you should be careful to fall into the trap that a great QB can win without great tools around him - it just doesn't happen and McNabb was a perfect example. easily one of the top 3 players of all time in that sorry franchise's history and everyone around him gets a pass for losing games besides him. it's the nature of the game that everyone will look to the QB when a team loses but that's just ignorant. McNabb stays getting shit on, hopefully he'll tear some shit up in Washington, i look forward to watching the Eagles get beat down next year, i'll be rooting against them that's for sure.
 
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this thread is hilarious. shit went from talking eagles fans off the bridge to jacon campbell vs the field lol
 
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BlackxChild;454847 said:
Did u see Brennan in his 1st preseason if u didnt shut the fuck up and watch these vids he was 4/5 All he threw where accurate highlights.... Y do u think the Redskins kept when he got injured for a full season on IR on the roster as a 7th round pick? Y do u think CHRIS COOLEY wants him as a starter...If u goto Redskins messageboard they have thread called the Cult for Colt the thread has gone double diamond Redskins fans r pissed about Mcnabb bc they want Colt. In the 2nd vid they compare him to Favre...





As a Cowboys fan I want him to go to the Raiders... Get him out of this division he was the Most accurate QB in Colkege history if he wouldve went in the draft early he wouldve been a 1st round pick...
The funny thing is u haven't come up with a single valid dtatement to my arguments u have yet to explain to me how Campbell has done anything.... What has he done for u to defend him...


all the feelings you just caught....and with this preseason highlight reel your showin, it still DOES NOT VALIDATE TRADING A 2ND ROUND PICK FOR HIM you would be a dumbass Al Davis ass GM nigga, shut yo stupidass up, talkin bout trading a 2nd round pick for a nigga that never started a game....that just makes no sense
 
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how dumb are the Eagles for trading McNabb, a quarterback who can still carry a team on his back, to a team in their own division??? Are they trying to be this years Packers & have McNabb destroy they asses twice a year?........they thought Eagles fans hated McNabb before......the Redskins gotta squad......they jus had Jason Campbell......i gotta cuzin in high school who makes better on the field decision than he did this past year......Vick better get his shit right this off season....cuz if Kolb is starting this year.......their season is done before it starts.......damn the upper management at the Eagles are idiots?......shouldve jus sent his ass to Oakland
 
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I really do NOT want Donovan on the Redskins. He beat the redskins consistently for 11 years dancing and showing off the whole time, now were suppose to welcome this ...... with open arms?? I do not like this..... at all, not one bit. He can help us win, but something has to be said about why the Eagles would trade him in division..... I just don't get that and I don't get it at all... something doesn't seem right... Like the Eagles know something we don't about Donovan.
 
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Problem is people are crediting Grossman for wins, when he doesn't deserve it. As far as wins go, the bears (during grossman years), and Vikings, have a better team than Campbell did with the Redskins. No contest really.
 
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bow to royalty;455632 said:
Problem is people are crediting Grossman for wins, when he doesn't deserve it. As far as wins go, the bears (during grossman years), and Vikings, have a better team than Campbell did with the Redskins. No contest really.

How do? How where the Bears better.... Redskins have a better secondary The Redskins had Fletcher Orakpo and and Haynesworth... Redskins have better receivers and Thomas Jones was better with the Jets than he was with the Bears.... Tell how the fuck where the Bears better than the Redskins... Grossman did win them games they had the best record in the NFC....
 
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millz_flybridge;455281 said:
all the feelings you just caught....and with this preseason highlight reel your showin, it still DOES NOT VALIDATE TRADING A 2ND ROUND PICK FOR HIM you would be a dumbass Al Davis ass GM nigga, shut yo stupidass up, talkin bout trading a 2nd round pick for a nigga that never started a game....that just makes no sense

So what if Colt became Tom Brady? U r the one who wants to trade a 3rd for a QB we KNOW hasnt done shit... Before Brennan went Hawaii he was a 1st round pick... He was alsoa high prospect coming out of highschool... The Saints wanted to trade a 3rd for Romo based off of preseason before they got Brees.,.. The Cowboys would only accept a 2nd for an UNDRAFTED QB... So tell me whats worse trading a 2nd for a player who impresses u who is an unknown, or trading a 3rd or 4th for some1 who u know isnt going to be ur future starter...
 
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BlackxChild;455727 said:
How do? How where the Bears better.... Redskins have a better secondary The Redskins had Fletcher Orakpo and and Haynesworth... Redskins have better receivers and Thomas Jones was better with the Jets than he was with the Bears.... Tell how the fuck where the Bears better than the Redskins... Grossman did win them games they had the best record in the NFC....

You serious? The bears defense was waaay better than the skins D. And their special teams was great that year too. bears durin SB run was a much better team than the 4-12 skins ur comparin them to. Come on man, be serious. And Thomas Jones/ Cedric Benson was a legit backfield. And no...Grossman didn't win their games. His stats got inflated in blowouts
 
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bow to royalty;457722 said:
You serious? The bears defense was waaay better than the skins D. And their special teams was great that year too. bears durin SB run was a much better team than the 4-12 skins ur comparin them to. Come on man, be serious. And Thomas Jones/ Cedric Benson was a legit backfield. And no...Grossman didn't win their games. His stats got inflated in blowouts

That Bears team didnt have the best Defensive Tackle in the league... That Bears team didnt have a good secondary. That Bears team only had better linebackers and even then the Redsins have fletcher and Orakpo who are pretty damn good.... The Redskins players are better than those Bears defensive player.... The Bears didnt get blown out or they wouldnt have had the best record in the NFC didnt they win 12 or 13 games.... How did his stats get inflated.... He had no receivers Berrian was absolute trash back then and when Hester came in Grossman constantly threw touchdown passes to him and they where dropped.... How are your stats inflated when your receivers drop every pass thrown to them.... Like I said there's a stat that Grossman, Derek Anderson, and Tavaris Jackson had the most passes that hit the hands of their receivers that where dropped.
 
