Tariq Nasheed pulls up on Tommy Sotomayor

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NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

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This literally makes no sense
 
JDSTAYWITIT;c-9553181 said:
NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

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This literally makes no sense

How not? Im no expert on dude. Honest question.
 
NoCompetition;c-9553185 said:
JDSTAYWITIT;c-9553181 said:
NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

NoCompetition;c-9553171 said:
I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.

patrice.png


This literally makes no sense

How not? Im no expert on dude. Honest question.

He don't fuck with either Hillary or Trump though. Didn't he just go on Fox News and call them out for their racism? So no he doesn't just go after democrats.
 
Bruhs.. I am wondering what the future of the conscious community is going to look like in the next few years. Niggas still out here on that y'all sleep and distracted shit but man everybody had a platform now. Dudes like Tariq and Tommy etc don't want to be called out on their bullshit but they will no matter what they do especially these days. When niggas in the conscious or whatever you want to call it community got to resort to running up on niggas for likes and retweets, you know there's a problem... Niggas out here acting like 50 and Ja but either or some black love shit or calling out "niggas" for doing dumb shit. Motherfuckers can't even come together on one accord to call out white supremacy or whatever case they're too busy fighting within their own bubble. I knew it was going to be a problem when mostly these social justice warriors started calling people hoteps as a diss for trying to give advice to black folks whether valid or not. Man this shit has to be cleaned up cause we got too many voices going in too many different directions. Tariq and Tommy are super corny but Tariq lost the most out of this whole thing. All he really did was gave Tommy more press and more listeners while helping Vlad get press and clicks too. I think he realized that he fucked up, maybe that's why he made that latest video. Unless.....

They're working together... I've heard people say that's what this possibly was smh.
 
Yesterday I spoke on the tribal mentality that leads to a lack of integrity. "If I rock with, I rock with you" is the motto too many of our people live by. Too many people got that mentality that if they "rock with" someone, they justify any BS they do or act incredulous (sp) to it. We know this. Dudes knocking up women not taking care of their responsibilities, chicks being sluts, juggling dudes using them etc. are not getting called out by their peers.

If people had integrity a brother claiming to be pro-black could never get away with these clear contradictions.

Tariq doing damage control now. He redefined "crispy" (=burned to a crisp) since I guess some of his followers called him out for that childish colorism he promotes. Now crispy means "ashy". It's in reference to someone's "skin texture" now ( guess the brother is a dermatologist now lol). You actually got people running with this weak attempt of a spin. People got no integrity. Now I see how that poster litterally changed the definition of "cooning" to excuse the man he follows. Now I see how Tariq spinned his embarassing appearance on Fox into a W on his podcasts. Similar to how a crackhead mayor could get back into the political arena after he got convicted for being a fiend. How faggot a#s Eddie Long got caught with boys, paid them off, but still had followers after that sh*t popped off. That tribal mentality and the lack of integrity is keeping people back...

jono;c-9553053 said:
5th Letter;c-9553042 said:
jono;c-9553022 said:
The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

And how many of them are locked up for said misconduct?

The DOJ looks into patterns of misconduct not isolated incidents and they are not involved with most criminal proceedings. That's why you have state and local law to enforce state and local law.

See, the mack daddy turned race hustler black intellectual is giving these smart dumb brothers (I'm not referring to @5th Letter eventhough we disagree on this subject) talking points. I've heard him say sh*t like "Race soldiers have infiltrated the police force"and "Obama hasn't done anything for black people" etc. That's an opinion. The problem lies in the fact the mack isn't an intellectual (but rather an opportunist), isn't educated to speak on these subjects (where's his titles, did the brother even finish college?) and these aren't well thought out thoughts. The brother takes small pieces of things people like Neely Fuller, Francess Cress Welsing and Claud Anderson said years ago and oversimplified it, making 'em more palatable to 'the masses' (ie smart dumb underachievers with a racial inferiority complex).

The brother can't even defend his own position, so how do you expects his followers who parrot the oversimplified talking points he spews to do so? It's the blind leading the blind. His incapability to articulate himself, formulate arguments like an adult and defend his own position on race issues when challenged became apparent when he embarassed himself on Tucker Carlson's show. He also looked bad on Dr Drew's show a few months ago BTW. That's why the brother has to resort to namecalling and schoolyard disses when he disagrees with people. That's his level...
 
semi-auto-mato;c-9553102 said:
wait..who told y'all the president has the power to prosecute? the president can pardon someone but he does not have the power to prosecute anyone. that is the same with governors as well. the prez might ask that an investigation be opened but that's as much as he can. he can ask for an investigation. pardon and prosecution are two different powers. one is granted to the office of the president and the other is not.

