Young_Chitlin
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He is spot on with that
Tommy bilfiger;8853703 said:
the most impressive thing about this cubs offseason is they havent had to trade away a single one of the good young prospects yet, this season will offer a better glimpse as to who theo feels more comfortable moving forward with and i can see why they view contreras as untouchable
you know theres no clear way to win the world series
its baseball, things happen
your best chance is yearly contetion to get another spin at the wheel but on the low i think buster posey is a big reason why the giants have won 3 rings in the last 5 or 6 years -- his skill level opens up possobilities for the giants to be different than every other team defensively without having to make concessions on offese and its looking like the cubs might have that in contreras
It finally comes out: Several White Sox players complained about Drake LaRoche
When the Adam LaRoche news broke last week — which, from now on, we will refer to as DrakeGhazi — the claim was made that the process was set in motion by Ken Williams. Chris Sale and Adam Eaton unambiguously claimed in the media that no player on the White Sox’ roster had a problem with Drake LaRoche. Adam LaRoche said, in his statement, that his only issue was with Ken Williams, strongly implying the same. Even Ken Williams — at least publicly — said that limiting and/or barring Drake LaRoche’s access, which led to Adam LaRoche’s retirement, was his call.
As I said when this story came out, it didn’t add up. Sale and Eaton’s talk of the clubhouse being unified and Williams’ nodding about the “bonding” of the clubhouse over all of this didn’t make sense. Rather, I and many others surmised, this was likely a situation in which White Sox players — maybe several of them — complained to Ken Williams about Drake LaRoche’s presence and Ken Williams (a) was doing their bidding in limiting/barring Drake LaRoche’ and (b) took the heat for it so there was not a clubhouse rift. Occam’s Razor suggested that this was the more likely situation, no matter what the official line was.
Occam’s Razor did not fail us. Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports:
. . . while the early evidence frames this as a Williams vs. LaRoche battle over clubhouse time for LaRoche’s son, multiple baseball officials with direct knowledge of the Adam LaRoche brouhaha told USA TODAY Sports a different tale.
Several players and staff members privately complained to White Sox management recently about the constant presence of LaRoche’s 14-year-old son, Drake, in the clubhouse.
While one may be tempted to say this doesn’t much matter now because LaRoche is gone, the fact is that the behavior of all of the parties in the past few days makes this a pretty big deal.
There was a heated team meeting about this on Tuesday. A meeting Chris Sale said presented a White Sox team entirely on the same page regarding the LaRoches. So much so that a boycott of Wednesday’s spring training game was considered. In the following days Sale accused Ken Williams of lying when he said that players or coaches complained and he hung up the LaRoches’ jerseys in his locker. The team kept Drake LaRoche’s nameplate up on his locker in his memory. Yesterday Adam Eaton talked about how Drake LaRoche was a team leader, for crying out loud.
Now Sale and Eaton — and, one presumes, some other players for whom they were speaking — know that what they initially believed was not true. They now know that there was not unanimous acceptance of Drake LaRoche. At the very best the Sale-Eaton contingent have to be embarrassed at how far out on the limb they got on this, portraying clubhouse ambivalence as clubhouse unity. More concerning, however, is that the Sale-Eaton contingent may now feel as though their teammates lied to them. Either by voicing disingenuous support for the LaRoches while they secretly complained or by keeping silent and allowing that impression to be created.
There will be some tempted to play the role of savvy cynic and say “eh, Sale and Eaton probably knew others complained and were just being dramatic.” I think that’s pretty unlikely. To say the things they said and to act in the manner they did — remember, they were talking about boycotting a game over this — while knowing that others in the clubhouse didn’t agree with them would itself be an act of clubhouse dissension. They’d be publicly rubbing their teammates’ noses in the matter and passive-aggressively calling them out. That’s not something players would do lightly or easily. No, I believe they took the stance that they did because they truly believed they were in an us (players) against him (Ken Williams) situation. I believe that they believed that no uniformed White Sox personnel had an issue with Drake LaRoche. Remember, when Ken Williams privately suggested that to Sale, Sale accused him of lying.
They have now found out they were wrong. Moreover, I presume that they will soon find out who, exactly, complained about Drake LaRoche. They will find out whose complaints set the ball in motion for the retirement of one of their favorite teammates and whose silence led them to, quite frankly, take some pretty ridiculous public positions on the matter. And then they’ll have to spend the next six and a half months working, traveling and living with them.
