pothead420
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amazing thread
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Another flaw in your opinion is this, using your logic criminals/felons would almost never go to prison because their excuse would always be that "I needed a gun because my homie got killed" or "I feared for my life." As understandable as that may be in a lot of cases, that shit don't mean anything when the sentencing guidelines are what the prosecutor & the judge MUST go by. Again, the only way around the mandatory minimums is that the defendant must cooperate/assist the prosecutors with a cases or cases that they feel are of much greater importance than yours is to them. No amount of community service, fines, probation,etc makes up for the prison time that is mandated by lawmakers. Using your logic & the logic of others the judge & prosecutors violated the law in giving T.I. this deal. It would mean that they refused to follow the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. Is that what you & others believe that they did???? Please!!!!headshots;908404 said:
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pothead420
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lmao ya niggas think the goverment gives a fuck about black ppl period? let alone a succesful one with a large audience?????? lmaoooooo da stupidity in here is amazing yo
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I stand corrected. trying to work & get y'all niggaz to be logical at the same time. No my math didn't add up, but your whole logic does not add up. It's as simple as this, T.I. ain't so special that a judge & the prosecutor would be willing to risk their careers & freedom by going against mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines to make a deal to an 8 time felon. Again you win on my math being wrong. It would actually 37.5 40 hour work weeks which is around 9 months of community service. Either way you look at it it's still a far cry away from an at least 20 year sentence "Nigga!!" LOL!goat334;909139 said:
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If I can't read nor won't read then neither will you, because you refuse to read the sentencing guideline for a felon in possesion of a fire arm. This guy is an 8 time felon who had more than one gun. He was to be charged with every gun he had......and what about the silencers & what about the fact that his shit was machine guns?? Why would they just forget about those violations?? You are not being logical at all!!goat334;909113 said:
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You think the words guilty is the only thing they care about or have a responsibility to get?? They have a responsibility to sentence guilty people to what the sentencing guidelines require them to. No amount of community service, fines, speeches, probation, etc can override the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines. T.I. is counting on most of the young & naive folk who know nothing about the sentencing guidelines to believe his story. The guidelines don't move son at all.....unless you "play ball" with the prosecutor then the have justification to reduce charges & offer deals, but otherwise your sentence will be what the guidelines require.goat334;909104 said:
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tab58064;909218 said:
But he is special enough or got enough money to be able to hide the info that he snitched(Not saying he did) on PUBLIC Records.....The Link has been provided throughout the thread........
LOL at Judges freedom by going against mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines to make a deal to an 8 time felon..........shit they do that all the time...A judge can decide the sentence, that's part of their job........LOL its just a guide line.....
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truewarrior
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tab58064;906931 said:
Nigga all your facts is wrong show me the evidence that he snitched instead of providing bullshit
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Stew
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If OJ can get off why the fuck TI can't? I thought everyone knew money rules the world. Granted he his a felon but he had another plus in being able to change some kids lives which is a lot more important whether you wanna believe it or not then him doing 20 yrs in prison. How many ppl do u know in his position that got busted like that? How many other cats do you know has Lyor Cohen and the Atlantic Records legal staff on his side. They bailed the dude out for 3 milli!!! You think they didn't think they had an opportunity for him to come back and rap for that type of money?
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thedesolateone
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who did ti snitch on?where is the paperwork?not saying a healthy dose of paranoia isnt good.i wouldnt buy kilos or guns from him but what evidence better yet proof is there?
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Yungin T. Jeezie
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pothead420;909155 said:
props dawg, you still post in the donkey?
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rapmastermind
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T.I.'s Sentence
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These Guns
= Something ain't adding up folks
Again I don't want to say he snitched but the fact is it looks like he DID and that's his problem. The streets have spoken which is why T.I. is still answering questions about "Snitchin" instead of talking about his up and coming album. The fact an informant was caught in his group did help his story it only futhered the rumors. The "T.I.P." tip line didn't help either. Look it is what it is. Like I said, I don't believe he did but the situation looks so damn suspect I can see why the streets and many fans are sayin he did.
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These Guns
= Something ain't adding up folks
Again I don't want to say he snitched but the fact is it looks like he DID and that's his problem. The streets have spoken which is why T.I. is still answering questions about "Snitchin" instead of talking about his up and coming album. The fact an informant was caught in his group did help his story it only futhered the rumors. The "T.I.P." tip line didn't help either. Look it is what it is. Like I said, I don't believe he did but the situation looks so damn suspect I can see why the streets and many fans are sayin he did.
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He's doing fine the last time I checked, but all it takes is for one noteworthy person to really challenge T.I.'s explaination & sentence & I promise you that he will have some major problems trying to maintain his image/street cred & his career. People just don't understand how the law works in cases like this. Again, what the lawmakers say you SHALL get for the crime you committed SHALL be the time that you will get. If the mandatory minimum for a crime is 4-7 years you can count on doing at least 4 years. The only wiggle room given to a judge in this instance is to give you anywhere between the 4 & 7 years. Deals are made in cases like this only if the defendant helps prosecutors. A lot of y'all got a lot of time on your hands so I dare anyone of y'all to pick up a phone & call a good attorney who handles federal cases and give him a scenerio like T.I.'s and ask him would anyone be eligible for a deal like that without having to cooperate with the prosecution! You won't be happy with his answer I promise.rip.dilla;908570 said:
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Yo, son you don't know what the hell your talking about. Haven't you read or heard of judges complaining about how they don't have any discretion when it comes to sentencing cases that require them to follow the mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines?? Judge Mathis speaks about this all the time. Do some homework before speaking on things you know nothing about. How about using google to at least learn what Mandatory Minimum Sentencing means since you don't understand the definition of each word. Lawmakers tell judges what they HAVE TO sentence folk for certain crimes & posession of a fire arm by a felon is one of them. He can have all the money in the world, but when you have no defense to a case & admit guilt you can't avoid the sentencing guidelines unless you cooperate.goat334;909300 said:
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truewarrior
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Max-b;909888 said:
Wow youngin cut bullshit
Im gon shoot at you and your friends while yall unarmed and kill your best friend I get caught and you have the chance to put me away and you not gon do it for the code of the streets NIGGA PLEASE
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T. Sanford
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mr hd;3782428 said:
I forgot I made this thread. You're a real nigga for upping this
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