Stop posting with your emotions. You saying there's no hope for black people? Simpleton lol
 
why do people keep saying Obama signed the blue lives matter bill? Obama signed the blue alert bill that calls for an alert system like amber alert for criminals that shoot police. they haven't created the system yet and im not saying it will work but its way different than the blue lives matter bill which will make it a hate crime to hurt cops. that bill still hasn't made it thru congress. it might and if it does Trump will be the prez that signs it not Obama.
 
o and Obama also signed a bill limiting military style equipment cops can use when it comes to handling riots and stuff. that bill gets no press at all.
 
jono;c-9553022 said:
The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

Aggressive? Negro please. Them DOJ investigations are a complete dog & pony show. How many DOJ investigations lead to anything? Even when it was clear as DAY the police covered up for & LIED, these investigations never amount to anythanything. Obama ain't shit either
 
semi-auto-mato;c-9553102 said:
wait..who told y'all the president has the power to prosecute? the president can pardon someone but he does not have the power to prosecute anyone. that is the same with governors as well. the prez might ask that an investigation be opened but that's as much as he can. he can ask for an investigation. pardon and prosecution are two different powers. one is granted to the office of the president and the other is not.

True. But can't he put forth laws that make it harder for police corruption & brutality to occur? I mean if he can put forth laws that allow grown azz men to walk into little girls bathrooms, I'm sure he can hold cops more accountable

 
blackamerica;c-9553266 said:
semi-auto-mato;c-9553102 said:
wait..who told y'all the president has the power to prosecute? the president can pardon someone but he does not have the power to prosecute anyone. that is the same with governors as well. the prez might ask that an investigation be opened but that's as much as he can. he can ask for an investigation. pardon and prosecution are two different powers. one is granted to the office of the president and the other is not.

True. But can't he put forth laws that make it harder for police corruption & brutality to occur? I mean if he can put forth laws that allow grown azz men to walk into little girls bathrooms, I'm sure he can hold cops more accountable

simple answer is no. the president cannot put forth a bill. he can however get a member of congress to submit a bill and then congress could vote on it. obamacare wasn't submitted by Obama. Charles Rangol started that ball to rolling and Obama signed it into law.

in short we blame the president for a bunch of stuff he realistically cant do.
 
Getting tired of these people only going after coons. Going after coons = going after soft targets. The majority of the people that are labeled coons are more sellouts, Uncle Toms or Sambo's anyway. Whatever you wanna call 'em, these people will not 'get gangsta' when they get namecalled, slandered or embarassed. More often than not, they won't even respond. They don't have to keep that 'streetrep' up for brothers, since they get paid by their white handlers and not the brothers anyway. If anything, opposion from the black community only makes them more popular among their white handlers. They're "one of the good ones", "telling it how it is". They're their pets. They like you when you do or say something they agree with, but you're "just like the rest of them" when you do or say something they don't like. These people kiss their dogs in their mouth, allow them in their houses, even have them sitting @ tables when they're having dinner, but watch what happens when that dog bites their child. He gets put down, quick. Ask Bill Cosby what happened when he served his purpose (FYI I agreed with some of what he said about the blac community). Ask OJ. Ask Herman Cain.

You complain about this "system of white supremacy" that doesn't let brothers and sisters sustain unless they follow it. Fight that system and stop fighting the hired help. lol @ The idea of Django only fighting against Stephen and Sheba but not Calvin Candy and them.

Going after coons or bedwenches = bullying since they won't fight back and are the hired help. Go after that white supremacy you always complain about. Use racist slurs for these Jews like you do for other blacks. See of they won't shut you down.

a.mann;c-9553094 said:
jono;c-9553022 said:
The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

That's my main gripe with guys like Traiq,Umar,Walkins,Griff etc .... they (intentionally) simplify issues that are far more complex than...well black & white. And they do this because it's financial expedient to them

Yes,they may do a lot of good,but they also exploit the black community's anger,frustration,fear and paranoia to fatten their bank accounts

So you have (mainly) young and low educated black people believing that if President Obama only would have did THIS racist white people wouldn't act out on their hatred for us

Because it's not about finding solutions. It's about you - the mark - paying them.