When the Adam LaRoche news broke last week — which, from now on, we will refer to as DrakeGhazi — the claim was made that the process was set in motion by Ken Williams. Chris Sale and Adam Eaton unambiguously claimed in the media that no player on the White Sox’ roster had a problem with Drake LaRoche. Adam LaRoche said, in his statement, that his only issue was with Ken Williams, strongly implying the same. Even Ken Williams — at least publicly — said that limiting and/or barring Drake LaRoche’s access, which led to Adam LaRoche’s retirement, was his call.
As I said when this story came out, it didn’t add up. Sale and Eaton’s talk of the clubhouse being unified and Williams’ nodding about the “bonding” of the clubhouse over all of this didn’t make sense. Rather, I and many others surmised, this was likely a situation in which White Sox players — maybe several of them — complained to Ken Williams about Drake LaRoche’s presence and Ken Williams (a) was doing their bidding in limiting/barring Drake LaRoche’ and (b) took the heat for it so there was not a clubhouse rift. Occam’s Razor suggested that this was the more likely situation, no matter what the official line was.
Occam’s Razor did not fail us. Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports:
. . . while the early evidence frames this as a Williams vs. LaRoche battle over clubhouse time for LaRoche’s son, multiple baseball officials with direct knowledge of the Adam LaRoche brouhaha told USA TODAY Sports a different tale.
Several players and staff members privately complained to White Sox management recently about the constant presence of LaRoche’s 14-year-old son, Drake, in the clubhouse.
While one may be tempted to say this doesn’t much matter now because LaRoche is gone, the fact is that the behavior of all of the parties in the past few days makes this a pretty big deal.
There was a heated team meeting about this on Tuesday. A meeting Chris Sale said presented a White Sox team entirely on the same page regarding the LaRoches. So much so that a boycott of Wednesday’s spring training game was considered. In the following days Sale accused Ken Williams of lying when he said that players or coaches complained and he hung up the LaRoches’ jerseys in his locker. The team kept Drake LaRoche’s nameplate up on his locker in his memory. Yesterday Adam Eaton talked about how Drake LaRoche was a team leader, for crying out loud.
Now Sale and Eaton — and, one presumes, some other players for whom they were speaking — know that what they initially believed was not true. They now know that there was not unanimous acceptance of Drake LaRoche. At the very best the Sale-Eaton contingent have to be embarrassed at how far out on the limb they got on this, portraying clubhouse ambivalence as clubhouse unity. More concerning, however, is that the Sale-Eaton contingent may now feel as though their teammates lied to them. Either by voicing disingenuous support for the LaRoches while they secretly complained or by keeping silent and allowing that impression to be created.
There will be some tempted to play the role of savvy cynic and say “eh, Sale and Eaton probably knew others complained and were just being dramatic.” I think that’s pretty unlikely. To say the things they said and to act in the manner they did — remember, they were talking about boycotting a game over this — while knowing that others in the clubhouse didn’t agree with them would itself be an act of clubhouse dissension. They’d be publicly rubbing their teammates’ noses in the matter and passive-aggressively calling them out. That’s not something players would do lightly or easily. No, I believe they took the stance that they did because they truly believed they were in an us (players) against him (Ken Williams) situation. I believe that they believed that no uniformed White Sox personnel had an issue with Drake LaRoche. Remember, when Ken Williams privately suggested that to Sale, Sale accused him of lying.
They have now found out they were wrong. Moreover, I presume that they will soon find out who, exactly, complained about Drake LaRoche. They will find out whose complaints set the ball in motion for the retirement of one of their favorite teammates and whose silence led them to, quite frankly, take some pretty ridiculous public positions on the matter. And then they’ll have to spend the next six and a half months working, traveling and living with them.
https://twitter.com/Chris_Cwik/status/711285571893596164
i was led astray
i hated his signing because of everything i was reading
heres what olney said
i remember gammons on the radio saying best case scenario he would hit .230 but its obvious these 'rival evaluators' or whatever never really watched him play because he is one of the best at keeping his hands inside the ball since his rookie year
other signings that year
cano: 10 years, $240 million
beltran: 3 years, $45 million
ellsbury: 7 years, $153 million
choo: 7 years, $130 million
granderson: 4 years, $60 million
i was led astray
i hated his signing because of everything i was reading
heres what olney said
And the reality is that Abreu is not regarded by rival evaluators as anything close to a sure thing; the White Sox are seeing something in Abreu that other teams are not. Some scouts wonder whether Abreu has the bat speed necessary to be an impact player in the big leagues, or even an average player. The Houston Astros were aggressive in trying to sign Abreu, and they fell far short, bidding $55 million; the Red Sox were outbid by a whopping $28 million, having offered about $40 million. With the Puig and Cespedes signings, there is some positional flexibility, because both were regarded as players who could play any of the three outfield spots. Abreu is a first baseman who is thought destined to be, in the eyes of some scouts, a designated hitter.
