The devil loves you

[zzombie]

this whole believers vs non believers things really comes down to perspectives on reality

on one side you have the materialist who think that reality can be reduced to only being phenomenons that can be studied experimented on and that we can draw conclusions from these experiments these people reduce humanity to being nothing more than a collection of atoms.

On the other side you have the people who think that reality is more than that, who think that reality is only partially composed of the material world with it's atoms, partial waves, strings and whatnot. These people believe that our species is above but within the material universe.

It's like the human species is literally split in half you have the people with spiritual senses and you the people who either don't have any at all or whose spiritual ability has atrophied to almost nothingness.

 

[Ajackson17]

this whole believers vs non believers things really comes down to perspectives on reality

on one side you have the materialist who think that reality can be reduced to only being phenomenons that can be studied experimented on and that we can draw conclusions from these experiments these people reduce humanity to being nothing more than a collection of atoms.

On the other side you have the people who think that reality is more than that, who think that reality is only partially composed of the material world with it's atoms, partial waves, strings and whatnot. These people believe that our species is above but within the material universe.

It's like the human species is literally split in half you have the people with spiritual senses and you the people who either don't have any at all or whose spiritual ability has atrophied to almost nothingness.

I can only go what we can base our information on as of now, but if you want my perspective and my beliefs that if there is a creator than we are within that creator as with evolution all life has a common ancestor a progenitor. I personally believe that consciousness is the existence force learning more of itself using us. I can't prove that is the case and thus I keep that to myself or if someone asks.

 

[VIBE]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

 

[MARIO_DRO]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

 

[kingblaze84]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

Jesus lied about coming quickly (2,000 years later, no appearances lol), and the Bible god in the OT admits to sending lying and deceiving spirits several times. What's your point?

 

[kingblaze84]

Satanists are planning to create a giant pentagram hologram in the sky in Lancaster, California tomorrow, for 6-6-16 celebrations. Supposedly the hologram will have the pentagram expand and be seen from throughout the whole city. They released a statement on it earlier this week....
http://macarthur.charismanews.com/o...ant-pentagram-to-raise-awareness-for-satanism

The Pentagram is a star with five points. Using GPS technology we will place the five points of the star so that the Pentagram will encompass your entire city. When all of the points are in place, the Pentagram is completed. Drawing this symbol around your city represents a solemn promise from us, the Satanic Temple of Los Angeles. We will stand with the good people of the City of Lancaster and struggle for our constitutional right to individual liberty, freedom of expression and the separation of church and state in your community.

--Sounds interesting.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

Lol what you just said would actually prove his point. The Devil would be posing as God as he's known to lie and deceive, and he/she would have the impressionable believing that good is bad and bad is good.

 

[VIBE]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

What did the devil ever lie about?

 

[damobb2deep]

^^^ we've been through this @kingblaze84 .... that's man's handiwork, not gods.

And what exactly is this "god" (which god?) doing about it? Humans have polluted and screwed up the world in many ways, true, but what exactly is this god doing about the natural parasites and other horrors of the world? Is this god really that lazy, or just a giant prick? After all these years, let's be honest, humans aren't going to improve by much.

Humanity has to hit rock bottom first.

How far to the bottom does humanity have to hit lol?? Many people are doing fine of course but BILLIONS of people are living horrible, awful lives, often from natural causes. And humans aren't going to be any less greedy or reckless with how they treat the environment and other people, wars will continue to rage and landfills are only going to get more overcrowded. Some places have already hit rock bottom, and yet the misery in some places continues.

my theory is the moment one human feels like they can actually rival god...(and has the potential (through technology) will he appear again..

honestly if you read both testaments you see in the old testament that God had limitations and had more "human" emotions. Its the new testament where God is perceived as this "perfect" being..

either way the bible is different accounts of how those particular people experienced his presents and how they perceived him. Honestly there is no "wrong or right way" believe in him..

 

[Ajackson17]

^^^ we've been through this @kingblaze84 .... that's man's handiwork, not gods.

And what exactly is this "god" (which god?) doing about it? Humans have polluted and screwed up the world in many ways, true, but what exactly is this god doing about the natural parasites and other horrors of the world? Is this god really that lazy, or just a giant prick? After all these years, let's be honest, humans aren't going to improve by much.