 
SuperManuel;c-9552835 said:
Undefeatable;c-9552543 said:
I keep seeing people mentioning this dude (Tariq), Umar Johnson, Frances Cress Welsing, Phil Valentine and people of this ilk.

Do people not realize that these are not serious intellectuals and that real, serious black intellectuals do not take them seriously?

It just seems like only certain charlatans get noticed and venerated. Why? Why idolize the Frances Cress Welsings of the world but not truly distinguished people like William J. Wilson, John Hope Franklin, Cornel West, or even Michael Eric Dyson?

Shut up crispy!

Did I mention that I was talking about in real life? Cause its kinda hard to do anything through the computer screen.

And smh @ the people who gave positive reactions to this. This proves that y'all and the poster who posted it are not even remotely conscious people.
 
blackamerica;c-9553260 said:
jono;c-9553022 said:
The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

Aggressive? Negro please. Them DOJ investigations are a complete dog & pony show. How many DOJ investigations lead to anything? Even when it was clear as DAY the police covered up for & LIED, these investigations never amount to anythanything. Obama ain't shit either

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5th Letter;c-9553163 said:
a.mann;c-9553093 said:
5th Letter;c-9552974 said:
a.mann;c-9552970 said:
WTH??

No president should have the unilateral power to force the attorney general prosecute citizens

Do you even understand the precedent that will set when inevitably a president (e.g. Trump)

gets into office who does NOT share your political & social views???

You cats love to go on & on about people being in their "emotions " but being overly emotional is why you can't see the wisdom as to WHY Obama did not tie the black community's plight to that of special laws,Executive Orders etc ""specifically" benefiting ONLY black people.

All that shit can be easily and legally over turned and taken away by the next Administration and Congress

Which is why Obama worked outside of Presidential office to directly help the community, with initiative like My Brother Keepers, job & tech training programs etc,etc

So you're saying there was absolutely zero things Obama could do to protect black people from race soldiers? Nothing at all? But this guy can sign off on Blue Lives Matter bills right after those cops got murdered in Dallas and Louisiana?

umm....

Okay, let me try it this way

Say YOU are President of a country where people of your (dark/brown) complexion is only 12.2% of the total population of 308,745,538 million

There are "Hate Crime" laws already on the books....So as President what other special Law, policy, legislation or Executive Order issued can REALLY protect us from 223,553,265 plus

"race soldiers " that have infiltrated EVERY facet of government,law,juridical,educational,housing institutions etc??

Exactly.

If black people are such a small group that it makes no sense to do specific things for them then why was Obama telling black people to go vote? Why pander for votes from such a small group? If he's pandering for our votes, then why is it wrong to ask for specific things? Why is it blasphemous in y'all eyes to question certain things? To your second point police already has protection yet that didn't stop Obama from passing a blue lives matter bill. Exactly.

Oh the irony of this....lol

And no, I NEVER said you shouldn't ask questions

But trying to hold one man accountable to for the racist shit and asking why HE didn't do more to solve the racial divide...? C'mon

Concerning the Blue Lives matter Bill....THAT is what you want him to do? You think THAT is going to deter [people from killing cops?

How many cops have been killed since it was sign?????

Exactly

But THAT is what you and others want Obama to do ...sign some empty ultimately meaningless Bill that wont solve a damn thing???

Even as you ridicule him for "pandering"???

 
Niggas reached so hard in this thread and pulled a fast one...

Took comments out of context and basically created a false argument....I'm still trying to figure out who called him an intellectual???

 
Notice how these dusty hotep niggas do nothing more than pontificate long ass drawn out intellectually dishonest drivel about how this person is a detriment to you and that person is manipulating you yet they never have any solutions nor actions for anything aside from serving as a contrarian..