i remember gammons on the radio saying best case scenario he would hit .230 but its obvious these 'rival evaluators' or whatever never really watched him play because he is one of the best at keeping his hands inside the ball since his rookie year
other signings that year
cano: 10 years, $240 million
beltran: 3 years, $45 million
ellsbury: 7 years, $153 million
choo: 7 years, $130 million
granderson: 4 years, $60 million
Tommy bilfiger
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Season starts in 10 days.A week from sunday to be exact.I was watching the NL wc game the other day gonna miss castro goofy ass but this team loaded been patiently waiting all winter and we almost here.
Tommy bilfiger
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Cubs vs Giants on espn right now!!!!!
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Cubs were down 11-5 now up 13-11.Arrieta was getting tagged but he had a blister and left in the 1st
Bumgarner & Heyward almost got into it cuz the giants thought the cubs were tipping pitches when he was getting rocked.Bumgarner got that I'd choke a nigga with my bare hands type of look that I don't particularly like
Bumgarner & Heyward almost got into it cuz the giants thought the cubs were tipping pitches when he was getting rocked.Bumgarner got that I'd choke a nigga with my bare hands type of look that I don't particularly like
http://nesn.com/2016/03/red-sox-to-...s-final-spring-training-game-at-jetblue-park/
this is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen
the red sox are having a ceremony for ortiz last meaningless game lmao his last time playing a game that hes openly admitted is stupid and doesnt even enjoy playing in
im tired of these farewell tours
this shit is way too overdone with the gifts and stuff
smh @ arod
like wait until after this season is over before saying you are going to retire two years from now
DONT GIVE HIM A GIFT
this is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen
the red sox are having a ceremony for ortiz last meaningless game lmao his last time playing a game that hes openly admitted is stupid and doesnt even enjoy playing in
im tired of these farewell tours
this shit is way too overdone with the gifts and stuff
smh @ arod
like wait until after this season is over before saying you are going to retire two years from now
DONT GIVE HIM A GIFT
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/169289222/drew-hutchison-struck-in-back-of-head
lol
ive never seen anything like this happened
runner on first takes off, jays catcher throws a bullet that squarely hits the crouching pitcher in the back of the head
lol
ive never seen anything like this happened
runner on first takes off, jays catcher throws a bullet that squarely hits the crouching pitcher in the back of the head
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oh baseball, how i have missed you
al east - blue jays
al central - royals
al west - astros
wc 1 - tigers
wc 2 - yankees
nl east - mets
nl central - cubs
nl west - giants
wc 1 - pirates
wc 2 - cardinals
theres a bunch of really good teams and a bunch of bad teams in the NL
not much in the middle (just like last year)
the marlins might be the only NL team to finish within 5 games +/- of .500 -- every other NL team is either really good or awful, i wouldnt be surprised to see the marlins jump the nats for 2nd place -- a healthy and productive outfield this year for them and fernandez and chen form a nice 1-2 punch at the top
capps was a huge loss for them though
the AL is looking verymediocre even again any of the 5 AL east teams could win the division and i could see 4 teams that could win the AL central
al east - blue jays
al central - royals
al west - astros
wc 1 - tigers
wc 2 - yankees
nl east - mets
nl central - cubs
nl west - giants
wc 1 - pirates
wc 2 - cardinals
theres a bunch of really good teams and a bunch of bad teams in the NL
not much in the middle (just like last year)
the marlins might be the only NL team to finish within 5 games +/- of .500 -- every other NL team is either really good or awful, i wouldnt be surprised to see the marlins jump the nats for 2nd place -- a healthy and productive outfield this year for them and fernandez and chen form a nice 1-2 punch at the top
capps was a huge loss for them though
the AL is looking very
Tommy bilfiger
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Ben cherington made some terrible transactions as red sox gm
You're not buying the dbacks?
ckfree;8886449 said:
You're not buying the dbacks?
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