Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

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Go figure...;2164567 said:
our most "respected" religious leaders are human aka prone to sin, otherwise they would be perfect, which ONLY God can be. so u missed urself.

yet they still your leaders
 
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mr.man;2162440 said:
Yes science is a collect of evidence by man. So u have to trust man that their findings are correct. You have faith that scientist understands and know what they are talking about. And Hawking said he don't believe his findings may not be correct and that maybe there is a God. Look it up.

yet he still identifies as an atheist

99.9 percent of the evidence points to no god

yet you go for the .1 percent

yall theist should never go to vegas for your own good
 
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KTULU IS BACK;2161785 said:
Coincidentally, you're close to the reason why the universe doesn't need to be created. Before the Big Bang, time did not exist. Time and space came into being with the Big Bang. So nothing could have been before that, since before did not exist.

so how does nonexistence turn into existence?

KTULU IS BACK;2161785 said:
1. Morality doesn't need to be objective to be morality.

2. Even with God, morality is still subjective. It's just that the subject making the decision is a deity. Might makes right on a cosmic scale, as I've already said. Fascism.

3. You really don't need a fairy tale to understand that murder is a bad thing to do. And while we're on the subject of basic rules every society has, howcome the Bible doesn't have a problem with rape, abuse of women, abuse of children, etc. etc.? What a shitty book.

our morals are shaped by judeo/christian heritage, whether u'd like to admit it or not. n where in the bible does it say the bible has no problem wit rape, abuse, etc?

KTULU IS BACK;2161785 said:
If half the planet were dissolved, nothing would survive. Shit, you're dumb as a bag of bricks.

LMAO

KTULU IS BACK;2161785 said:
1. I already explained why you are wrong about this.

2. The Bible explicitly says killing other people to take care of your own is just fine, as long as you worked out a contract with God, like the Hebrews and their genocides in the "promised land."

yes God commanded the isrealites to kill the canaanites but ur takin it out of context, he wasnt commandin it just to have some fun n watch ppl die

"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." (Deuteronomy 9:5)

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)

"When the LORD your God cuts off before you the nations which you are going in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, beware that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?' (Deuteronomy 12:29-30)

look at the story of sodom, he saved the righteous before he wiped out the city of wicked. before he was gonna wipe out the city abraham asked him, "Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? (Genesis 18:23)

then abraham begs him down to spare the city if there are 10 righteous ppl within a whole city of wicked ppl, and God promised he wouldnt if he found 10. interestingly enough, there was only a family of 4 who were found to be holy in the whole city, so God wiped the city out, sending angels to save the only 4 righteous ppl in that land before it all went down.

KTULU IS BACK;2161785 said:
Have you read your own fucking book? The Bible says slavery is just fine. The only rule is that you cannot beat your slave to death. The punishment for that? A fine.

slavery in the ancient days was more of a class structure, not roundin up ppl and hating them over the color of their skin. ppl practiced voluntary slavery in order to cover their debts, the involuntary slavery that u claim the bible condones....well....is not condoned at all. the rules actually PROTECTED the slaves from any types of mistreatments. just because it doesnt outlaw it does not mean it condones it. smh. society created slavery, not God.

1 Timothy 1:8–10

We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers....


Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death (Exodus 21:16)........OK BUDDY
 
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thedesolateone;2164831 said:
yet they still your leaders

who are these leaders u talkin about?????????? people who represent christianity on a massive level??

hes just another man to me. these "leaders" wont get us into heaven, jesus and God will.

atheists always invalidate christianity on the fact that christians are not perfect. we know we arent perfect and we will never be. wtf is ur argument??
 
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Go figure...;2165488 said:
so how does nonexistence turn into existence?

our morals are shaped by judeo/christian heritage, whether u'd like to admit it or not. n where in the bible does it say the bible has no problem wit rape, abuse, etc?

LMAO

yes God commanded the isrealites to kill the canaanites but ur takin it out of context, he wasnt commandin it just to have some fun n watch ppl die

"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." (Deuteronomy 9:5)

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods." (Deuteronomy 12:31)

"When the LORD your God cuts off before you the nations which you are going in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, beware that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?' (Deuteronomy 12:29-30)

look at the story of sodom, he saved the righteous before he wiped out the city of wicked. before he was gonna wipe out the city abraham asked him, "Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? (Genesis 18:23)

then abraham begs him down to spare the city if there are 10 righteous ppl within a whole city of wicked ppl, and God promised he wouldnt if he found 10. interestingly enough, there was only a family of 4 who were found to be holy in the whole city, so God wiped the city out, sending angels to save the only 4 righteous ppl in that land before it all went down.

slavery in the ancient days was more of a class structure, not roundin up ppl and hating them over the color of their skin. ppl practiced voluntary slavery in order to cover their debts, the involuntary slavery that u claim the bible condones....well....is not condoned at all. the rules actually PROTECTED the slaves from any types of mistreatments. just because it doesnt outlaw it does not mean it condones it. smh. society created slavery, not God.