...it's something that I've noticed in this thread and in general with these kinds of negros ...a bunch of long winded time wasters ...you'll never get them articulating what they are actually doing for the community at large whether it be macro or micro ...you'll never get them to expunge on actual practical counter actions that need to be taken in order to advance the community vs the ones the tirelessly decry ...all you'll get is circular logic about how they are right because they say they are right ...these people are often sieves and they have been around the commmunity for decades ....just as there were negros who called MLK troublesome for galvanizing the community such as George Schuyler ... a lot of these dudes are of no consequence...they will continue to contribute nothing but have the most to say ...But you do have some who unfortunately gain a platform and participate in the suppressing of progress made within the community ...which is just some sad shit ...but it is a reality
 
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Undefeatable;c-9553314 said:
SuperManuel;c-9552835 said:
Undefeatable;c-9552543 said:
I keep seeing people mentioning this dude (Tariq), Umar Johnson, Frances Cress Welsing, Phil Valentine and people of this ilk.

Do people not realize that these are not serious intellectuals and that real, serious black intellectuals do not take them seriously?

It just seems like only certain charlatans get noticed and venerated. Why? Why idolize the Frances Cress Welsings of the world but not truly distinguished people like William J. Wilson, John Hope Franklin, Cornel West, or even Michael Eric Dyson?

Shut up crispy!

Did I mention that I was talking about in real life? Cause its kinda hard to do anything through the computer screen.

And smh @ the people who gave positive reactions to this. This proves that y'all and the poster who posted it are not even remotely conscious people.

Calm down crispy it ain't that serious
 
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a.mann;c-9553334 said:
5th Letter;c-9553163 said:
a.mann;c-9553093 said:
5th Letter;c-9552974 said:
a.mann;c-9552970 said:
WTH??

No president should have the unilateral power to force the attorney general prosecute citizens

Do you even understand the precedent that will set when inevitably a president (e.g. Trump)

gets into office who does NOT share your political & social views???

You cats love to go on & on about people being in their "emotions " but being overly emotional is why you can't see the wisdom as to WHY Obama did not tie the black community's plight to that of special laws,Executive Orders etc ""specifically" benefiting ONLY black people.

All that shit can be easily and legally over turned and taken away by the next Administration and Congress

Which is why Obama worked outside of Presidential office to directly help the community, with initiative like My Brother Keepers, job & tech training programs etc,etc

So you're saying there was absolutely zero things Obama could do to protect black people from race soldiers? Nothing at all? But this guy can sign off on Blue Lives Matter bills right after those cops got murdered in Dallas and Louisiana?

umm....

Okay, let me try it this way

Say YOU are President of a country where people of your (dark/brown) complexion is only 12.2% of the total population of 308,745,538 million

There are "Hate Crime" laws already on the books....So as President what other special Law, policy, legislation or Executive Order issued can REALLY protect us from 223,553,265 plus

"race soldiers " that have infiltrated EVERY facet of government,law,juridical,educational,housing institutions etc??

Exactly.

If black people are such a small group that it makes no sense to do specific things for them then why was Obama telling black people to go vote? Why pander for votes from such a small group? If he's pandering for our votes, then why is it wrong to ask for specific things? Why is it blasphemous in y'all eyes to question certain things? To your second point police already has protection yet that didn't stop Obama from passing a blue lives matter bill. Exactly.

Oh the irony of this....lol

And no, I NEVER said you shouldn't ask questions

But trying to hold one man accountable to for the racist shit and asking why HE didn't do more to solve the racial divide...? C'mon

Concerning the Blue Lives matter Bill....THAT is what you want him to do? You think THAT is going to deter [people from killing cops?

How many cops have been killed since it was sign?????

Exactly

But THAT is what you and others want Obama to do ...sign some empty ultimately meaningless Bill that wont solve a damn thing???

Even as you ridicule him for "pandering"???

There is no irony y'all have a right to not agree with whatever Nasheed says. I'm not making him responsible for the racial divide, that divide has existed since before he was even born. The problem is that we are asking for justice we need policy's in place that will punish these race soldiers. I used the blue lives matter bill as a counter to your claim of hate crime laws being in place. And somehow despite that we still are getting slaughtered and they don't get punished.
 
jono;c-9553326 said:
blackamerica;c-9553260 said:
jono;c-9553022 said:
The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

Aggressive? Negro please. Them DOJ investigations are a complete dog & pony show. How many DOJ investigations lead to anything? Even when it was clear as DAY the police covered up for & LIED, these investigations never amount to anythanything. Obama ain't shit either

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Cool now post the stats for CRIMINAL investigations

You know, the investigations that lead to ACTUAL JAIL TIME
 

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