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Lakers Briefly Considered Pistons' Offer Of Grant Hill For Kobe Bryant In 1999

The Los Angeles Lakers briefly considered trading Kobe Bryant to the Detroit Pistons in 1999 when they were offered Grant Hill.

Hill was one season away from free agency and ultimately signed with the Orlando Magic.

“Kobe showed up at the press conference that introduced me as the new Lakers coach," said Phil Jackson. "He came up to my hotel room afterwards and we had our first face-to-face connection. He said he had read all about my championships with the Bulls and had studied several game tapes, so he was very excited. Kobe was 20 years old and had already played three NBA seasons.

“The Summer League was in Los Angeles that year and we sat together to watch the games that the Lakers had. Jim Cleamons was one of my assistant coaches in Chicago and would also be on my staff with the Lakers. So it was JC who coached the team of free-agent hopefuls and draft choices. As I explained the unfolding of the elementary triangle offense that JC had installed, as well as more of the advanced principles, Kobe was still excited. It was clear to me that he not only was willing to learn, but that he really wanted to learn.

“Then he fell and broke his wrist in our first exhibition game. For several weeks, Kobe had to be sidelined and watch guys like Shaq, Glen Rice, Ron Harper, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, A.C. Green, Brian Shaw and Robert Horry pile up a 10-1 record. Shaq had really bought into the triangle and was well established at the heart of our offense.

“When Kobe was healed and ready to return, I was a bit reluctant to make a major alteration in our winning combination. So I suggested that Kobe come off the bench. ‘I don’t see myself not starting,’ was his response. ‘I don’t want to be known as a bench player.’ Here was a 20-year-old already concerned about his legacy. So we had a little pushback, an indication of what might lie ahead.

“A couple of weeks later, we’re still winning and Shaq is completely motivated. But Kobe was only averaging about 19 points per game. So Kobe called Jerry West and wanted to know how Jerry and Elgin Baylor both averaged 30 points. Kobe also said that he wanted to be traded. Of course, Jerry told me about the conversation. And, for a few minutes I thought about taking the Pistons up on an offer they made to trade Kobe for Grant Hill. Make that a few seconds.

“The thing was that Kobe already saw himself as being one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA. I thought that, in time, he would indeed reach that goal.

“Anyway, he was not going to be traded. So we’d talk about being patient, and letting the game come to him. But Kobe would sometimes still go off on his own, disregarding the offense and trying to single-handedly take over the game. When I called him on this, he’d say that for us to keep on winning, there was a lot for him to do."
 
Tommy bilfiger;9305915 said:
Paprika;9305396 said:
ckfree;9305380 said:
still find myself amazed at the downfall of lance stephenson

perennial all star looking

top restricted fa 3 season ago

to now being an unwatned unrestricted fa

makes me wonder what couldve happended had he stayed in indiana

It's Indiana and Vogel's system. Look what happened to Hibbert. That team was something special and that was our year to win. F Indiana.

When I get a chance I'll find my post saying the pacers would son the knicks months in advance before it happened.

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Knick fans dumbest fan base on here(metal know his shit the rest camby gif) anybody who thought that fraud knickstape squad would win anything is a fool.
 
Tommy bilfiger;9314503 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9305915 said:
Paprika;9305396 said:
ckfree;9305380 said:
still find myself amazed at the downfall of lance stephenson

perennial all star looking

top restricted fa 3 season ago

to now being an unwatned unrestricted fa

makes me wonder what couldve happended had he stayed in indiana

It's Indiana and Vogel's system. Look what happened to Hibbert. That team was something special and that was our year to win. F Indiana.

When I get a chance I'll find my post saying the pacers would son the knicks months in advance before it happened.

20fc2vk.jpg


11t0snd.jpg


2u60gp4.gif


Knick fans dumbest fan base on here(metal know his shit the rest camby gif) anybody who thought that fraud knickstape squad would win anything is a fool.



