Texas CHURCH SHOOTING: 20 Shots fired during service (27 Dead- 20+ Injured)

[2stepz_ahead]

This convo has gotten narcissistic again. Nigga 30 people got gun down, this shit is bigger than race. It's some seriously fucked up people in this country.

Specifically, in this country. I

THEY been made it about race. Blame them.

THEY are not on this forum though.

Yes THEY are

Even if that's the case; shitting on a 5 year old kid for getting killed though?

not sure you remember an 11 year old that was demonized and he dont even understand why or have the time to process what was about to happen.....yet certain people only saw his skin color.

even after knowing it was a kid.....still didnt back away from how they felt.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

This convo has gotten narcissistic again. Nigga 30 people got gun down, this shit is bigger than race. It's some seriously fucked up people in this country.

Specifically, in this country. I

THEY been made it about race. Blame them.

THEY are not on this forum though.

Yes THEY are

Even if that's the case; shitting on a 5 year old kid for getting killed though?

I'm not shitting on a kid for getting killed. However I'm not shitting on ghostdog for his views either because I see and understand where he's coming from.

Illogical stances should always be shit on, whether you understand why they are held. They serve no purpose than to perpetuate the problems faced.

That is all a person's opinion.

You and some others see it as illogical, while @ghostdog56 and some others see it as logical.

Neither side is right or wrong yall just see it how yall see it.

Logic isn't really an opinion. The importance of logic is. However, him condemning them while using the same line of reasoning they do is inherently illogical and stupid.

He's free to see it that way, but it's a useless and ineffective stance to take.

It would be one thing if something productive came out of all these hard lines stances these niggas want to take, but nothing does. It's just a bunch of silly niggas talking shit.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

 

[fortyacres]

I'm glad we are not back in the slave days because I would have hated to be on the plantation with some of you niggas. You niggas would of been cheesing hard as fuck for your future oppressor

Okay Nat Turner

sure , whatever you say buddy , i am coon , sambo yada yada yada

 

[D. Morgan]

This convo has gotten narcissistic again. Nigga 30 people got gun down, this shit is bigger than race. It's some seriously fucked up people in this country.

Specifically, in this country. I

THEY been made it about race. Blame them.

THEY are not on this forum though.

Yes THEY are

Even if that's the case; shitting on a 5 year old kid for getting killed though?

I'm not shitting on a kid for getting killed. However I'm not shitting on ghostdog for his views either because I see and understand where he's coming from.

Illogical stances should always be shit on, whether you understand why they are held. They serve no purpose than to perpetuate the problems faced.

That is all a person's opinion.

You and some others see it as illogical, while @ghostdog56 and some others see it as logical.

Neither side is right or wrong yall just see it how yall see it.

Logic isn't really an opinion. The importance of logic is. However, him condemning them while using the same line of reasoning they do is inherently illogical and stupid.

He's free to see it that way, but it's a useless and ineffective stance to take.

It would be one thing if something productive came out of all these hard lines stances these niggas want to take, but nothing does. It's just a bunch of silly niggas talking shit.

You seeing his stance/reaction to what happened as "illogical" is an opinion.

His stance/reaction is factually neither right nor wrong its just an opinion on some events. An opinion is neither right nor wrong.

Shit ain't about an opinion being productive its about how he feels end of story.

Some of yall trying to make the shit into something it ain't and making it a bigger deal than it really is.

That is how that man feels I respect it and you feel differently I respect that as well.

Some of yall the ones looking crazy trying to tell that man how he should feel about some shit that happened.

 

[Kwan Dai]

This convo has gotten narcissistic again. Nigga 30 people got gun down, this shit is bigger than race. It's some seriously fucked up people in this country.

Specifically, in this country. I

THEY been made it about race. Blame them.

THEY are not on this forum though.

Yes THEY are

Even if that's the case; shitting on a 5 year old kid for getting killed though?

I'm not shitting on a kid for getting killed. However I'm not shitting on ghostdog for his views either because I see and understand where he's coming from.

Illogical stances should always be shit on, whether you understand why they are held. They serve no purpose than to perpetuate the problems faced.

