Mr. 66Hundred
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I'm glad Superman ain't blacc cuz I wouldn't want that nigga showin up an hour late to save people smh
nujerz84;4468728 said:
Your reasoning has several inconsistencies. Firstly, Krypton is described as a crystalline cold planet. Why would there be dark skinned Kryptonians. It doesn't make sense biologically speaking sense dark skinned people originate in tropical climates. I see DC will get a pass for all of their inconsistencies though. I only brought up the science behind it to circumvent anyone running behind it.
However, we'll let this enter into the debate. There are black and asian kryptonians. *looked it up* the black 'race' of kryptonians is a highly advanced culture of people who are hardly ever mentioned. I bet that the average person who possesses general knowledge about superman would hardly think of the concept 'black kryptonians' why should they. They are hardly ever mentioned in continuity,even though this is supposed to be a great race of people they are mostly sidlined and kept on the periphery.
Which segues into my next point.
@nujerz84 I did make this thread to address this perception of the european god/devil complex. I chose to address it on a scientific plane first so there would be no room to rise above.
That's established. Can't be denied.
So with that let's address the crux of the matter. it is obvious to see that the phenotype make up of major comic book heroes that europeans believe themselves to be the only ones worthy/able/capable of carrying the mantle of world savior. This is in spite of the fact that much of the classic superheroes are based off of greek mythology which is ripped off african allegory, khemten to be specific. All other heroes who are non white play a periphery role at best.
What's even worse, are characters who should be distinctly African in nature but are europeanized or otherized. Classic examples are Black Adam and Storm.
Black Adam whose powers are derived from the 'Egyptian' gods is some light skinned non racial looking guy when he should be distinctly African based on his origins.
Storm has been written and retconned and drawn it's beyond ridiculous.
I can go on and on about Black superheroes, but I want to keep the focus where it's at.
The major heroes in both major companies are generally white or european. These characters are used to
propagate the myth of white savior.
Superman fighting the truth justice and the american way
Wonderwoman the ultimate symbolism of female empowerment
Batman the perpetual avenger
Flash
Green Lantern the space cowboy
The list goes on. Perhaps this conversation is too big to be held to a simple thread regarding one character.
however superman, being the first major superhero is the symbol for all heroes. That symbolism is full of stolen african legacy refaced with european countenance
PublicEnemigo1;4469220 said:
You just ethered your whole argument....in bolded if Krypton is a cold planet as you state and again Superman parents are lilly white then he would not be black period end of any arguement.
You established nothing scientifcally other than looking stupid by trying to apply earth science to made up planet that even if it exists would be far advance for any science on planet earth to use.
That even if you want to use science....Cold artic Climate, White Parents= White Child.... or the fact that white people do have melanin and regardless how much the stay out in the sun they do not turn black.
Now if you want to talk of comics using there influence to enforce European or white supremeacy etc then yes thats valid.
As for black adam dude looked tanned to me not a white boy at all but perhaps he was not drawn that way when he first introduced.
^ he dont look white to me and there a reason Dwayne Johnson been linked to play him on film.
AS for superman being stolen african legacy...I highly doubt the creators of Superman had any idea or knowledge of anything african to steal from as such knowledge was never taught in any school to begin with.
Even more so around the time Superman was created.
In essence in your post you pretty much confirmed what I originally stated.
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nujerz84;4469285 said:PublicEnemigo1;4469220 said:
You just ethered your whole argument....in bolded if Krypton is a cold planet as you state and again Superman parents are lilly white then he would not be black period end of any arguement.
You established nothing scientifcally other than looking stupid by trying to apply earth science to made up planet that even if it exists would be far advance for any science on planet earth to use.
That even if you want to use science....Cold artic Climate, White Parents= White Child.... or the fact that white people do have melanin and regardless how much the stay out in the sun they do not turn black.
Now if you want to talk of comics using there influence to enforce European or white supremeacy etc then yes thats valid.
As for black adam dude looked tanned to me not a white boy at all but perhaps he was not drawn that way when he first introduced.
^ he dont look white to me and there a reason Dwayne Johnson been linked to play him on film.
AS for superman being stolen african legacy...I highly doubt the creators of Superman had any idea or knowledge of anything african to steal from as such knowledge was never taught in any school to begin with.
Even more so around the time Superman was created.
In essence in your post you pretty much confirmed what I originally stated.
I didn't ether my argument I just let your inconsistency stand for the sake of progressing the narrative.
Even if Superman came from 'white' parentage there is no way that his on his coming to earth and absorbing the amount of sun he needs to manifest and control his abilities his skin would stay depigmented.
melanin is the only substance outside of chlorophyll that allows for the absorbing storage of solar radiation. Just as chlorophyll, melanin manifests this ability by the darkening of the skin. So superman being from the parentage that he is was born a mortal and before his powers came to be he had to absorb a certain amount of yellow sun which means that for a time he was vulnerable to the effects thereof until he a certain point in which his invulnerability
kicked in. By the time supermans' power manifested he would have looked like this broad
Because his melanin is the only way he can absorb and store that energy in abundance for powers to come about.
As far as Black Adam. He's not some tannish looking dude. He is a dark skinned African if pulling from origin. Egyptians weren't people with golden tans they were dark skinned. So what you have Dwayne's racially ambiguous self playing him? What does that have to do with anything besides using mediums to tell lies and cover up truth. Which was common knowledge among archeologists that Egypts kingdoms were dark skinned people, but academic racism overrode and people wholesale rewrote khmeten history even changing the name of the people to egytpian.
