@rage
melanin is a universal element.
I never said I wanted credit for anything, I just said my reasoning is more logical than the creators of the character and his origins.
You're sounding really butt hurt right now. It's ok though. Welcome to the age of reclamation
This is also true. I heard it through a grape vine that jack kirby (creator of BP) studied a group called the Black Panther Society which informed him of much the culture and traditions that BP is written with. The BPS are supposed to ninjas for real for real.
melanin is a universal element.
I never said I wanted credit for anything, I just said my reasoning is more logical than the creators of the character and his origins.
You're sounding really butt hurt right now. It's ok though. Welcome to the age of reclamation
gns;4455224 said:
This is also true. I heard it through a grape vine that jack kirby (creator of BP) studied a group called the Black Panther Society which informed him of much the culture and traditions that BP is written with. The BPS are supposed to ninjas for real for real.
Oh yea I already copped that back in the day. I remember the whole controversy around it. Marvel quietly buried that character though.
I have a couple of theories on why there should be way more darker hued super power beings than any other shade. Dealing with the pineal gland and pineal gland calcification.
I have a couple of theories on why there should be way more darker hued super power beings than any other shade. Dealing with the pineal gland and pineal gland calcification.
@rage
Let me be clear when I say element I mean that melanin is one of the foundational properties found all throughout the universe. I'm sorry you weren't taught this in high school, but I like to think education extends well beyond class room walls.
Sorry I can't take credit it's not MY proof, just things I've read.
Here is text:Melanin the secret of the Universe
Few people know that Melanin is found in almost every organ of the body and is necessary in order for the brain and nerves to operate, the eyes to see, and the cells to reproduce!
Thus, Melanin is vastly more than just a "pigment" coloring the skin and hair. At the core of your brain is the "locus coeruleus," a structure that is BLACK because it contains large amounts of Melanin which is essential in order for it to operate! In fact, all the most crucial brain structures are heavily melanized! "Brain melanin is concentrated in a region that functions as a gate for all sensory, motor, emotional and motivational input and output" as well as a region that mediates conscious awareness in general. Dr. Richard King considers the presence of Melanin to be a key agent in heightening psychic sensitivity in the human organism. Dr. Frank Barr suggests (neuro)Melanin may join forces with the glial cells (formerly seen as only the 'glue' of the nervous system) to form a subtly triggered matrix for mental organization that is, the "mind's eye."
Melanin in the Brain increases from the lower
primates and reaches its peak in the BLACK HUMAN..
"All humans possess this Black internal brain evidence of their common Black Afrikan Origin. The All Black neuromelanin nerve tract of the brain is profound proof that the human race is a Black race, with many variations of Black, from Black-Black to White-Black, all internally rooted in a vast sea of Brain Blackness."
"Humanity may differ in outer appearance, with variations of colors but internally they are all black, all African at the core. The question for all humans is how to relate to this blackness. A transformation process requires, first, the right heart or feelings and profound African knowledge as taught in ancient African universities. Today's racist is afraid, ignorant of his/her blackness, choosing to run from the ancestral Black core. Today's reborn black masters will accept their blackness, become unified with the universe and be inspired to creative genius at levels that surpass the pyramids."
Dr. Richard King
African Origin of Biological Psychiatry (p31, 24)
Melanin is found everywhere, throughout Nature...
.
in animals, plants (that's why raisins and banana bruises are brown), the soil, waters of creeks, lakes, seas, and even in comets! Concentrations vary from parts per million to parts per billion, and it is soluble in liquid phases.
.
Melanin is necessary for humans to reproduce!
.
Melanin is abundantly present at the inception of life: a Melanin sheath covers both the sperm and the egg! In the human embryo, the melanocytes (skin pigment cells), the brain, and the nerve cells all originate from the same place; the neural crest. Melanocytes resemble nerve cells and are essential for conveying energy. When the presence of Melanin is missing or insufficient in the ectoderm, this causes the mother to lose her baby; in the case of all whites, a defective baby is produced.
.
Melanin is the major organizing molecule in living systems
.
Dr. Frank Barr, pioneering discoverer of Melanin's organizing ability and other properties, opens his technical work, Melanin: The Organizing Molecule: "The hypothesis is advanced that (neuro)melanin (in conjunction with other pigment molecules such as the isopentenoids) functions as the major organizational molecule in living systems. Melanin is depicted as an organizational "trigger" capable of using established properties such as photon- (electron)- photon conversions, free radical-redox mechanism, ion exchange mechanisms, ion exchange mechanisms, and semiconductive switching capabilities to direct energy to strategic molecular systems and sensitive hierarchies of protein enzyme cascades. Melanin is held capable of regulating a wide range of molecular interactions and metabolic processes..."