Aye fuck you nigga getting real tired of your disrespek! Put some Respek on my name!

 
iron man1;9314866 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9314503 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9305915 said:
Paprika;9305396 said:
ckfree;9305380 said:
still find myself amazed at the downfall of lance stephenson

perennial all star looking

top restricted fa 3 season ago

to now being an unwatned unrestricted fa

makes me wonder what couldve happended had he stayed in indiana

It's Indiana and Vogel's system. Look what happened to Hibbert. That team was something special and that was our year to win. F Indiana.

When I get a chance I'll find my post saying the pacers would son the knicks months in advance before it happened.

20fc2vk.jpg


11t0snd.jpg


2u60gp4.gif


Knick fans dumbest fan base on here(metal know his shit the rest camby gif) anybody who thought that fraud knickstape squad would win anything is a fool.



Aye fuck you nigga getting real tired of your disrespek! Put some Respek on my name!


@"iron man1"

ayo, i just noticed you're on the coli. That iron man Knicks avi dope. When niggas in here was saying this sub forum wack with no traffic they weren't lying so I'm about join thecoli and see what's up.
 
NoCanadiansEH;9314887 said:
niggas really talmbout joining thecoli in this bitch?

scust

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I remember some posters thats been in here for a while suggested to join thecoli last summer. Most in here already over there, so fuck it. I'll just post in the sports section.
 
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NoCanadiansEH;9314887 said:
niggas really talmbout joining thecoli in this bitch?

scust

Jack-staring-and-then-shaki.gif

Are u suprised? I got a bitch that wants to perman ban over stupid shit here..

Gns/donkey is trash

 
Cybertr0n;9314879 said:
iron man1;9314866 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9314503 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9305915 said:
Paprika;9305396 said:
ckfree;9305380 said:
still find myself amazed at the downfall of lance stephenson

perennial all star looking

top restricted fa 3 season ago

to now being an unwatned unrestricted fa

makes me wonder what couldve happended had he stayed in indiana

It's Indiana and Vogel's system. Look what happened to Hibbert. That team was something special and that was our year to win. F Indiana.

When I get a chance I'll find my post saying the pacers would son the knicks months in advance before it happened.

20fc2vk.jpg


11t0snd.jpg


2u60gp4.gif


Knick fans dumbest fan base on here(metal know his shit the rest camby gif) anybody who thought that fraud knickstape squad would win anything is a fool.



Aye fuck you nigga getting real tired of your disrespek! Put some Respek on my name!


@"iron man1"

ayo, i just noticed you're on the coli. That iron man Knicks avi dope. When niggas in here was saying this sub forum wack with no traffic they weren't lying so I'm about join thecoli and see what's up.

I ended up on there due to looking for a Knicks forum. Knicks fan base is deep over there and it's the offseason so cheapseats is slow as hell but, I don't care about recruiting for any internet site that's just stupid. Just here or anywhere to talk about basketball, football, and joke around a little bit.

 
If the Clippers break up i hope Chris Paul wouldn't mind coming back to play with Anthony and Buddy, I'm getting tired of Jrue Holiday's reliability problems, and then this dude is still gonna want to get paid more than John Wall this offseason
 
To get everyone up to speed, the Cavs coaching staff, outside of Tyronn Lue and Larry Drew, remain without contracts. Their deals expired on July 1st, and at least a few worked during the Las Vegas Summer League without pay. According to Haynes, Phil Handy, Damon Jones, Jim Boylan, and James Posey are all without deals. On top of this, the Cavs exercised Larry Drew’s option for next year, but the deal was in place when Drew was the third or fourth assistant. He’s now the associate Head Coach.

All of this leads to Haynes’ characterization of the state of the talks in pretty dire terms. “Frustration is at its worst”, he says, and it’s “unbelievable” that a team coming off an NBA championship finds itself in this situation. He notes that the standoff has “reached the point of hostility”.

:open_mouth:
 

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