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Redskins' acquisition of McNabb similar to so many moves before

Look, nothing personal against Donovan McNabb. Six Pro Bowls, five NFC championship games, every passing record that matters in Philadelphia. He is certainly an upgrade to the position. Even a scorned and prideful Jason Campbell could admit that.

But before everyone congratulates the new brain trust for essentially doing what the old brain trust did -- procure some other town's star instead of developing your own -- answer two questions as thoughtfully and honestly as possible:

Does anyone believe the Washington Redskins are poised to win the Super Bowl next season? What about 2012?

No and no.

If you agree with that assessment and do not live in denial or Ashburn, any well-argued case for acquiring McNabb just went out the window.

Offseason champions again? Offseason champions again.

Daniel Snyder can bring in a new regime. The owner can say he's ceding authority in football decisions to Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen like never before. But the delusion ultimately continues.

They still are in the business of selling hope more than harsh truth, hyperbole more than reality.

The Redskins still want their gullible congregation to believe they're one player away from NFL nirvana, and a 33-year-old, 11-year veteran given up by a team in their own division is that player.

Talk about a chip off the old block. Bruce Allen can't just jettison the future with draft picks, go out and acquire an old QB quarterback and genuinely believe it will work; his Dad already did that.

"The Over The Hill Gang," George Allen called them, and they were led by Billy Kilmer and assorted geezers. The difference almost 40 years later is the Redskins were 4-12 a year ago, not even close to the precipice. Their quarterback was sacked more times than all but two other quarterbacks in the league. Jason Campbell didn't need a capable offensive lineman at the end of last season; he needed a personal-injury lawyer.
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You know where I stand on Campbell. He never had a legitimate shot with a healthy line. Between musical-chair coaches and systems and a mighty-mite receiving corps -- before Fred Davis and Devin Thomas grew up late last year -- Campbell's head was on a swivel.
 
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Last offseason, at the very moment the Redskins could have instilled confidence in the first quarterback since Brad Johnson to start and finish a 16-game season in Washington, they treated Campbell as if he was on the practice squad and he smelled bad. At least his job went to a player of real merit; oh, the indignity if the Redskins' dalliances with Jay Cutler or Mark Sanchez went anywhere last season. (Okay, Sanchez would not have been bad.)

So for all the misguided people who blamed Campbell for the team's misfortunes -- as if McNabb or, hey Joe Montana or John Elway would have taken you to the NFC playoffs behind D'Anthony Batiste and Edwin Williams, take heart: I finally agree with you today:

I'm happy Jason will soon be gone too, if for different reasons.

It means Campbell gets out of NFL purgatory, where at least two things never change:

1) It doesn't matter how much you give to this organization, if you're already on the roster and have carried water for the franchise you'll always be less valuable than the exotic candidate from abroad.

And 2) losing you will be bemoaned within a few years (see Brad Johnson, Ryan Clark and Antonio Pierce). Oh, and Campbell will probably be upright longer wherever he goes.

Also, does anyone have a major problem with making a trade inside your own division, basically asking Redskins fans to suddenly fall in love with a guy they found comfort in loathing? This isn't a lineman or a role player; this is the most important position on the field.

And don't start with, "Remember when Sonny came over from the Eagles in '64? How'd that work out?" Sonny Jurgensen came to Washington after just seven years in Philadelphia. His best years were ahead of him. Unless he's channeling Brett Favre, McNabb probably has three quality seasons of signal-calling left. As beloved as he is in parts of Philly, he's also a player who has polarized Eagles fans, who always remind you of his 1-4 mark in NFC championship games.

Sure, he can step right into Shanahan's West Coast offense. Of course this makes it a no-brainer to draft Russell Okung to be the next Chris Samuels at left tackle for 10 years.
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Having a future Hall-of-Famer like McNabb is good for the turnstile. He will make people watch, spend money on No. 5 jerseys -- provided Colt Brennan goes back to his No. 15 college number worn by the since-departed Todd Collins -- and he will give people the same hope that is usually taken away by November.

But it seems this is more about not being able to say the word "Rebuild" than anything. They can't let themselves not say, "Reload." Eleven years running, Snyder is still addicted to the idea the Redskins are just an extra point away from the Lombardi Trophy, and now McNabb becomes the answer.

He said nice things about Shanahan in his statement after the trade, but is that what he would have said if Minnesota or Arizona dealt for him? McNabb can say this is what he wants as much as he wants but he could have been on the doorstep with at least two franchises, and the Redskins weren't one of them.

And if that high second-round pick becomes a running back needed to replace current aging vets in the backfield, this trade hurts them even more.

Bottom line, instead of forward-thinking, instead of drafting and developing a player who could be the Redskins' quarterback the next 10 years -- Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen -- the Redskins traded for a player who is past his prime and will turn 34 in November.

The spin: No-brainer. How many times can you acquire a Pro Bowler without giving up a first-round pick, for a guy that already knows your division?

The truth: Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles know Donovan McNabb better than anyone. And they were inexplicably okay with moving him to another team in their own division.

Think about that while you're rushing to the team store for your new jersey.
 
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