.
Melanin's Main Properties: It absorbs, stores & transforms energy. It has "black hole" properties.
.
Black Melanin can convert light energy to sound energy and back again!
Melanin is BLACK because its chemical structure allows no energy to escape. It is also Black because Black is the perfect absorber of light and all energy frequencies, making Black Melanin the super absorber of Energy and Light! Thus scientists describe it as acting like a "black hole."
Melanin can rearrange its chemical structure to absorb ALL energy across the radiant energy spectrum (sunlight, X-rays, music, sound, radar, radio waves...) and can transmute and store this energy for later use!
Melanin can absorb a great amount of energy and yet not produce a tremendous amount of heat when it absorbs this energy, because it can transform harmful energy into useful energy. According to Dr. Leon Edelstein*, Melanin can absorb tremendous quantities of energy of all kinds, including energy from sunlight, x-ray machines, and energy that is formed within cells during the metabolism of cells. He theorizes that Melanin has the ability to neutralize the potentially harmful effects of these energies.
In Dr. Frank Barr's theory, matter is shaped and structured by light: that is, matter is organized through the interaction of molecules composed of slowed-down light. These molecular [Melanin] combinations "eat" light in order to maintain, expand and evolve matter. The more highly evolved a species, the more complex its biological capacity to use light.
Melanin has superconducting properties; it shows evidence of being a room-temperature (biological) super-conductor. Normally, superconductivity occurs only at very low temperatures.
Melanin is like a battery. Melanin "may be viewed as a battery that is partially charged and can always accept an electrical charge!"
1 When sunlight or other energy comes in contact with the Melanin battery, it increases the charge of the battery to a certain degree. When the energy is captured, the battery has more energy to use in the body. "This means that the BLACK HUMAN can charge up his MELANIN just by being in the sun or around the right type of musical sounds or other energy sources."
2 Melanin in the eye receives light and converts it into the electrical energy that comes across as an image.
Let me be clear when I say element I mean that melanin is one of the foundational properties found all throughout the universe. I'm sorry you weren't taught this in high school, but I like to think education extends well beyond class room walls.
Sorry I can't take credit it's not MY proof, just things I've read.
Here is text:Melanin the secret of the Universe
Few people know that Melanin is found in almost every organ of the body and is necessary in order for the brain and nerves to operate, the eyes to see, and the cells to reproduce!
Thus, Melanin is vastly more than just a "pigment" coloring the skin and hair. At the core of your brain is the "locus coeruleus," a structure that is BLACK because it contains large amounts of Melanin which is essential in order for it to operate! In fact, all the most crucial brain structures are heavily melanized! "Brain melanin is concentrated in a region that functions as a gate for all sensory, motor, emotional and motivational input and output" as well as a region that mediates conscious awareness in general. Dr. Richard King considers the presence of Melanin to be a key agent in heightening psychic sensitivity in the human organism. Dr. Frank Barr suggests (neuro)Melanin may join forces with the glial cells (formerly seen as only the 'glue' of the nervous system) to form a subtly triggered matrix for mental organization that is, the "mind's eye."
Melanin in the Brain increases from the lower
primates and reaches its peak in the BLACK HUMAN..
"All humans possess this Black internal brain evidence of their common Black Afrikan Origin. The All Black neuromelanin nerve tract of the brain is profound proof that the human race is a Black race, with many variations of Black, from Black-Black to White-Black, all internally rooted in a vast sea of Brain Blackness."
"Humanity may differ in outer appearance, with variations of colors but internally they are all black, all African at the core. The question for all humans is how to relate to this blackness. A transformation process requires, first, the right heart or feelings and profound African knowledge as taught in ancient African universities. Today's racist is afraid, ignorant of his/her blackness, choosing to run from the ancestral Black core. Today's reborn black masters will accept their blackness, become unified with the universe and be inspired to creative genius at levels that surpass the pyramids."
Dr. Richard King
African Origin of Biological Psychiatry (p31, 24)
Melanin is found everywhere, throughout Nature...
.
in animals, plants (that's why raisins and banana bruises are brown), the soil, waters of creeks, lakes, seas, and even in comets! Concentrations vary from parts per million to parts per billion, and it is soluble in liquid phases.
.
Melanin is necessary for humans to reproduce!
.
Melanin is abundantly present at the inception of life: a Melanin sheath covers both the sperm and the egg! In the human embryo, the melanocytes (skin pigment cells), the brain, and the nerve cells all originate from the same place; the neural crest. Melanocytes resemble nerve cells and are essential for conveying energy. When the presence of Melanin is missing or insufficient in the ectoderm, this causes the mother to lose her baby; in the case of all whites, a defective baby is produced.