Humanity has to hit rock bottom first.

How far to the bottom does humanity have to hit lol?? Many people are doing fine of course but BILLIONS of people are living horrible, awful lives, often from natural causes. And humans aren't going to be any less greedy or reckless with how they treat the environment and other people, wars will continue to rage and landfills are only going to get more overcrowded. Some places have already hit rock bottom, and yet the misery in some places continues.

my theory is the moment one human feels like they can actually rival god...(and has the potential (through technology) will he appear again..

honestly if you read both testaments you see in the old testament that God had limitations and had more "human" emotions. Its the new testament where God is perceived as this "perfect" being..

either way the bible is different accounts of how those particular people experienced his presents and how they perceived him. Honestly there is no "wrong or right way" believe in him..

That's evolution of a deity.

 

[damobb2deep]

^^^ we've been through this @kingblaze84 .... that's man's handiwork, not gods.

And what exactly is this "god" (which god?) doing about it? Humans have polluted and screwed up the world in many ways, true, but what exactly is this god doing about the natural parasites and other horrors of the world? Is this god really that lazy, or just a giant prick? After all these years, let's be honest, humans aren't going to improve by much.

Humanity has to hit rock bottom first.

How far to the bottom does humanity have to hit lol?? Many people are doing fine of course but BILLIONS of people are living horrible, awful lives, often from natural causes. And humans aren't going to be any less greedy or reckless with how they treat the environment and other people, wars will continue to rage and landfills are only going to get more overcrowded. Some places have already hit rock bottom, and yet the misery in some places continues.

my theory is the moment one human feels like they can actually rival god...(and has the potential (through technology) will he appear again..

honestly if you read both testaments you see in the old testament that God had limitations and had more "human" emotions. Its the new testament where God is perceived as this "perfect" being..

either way the bible is different accounts of how those particular people experienced his presents and how they perceived him. Honestly there is no "wrong or right way" believe in him..

That's evolution of a deity.

which is ironic because the bible teaches against that..

 

[Ajackson17]

^^^ we've been through this @kingblaze84 .... that's man's handiwork, not gods.

And what exactly is this "god" (which god?) doing about it? Humans have polluted and screwed up the world in many ways, true, but what exactly is this god doing about the natural parasites and other horrors of the world? Is this god really that lazy, or just a giant prick? After all these years, let's be honest, humans aren't going to improve by much.

Humanity has to hit rock bottom first.

How far to the bottom does humanity have to hit lol?? Many people are doing fine of course but BILLIONS of people are living horrible, awful lives, often from natural causes. And humans aren't going to be any less greedy or reckless with how they treat the environment and other people, wars will continue to rage and landfills are only going to get more overcrowded. Some places have already hit rock bottom, and yet the misery in some places continues.

my theory is the moment one human feels like they can actually rival god...(and has the potential (through technology) will he appear again..

honestly if you read both testaments you see in the old testament that God had limitations and had more "human" emotions. Its the new testament where God is perceived as this "perfect" being..

either way the bible is different accounts of how those particular people experienced his presents and how they perceived him. Honestly there is no "wrong or right way" believe in him..

That's evolution of a deity.

which is ironic because the bible teaches against that..

Because humans wrote the bible, even if they did have an encounter with a higher power, that doesn't negate what we can see in the biology and DNA. There is a lot of things that we know in modern times through trial and error and observation and testing. Then producing a product that gives real results.

 

[MARIO_DRO]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

Jesus lied about coming quickly (2,000 years later, no appearances lol), and the Bible god in the OT admits to sending lying and deceiving spirits several times. What's your point?

STOP BEING SIMPLE BRUH... GOD/JESUS ISNT ON A 24 HOUR CLOCK... WHAT IS 2000 YEARS TO SOMEONE THAT HAS EXSISTED OUTSIDE OF TIME..?

 

[MARIO_DRO]

Satan lied to the angels in heaven to get them to go against God. He is the father of lies and deception..He also lied to Eve, in the Garden of Eden. After planting seeds of doubt in Eve’s mind with a question (Genesis 3:1), he directly contradicts God’s Word by telling her, “You will not certainly die” (Genesis 3:4). With that lie, Satan led Eve to her death; Adam followed, and so have we all.