It wasnt common knowledge that all Ancient Egyptians were nubians which is why today there still discussion among schloars about it... there plenty of ancient artifacts and herioglyphics that suggest that there were a mixture of different skin color to suggest they were all entirely black is just as absurd to say they were all white or tanned.
IF we are pulling from orign there evidence from actual artifacts and tombs to suggest he could be light tanned just as much as he could be nubian.
Superman orign of stregth has changed several times throuought his history more commonly that the his source of strenght was due to the gravity levels on Krypton being much stronger than that of Earth.
And again you are juding Superman as if hes a human being he is not hes a fictonal advanced alienbeing that is not bound by any earthly science or natural law.
That woman skin is a result of over tanning in a tanning booth... Superman does not need to lay down to catch the suns rays like a human would when tanning to get his strength...
Another thing based from the comics that ethers your point
Supergirl (came to earth as teenager) and many other Kryponians fully adult who visited earth immediatley displayed and showcased Superman powers and abilities within minutes of being under the earth sun for the first time ever so that shits on any point you want to make of that they have to be under the sun for a long time to get there power.
Again it boils down to trying to apply science to a fictonal character on some pro black reasoning.
Which again confirms what I said originally you made this thread cuz u mad Superman is white and not black get over it.
IF we are pulling from orign there evidence from actual artifacts and tombs to suggest he could be light tanned just as much as he could be nubian.
Superman orign of stregth has changed several times throuought his history more commonly that the his source of strenght was due to the gravity levels on Krypton being much stronger than that of Earth.
And again you are juding Superman as if hes a human being he is not hes a fictonal advanced alienbeing that is not bound by any earthly science or natural law.
That woman skin is a result of over tanning in a tanning booth... Superman does not need to lay down to catch the suns rays like a human would when tanning to get his strength...
Another thing based from the comics that ethers your point
Supergirl (came to earth as teenager) and many other Kryponians fully adult who visited earth immediatley displayed and showcased Superman powers and abilities within minutes of being under the earth sun for the first time ever so that shits on any point you want to make of that they have to be under the sun for a long time to get there power.
Again it boils down to trying to apply science to a fictonal character on some pro black reasoning.
Which again confirms what I said originally you made this thread cuz u mad Superman is white and not black get over it.
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Bender Rodriguez
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wait wait wait wait...why we applying real world logic to aliens that fly faster then the speed of light and can lift quadtrillions of tons with one hand??? WTF
Knives Amilli
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Although his creators were poor Jewish kids from Cleveland and Supes is actually based on the story of Moses, Superman really "shouldn't" be any race. But I really DGAF that he's a cracka as his "race" has never had any bearing on me liking his stories, though I do recognize the importance of kids having heroes they relate too.
Bender Rodriguez;4469550 said:
Because science and science fiction live in a yin and yang type sphere.
If one creates a fictional human being then one wonders how can we actually make this happen.
Hence why most explanation for superhuman powers is some quasi scientific explanation.
@nujerz84 It had been common knowledge the realities of who the khemetens were. People knew these things long ago. As I said before it was hidden from common knowledge because the myth of the world is the inherent greatness and superiority of europeans and the inherent inferiority of dark skinned Africans.
Europeans/Greeks didn't get to Khemet until at least 327 BCE, this is long after the height of Khemeten civilization.
You state that superman is a human being is a fictional alien being not bound by terrestial laws and physics however his design and anatomy are bound by the imaginations of his creators so much so that he doesn't naturally display superhuman abilities on krypton he does not have x-ray vision, his hearing is normal subject to gravity, so it is only natural that he is subject to a plethora of things regular people are subject to.
If we're talking about how supergirl and other kryptonians displayed superhuman abilities immediately let's chalk that up to writer inconsistency. Because superman has also shown a decrease in power when deprived of yellow sun, and also needing the aid of the yellow sun in order to regenerate.
The consistency among writers is that the messiah and his foil must be a male with european characteristics and countenance.
Knives Amilli;4469941 said:
The story of moses is stolen and reworked khemetan history when the hyksos the so called ancestors of the jews were driven out of lower khemet after coming and taking over for about 200 years. They were driven out by a man called Ahmose. See where Moses come from? That man became the next pharaoh of Khemet and began the 18th dynasty.
Melanin_Enriched
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If superman was black he would have died in the corn fields. You think some farm crackas gonna take a nigga orphan in?
PublicEnemigo1;4476402 said:
It shows consitences that again disproves ur theory that Kryptonian only need to be exposed to Earth Sun for a second to display Superman abilties.
It was already revealed Superman does not absorb Sunlight thru his skin to dismiss this and jewels dropped disproving thread due to some Pro Black shit..is as if Im talking to wall and nothing than trolling.
And just proves what I said before regarding Superman being white..
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nujerz84;4476473 said:
IDGAF what writers say because their shit don't flow smooth to begin with. I'm saying that there tales cause a lack of suspension of belief and here's why.
Even imagination is grounded in some type of logic and Superman's story isn't which is why his shit gets retconned and rebooted all the time. 80 years worth of bullshit history and powers.
nujerz84;4476533 said:
I didn't prove your point I proved mine. If Superman were written with any type of foundation in any logic besides 'we wanna make the strongest guy ever' then everything I said would come to pass by law of inevitability.
Since he isn't he's just the personification of the euro god complex with no basis for such beliefs his shit don't make sense and never will.
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