.
Melanin is the major organizing molecule in living systems
.
Dr. Frank Barr, pioneering discoverer of Melanin's organizing ability and other properties, opens his technical work, Melanin: The Organizing Molecule: "The hypothesis is advanced that (neuro)melanin (in conjunction with other pigment molecules such as the isopentenoids) functions as the major organizational molecule in living systems. Melanin is depicted as an organizational "trigger" capable of using established properties such as photon- (electron)- photon conversions, free radical-redox mechanism, ion exchange mechanisms, ion exchange mechanisms, and semiconductive switching capabilities to direct energy to strategic molecular systems and sensitive hierarchies of protein enzyme cascades. Melanin is held capable of regulating a wide range of molecular interactions and metabolic processes..."
.
Melanin's Main Properties: It absorbs, stores & transforms energy. It has "black hole" properties.
.
Black Melanin can convert light energy to sound energy and back again!
Melanin is BLACK because its chemical structure allows no energy to escape. It is also Black because Black is the perfect absorber of light and all energy frequencies, making Black Melanin the super absorber of Energy and Light! Thus scientists describe it as acting like a "black hole."
Melanin can rearrange its chemical structure to absorb ALL energy across the radiant energy spectrum (sunlight, X-rays, music, sound, radar, radio waves...) and can transmute and store this energy for later use!
Melanin can absorb a great amount of energy and yet not produce a tremendous amount of heat when it absorbs this energy, because it can transform harmful energy into useful energy. According to Dr. Leon Edelstein*, Melanin can absorb tremendous quantities of energy of all kinds, including energy from sunlight, x-ray machines, and energy that is formed within cells during the metabolism of cells. He theorizes that Melanin has the ability to neutralize the potentially harmful effects of these energies.
In Dr. Frank Barr's theory, matter is shaped and structured by light: that is, matter is organized through the interaction of molecules composed of slowed-down light. These molecular [Melanin] combinations "eat" light in order to maintain, expand and evolve matter. The more highly evolved a species, the more complex its biological capacity to use light.
Melanin has superconducting properties; it shows evidence of being a room-temperature (biological) super-conductor. Normally, superconductivity occurs only at very low temperatures.
Melanin is like a battery. Melanin "may be viewed as a battery that is partially charged and can always accept an electrical charge!"
1 When sunlight or other energy comes in contact with the Melanin battery, it increases the charge of the battery to a certain degree. When the energy is captured, the battery has more energy to use in the body. "This means that the BLACK HUMAN can charge up his MELANIN just by being in the sun or around the right type of musical sounds or other energy sources."
2 Melanin in the eye receives light and converts it into the electrical energy that comes across as an image.
PublicEnemigo1;4456208 said:
Oh god...I had a feeling it was this bullshit youtube science.
Listen here Mr. Magoo..first of....Spiders do not have melanin, so its there are organisms on Earth that dont have melanin. 2nd....I said PROVE that Melanin is universal. Cite the study where Melanin was found outside of this Planet.
@rage
Melanin is that which allows organisms to absorb radiation and repurpose it.
Anywhere that life is found you will find organisms with melanin, absorbing the radiation from their local star.
So unless you are prepared to tell me that earth is the only life producing planet in ALL the universe, then you have
to submit that the presence of melanin in the universe is axiomatic.
So let's get back to the topic at hand, we're talking about a fictional humanoid, but a humanoid none the less whose
body's absorption of UV radiation gives him superhuman abilities.
Melanin acts like chlorophyll absorbing the rays from the sun and storing it as energy. Just as the green color of leaves reflect this, the darkening of the skin reflects this absorption as well.
This argument is so simple any further explanation verges on redundancy.
Counter it...I doubt you can.
Melanin is that which allows organisms to absorb radiation and repurpose it.
Anywhere that life is found you will find organisms with melanin, absorbing the radiation from their local star.
So unless you are prepared to tell me that earth is the only life producing planet in ALL the universe, then you have
to submit that the presence of melanin in the universe is axiomatic.
So let's get back to the topic at hand, we're talking about a fictional humanoid, but a humanoid none the less whose
body's absorption of UV radiation gives him superhuman abilities.
Melanin acts like chlorophyll absorbing the rays from the sun and storing it as energy. Just as the green color of leaves reflect this, the darkening of the skin reflects this absorption as well.
This argument is so simple any further explanation verges on redundancy.
Counter it...I doubt you can.
@rage
really wiki-scholar is that the only example you came up with.