That is all a person's opinion.

You and some others see it as illogical, while @ghostdog56 and some others see it as logical.

Neither side is right or wrong yall just see it how yall see it.

Logic isn't really an opinion. The importance of logic is. However, him condemning them while using the same line of reasoning they do is inherently illogical and stupid.

He's free to see it that way, but it's a useless and ineffective stance to take.

It would be one thing if something productive came out of all these hard lines stances these niggas want to take, but nothing does. It's just a bunch of silly niggas talking shit.

What's productive about your kumbaya, let's hold hands and cry with wasichu suggestion?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

 

[Kwan Dai]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

 

[The Lonious Monk]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

 

[jono]

Im personally not gonna sit here and say I dont feel bad for a 5 year old dying for any reason, and the 14 year old girl that died hurt me too.

But with that said, I can understand why someone would say they dont give a fuck even if it was a white baby that got killed. Looking at just the action of the person not caring, its easy to say that person is fucked up, but a person just doesnt wake up and not care about the death of a child. Feeling indefferent is the effect, not the cause. If a black person says they dont give a fuck about a white person getting killed regardless of age, I blame it on the physchological effects of opression more than the person.

Not giving anyone an out, no one should be proud to lose their humanity. Im just saying I understand.

PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERBALIZED OPPRESSION

 

[Kwan Dai]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

 

[TheGOAT]

 

[D. Morgan]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

Exactly

 

[jono]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

This thread is about 30 murdered people, not your bullshit

You dont have statistics or any data to back this shit up.

Every thread ain't about what you think about white supremacy. If you don't care then bounce and call it a day.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

The problem is with you dudes the "support white supremacy indirectly" part comes down to them simply existing. What sense does it make to hate someone because of the consequences of things that may not even be in their control? What percentage of whites are out there actively opposing the progress and prosperity of blacks? You talking about facts, do you have numbers to support that? If not why are you so confident that the percentage is high enough to support blind hatred as being a reasonable stance to take?

 

[Kwan Dai]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

This thread is about 30 murdered people, not your bullshit

You dont have statistics or any data to back this shit up.

Every thread ain't about what you think about white supremacy. If you don't care then bounce and call it a day.

So, because you "care" your opinion matters more. STFU and take your own advice, bounce this thread aint about your bleeding heart.

 

[Trollio]

Tapdancing early

 

[jono]

to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

This isn't. People always want to act like our major issues stop at external strife. They don't. We catch a lot of shit from the outside, but let's be real, as a community, our real problem is lack of unity. If we had the kind of unity that they had in the 60s now, we'd be a lot better off.

Perhaps. Alot of if and stiffing going on. How about these if's?

If, they didn't kill MLK, X, and Hampton

If, we didn't need Brown vs. the board of education

If, they didn't target Black liberation\community organizations

If, they didn't create the projects for Blacks (removing Black men from the home) while giving whites low income home loans to build their communities.

If, if.........if..

Who is they? How many of those things did the average white person implement? So what does any of that have to do with being able to empathize with a white 5 y/o being killed in a horrible tragedy.

You guys seem to think that country's white supremacist infrastructure = every single white person alive. It doesn't, and black people who don't understand that are as dumb as the white people who support it even to their own detriment.

Wrong. What is factually correct is, the majority of whites have\do support white supremacy whether directly or indirectly. The number of whites who don't is negligible thus,it's pointless bringing them up.

This thread is about 30 murdered people, not your bullshit

You dont have statistics or any data to back this shit up.

Every thread ain't about what you think about white supremacy. If you don't care then bounce and call it a day.

So, because you "care" your opinion matters more. STFU and take your own advice, bounce this thread aint about your bleeding heart.

Whether I care or not is irrelevant. I'm not making this conversation about some shit its mot about.

 

[D. Morgan]

Tapdancing early NEVER STOPS

 

[HundredEyes]

Shit could have happened to each of us...basically the same shit I posted in the vegas thread...

Here is a comedic pov from a foreigner...short vid - in English - starts after 10 seconds