 

[kingblaze84]

^^^ we've been through this @kingblaze84 .... that's man's handiwork, not gods.

And what exactly is this "god" (which god?) doing about it? Humans have polluted and screwed up the world in many ways, true, but what exactly is this god doing about the natural parasites and other horrors of the world? Is this god really that lazy, or just a giant prick? After all these years, let's be honest, humans aren't going to improve by much.

Humanity has to hit rock bottom first.

How far to the bottom does humanity have to hit lol?? Many people are doing fine of course but BILLIONS of people are living horrible, awful lives, often from natural causes. And humans aren't going to be any less greedy or reckless with how they treat the environment and other people, wars will continue to rage and landfills are only going to get more overcrowded. Some places have already hit rock bottom, and yet the misery in some places continues.

my theory is the moment one human feels like they can actually rival god...(and has the potential (through technology) will he appear again..

honestly if you read both testaments you see in the old testament that God had limitations and had more "human" emotions. Its the new testament where God is perceived as this "perfect" being..

either way the bible is different accounts of how those particular people experienced his presents and how they perceived him. Honestly there is no "wrong or right way" believe in him..

That's an interesting theory but it seems weird that it didn't come back during the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade or during the Holocaust. Was Jesus or whoever too busy being preoccupied with something during those events? The Bible makes the Abrahamic god seem quite powerful but real life makes it seem hollow and weak. I'm not against believing in a higher power but the Bible god seems like a giant fraud talking that rah-rah shit yet being so absent during those events.

 

[kingblaze84]

take away titles and describe each entity as a human, ppl will say that the one w Gods description is the evil person and the devil is good

titles play the part here, nothing else

YOU THINK THATS ALL IT IS?

IF THE DEVIL IS KNOWN TO LIE AND DECIEVE, WOULDNT HE ALSO DO THAT WITH HIS APPEARANCE/WHOLE BEING AND SAID PURPOSE?

Jesus lied about coming quickly (2,000 years later, no appearances lol), and the Bible god in the OT admits to sending lying and deceiving spirits several times. What's your point?

STOP BEING SIMPLE BRUH... GOD/JESUS ISNT ON A 24 HOUR CLOCK... WHAT IS 2000 YEARS TO SOMEONE THAT HAS EXSISTED OUTSIDE OF TIME..?

That's a terrible excuse, so 2,000 plus years isn't a long time now? No wonder 70% of the world isn't Christian.

 

[VIBE]

Satan lied to the angels in heaven to get them to go against God. He is the father of lies and deception..He also lied to Eve, in the Garden of Eden. After planting seeds of doubt in Eve’s mind with a question (Genesis 3:1), he directly contradicts God’s Word by telling her, “You will not certainly die” (Genesis 3:4). With that lie, Satan led Eve to her death; Adam followed, and so have we all.

Copy and pasted..

but elaborate on the lie to the Angels..

As for "lying" to Eve, technically he didn't..

 

[soul rattler]

Satan lied to the angels in heaven to get them to go against God. He is the father of lies and deception..He also lied to Eve, in the Garden of Eden. After planting seeds of doubt in Eve’s mind with a question (Genesis 3:1), he directly contradicts God’s Word by telling her, “You will not certainly die” (Genesis 3:4). With that lie, Satan led Eve to her death; Adam followed, and so have we all.

You always type in all caps. This post isn't in all caps. Does this mean you got your answer from someone else? Why couldn't you answer for yourself?

 

[soul rattler]

If the soul is eternal, then it logically follows that man will not surely die. So, nope. No lie told there.

The third of Heaven that rebelled, what lie was told exactly? This time, type the answer yourself.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Yes they surely died. Before they were aware there was no death, only life. We had awareness like that of animals, and all they know is life. They aren't aware "one day" they will die, they don't contemplate their life or death. After the 'eating of the fruit' adam and eve became aware of their ultimate demise.

I didn't get to this understanding by argument with someone, debate or general conversation. Imo it is something that needs to be pondered to understand.