Now you're just trolling. So prove that kryptonians aren't genetically similar to spiders?
We can start with the humanoid features and work from there, or I can just ignore your posts
on my don't feed the trolls domestic policy. I'm thinkin if you cannot come up with anything
better besides that I'm going with the latter.
Edit: Does this
Look like a spider to you? See any similar or familiar phenotype? No?
Dead that shit son...or get your eyes checked.
really wiki-scholar is that the only example you came up with.
Now you're just trolling. So prove that kryptonians aren't genetically similar to spiders?
We can start with the humanoid features and work from there, or I can just ignore your posts
on my don't feed the trolls domestic policy. I'm thinkin if you cannot come up with anything
better besides that I'm going with the latter.
Edit: Does this
Look like a spider to you? See any similar or familiar phenotype? No?
Dead that shit son...or get your eyes checked.
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PublicEnemigo1;4456631 said:
How the fuck am I trolling??? You started this idiotic ass thread and since the Bos-Philly game is about as interesting as a female soccer game I am indulging this out of shear boredom.
1) You stated Melanin is a Universal Element. That is a statement of scientific fact....and since you want to apply science to a comic book I am challenging you to PROVE your statement of scientific fact.
2) Spiders do not have melanin....this shoots down your "Universal" argument of yours.
3) You have stated that since Superman is not a homo sapien...you have to now prove that he as a sperate species has melanin.
4) This is just ONE of MANY holes in your lunacy...but we on this so.
rage;4456662 said:
1) Melanin is found everywhere it's made up of carbon chains, carbon being one of the most abundant elements of the universe, and carbon at its very core is black. Therefore melanin must be found on and offworld. Disprove it if otherwise.
2) Spiders are one of the few, meaning they are an exception that proves the rule. Plus your source simply stated it is not detected, meaning it can simply be present in a form not yet noticed. So will call that inconclusive at best.
3) Superman is not homo sapien, but he is a humanoid expressing the same phenotype of a homo sapien. The simple fact that his powers are based on the absorption of yellow sun rays proves that he has melanin. Besides chlorophyll what other substance has this ability, and if it were chlorophyll in his system he's be green or some other color not readily found among the human species.
4) There are no holes its just simple. A power set based off absorption of the sun should result in a darkening of the skin in response to storing and holding massive amounts radiation accumulated over many years.
Read up:http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/open-forum/43055-must-read-melanin-study.html
If a normal human being eats carrots as a primary food source their body will turn an orange tint from the body absorbing carotene. Eventually the body returns to normal from this physiological response as the carotene is disposed of.
So imagine a character/person whose body stores and holds this energy it doesn't deplete just keeps absorbing, his body his skin is going to have a physiological response and that is on a basic level the darkening of the skin.
nujerz84;4456989 said:
You're missing a preposition just like you're missing the premise.
Comic book fans argue and apply real life or logic to comics all the time such as the many debates on Superman vs Goku
or classifying characters across many categories. People apply science and/or logic to characters all the time to determine the
amount of realism or how achievable these feats are. Flash, Batman, Wolverine, Superman, etc, etc.
I'm just coming at it from a different perspective based off unaccounted for factors.
For instance in comics, there are way more superheroes of european descent than any other ethnicity, but europeans are the minority on the planet in real life. If comic book creators are drawing upon real life for inspiration and mythology then there
line ups should reflect that.
I'm not even mad about superman being 'white' as opposed to dark skinned because I already know where the creators come from. In their minds they view the world like the mercantile map. Speaking of niggas, white people, europeans are the OG niggas of the world let's get it straight.
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rage;4466372 said:
So calling out bullshit ass DC creators/writers over their obviously white slanted views is bullshit and crazy. Seems familiar.
@rage I broke it down for you scientifically, and you havent been able to refute one bit besides 'spiders don't have melanin' that shit was weak as hell and you tried to pass it off like a suitable counter point.
Don't dick ride a troll it's not a good look. It's better to fail on your own merit than co-signng someone else's hot 'garba-je'
PublicEnemigo1;4466556 said:
homie mad I called this thread for what it is.. and no you didnt address or make this thread going at white slanted views which is more than valid and worthy discussion.. you used some science and tried to a apply it to a make believe advanced planet that is not bound by any Earthly science or rules of scientific law based on earth.
Yet when pointed out that the there are black kryptonians still dismissed it with more bs reasoning exposing this thread for what it was.
Simple Superman Kyrptonian Parents were lilly white...how many cases of two white parents that were faithful (IE not cheating) making a black child ......but there are several cases of black parents making a albino white looking kids.
thread closed.
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