1 Timothy 1:8–10
We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers....


Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death (Exodus 21:16)........OK BUDDY

Great post drop, nice explanation.
 
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Go figure...;2165488 said:
so how does nonexistence turn into existence?
Why are you assuming this is what happened?

our morals are shaped by judeo/christian heritage, whether u'd like to admit it or not.
This is beside the point you were arguing and it's also a false statement. Western morality is founded on philosophy, not superstition.

n where in the bible does it say the bible has no problem wit rape, abuse, etc?
If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. Deut 22:28-29

LOL at this primitive nonsense. You rape a girl and the punishment is a fine and marriage. Savages.

yes God commanded the isrealites to kill the canaanites
I'm glad you can admit that. It's unfortunate that you try to make excuses for genocide. By posting the Bible verses where YHWH explains his command to commit genocide, you are proving my point that you worship a maniacal dictator.

look at the story of sodom, he saved the righteous before he wiped out the city of wicked.
Fascism. It is horrific that you want to praise such a beast.

slavery in the ancient days was more of a class structure,
Slavery is the ownership of another human being and your god said this was perfectly acceptable. You could even beat your slaves, as long as you didn't kill them. Then you'd have to pay a fine.

just because it doesnt outlaw it does not mean it condones it.
Except for the parts where God explicitly states "Conquer these people and enslave the survivors."

society created slavery, not God.
If God created everything, he created slavery. Christians are always looking for cop-outs from this but you can't honestly find them.

Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death (Exodus 21:16)........OK BUDDY

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Okay, buddy?
 
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D-Jack;2166722 said:
You guys believe in God, and you're full-time sinners, whether you guys ask for forgiveness or not. It's really inconsistent; you're born a sinner, you repent, and then you sin throughout your entire life. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THIS?Rinse, wash, and repeat

Lol that was sarcasm. I stay Afeus
 
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KTULU IS BACK;2166577 said:
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Okay, buddy?

here is the 9 VERSES THAT CAME BEFORE THE ONE U QUOTED

"If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and SELLS HIMSELF to you, do not make him work as a slave. He is to be treated as a hired worker or a temporary resident among you; he is to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. Then he and his children are to be released, and he will go back to his own clan and to the property of his forefathers. Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God. (Lev 25.35-43)


and the verses that came AFTER the one u quoted (44-55)

'Now if a sojourner or stranger close to you becomes rich, and one of your brethren who dwells by him becomes poor, and sells himself to the stranger or sojourner close to you, or to a member of the stranger's family, 'after he is sold he may be redeemed again. One of his brothers may redeem him;or his uncle or his uncle's son may redeem him; or anyone who is near of kin to him in his family may redeem him; or if he is able he may redeem himself. Thus he shall reckon with him who bought him: The price of his release shall be according to the number of years, from the year that he was sold to him until the Year of Jubilee; it shall be according to the time of a hired servant for him. If there are still many years remaining, according to them he shall repay the price of his redemption from the money with which he was bought. And if there remain but a few years until the Year of Jubilee, then he shall reckon with him, and according to his years he shall repay him the price of his redemption. He shall be with him as a yearly hired servant, and he shall not rule with rigor over him in your sight.And if he is not redeemed in these years, then he shall be released in the Year of Jubilee; he and his children with him. For the children of Israel are servants to Me; they are My servants whom I brought out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God" (Lev 25:44-55).

slavery in those times is not the same as the slavery u are implying. western slavery benefits the rich, eastern slavery helped the poor. people sold themselves into slavery so whoever was selling, the israelites could buy. u couldnt force anyone into slavery. None of these passages encourage the ownership of slaves, it limits and restricts it.

Deuteronomy 23:15-16
15 If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand them over to their master. 16 Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them.


http://www.godwords.org/posts.php?id=31

now here read this site cuz im tired of explainin the same shit to u over n over. atheists stay takin shit outta context to fit their argument.

http://www.comereason.org/soc_culture/soc060.asp

heres a quote from the page:
" * Slavery was designed so that the poor could seek protection - this is noted in the passage of Leviticus that your friend quoted. It's driven by the need of the individual who is poor.
* Slaves were to be recognized as human beings first and foremost, not property or chattel. Verse 40 states "He is to be treated as a hired worker or a temporary resident among you".4

* Slavery had a specific time of service and afterward were allowed to go free. Note that the passage above even includes the family of the slave so as not to break up the family unit.

* As an owner, you couldn't "cook the books". A big problem in those days was the charging of exorbitant interest so that slaves would stay indebted to their masters forever (remember Jacob and Laban?). Here, God specifically declares that this practice is forbidden."

SMH ill respond to ur other shit when i have time and need a good laugh
 
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D-Jack;2166722 said:
You guys believe in God, and you're full-time sinners, whether you guys ask for forgiveness or not. It's really inconsistent; you're born a sinner, you repent, and then you sin throughout your entire life. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THIS?Rinse, wash, and repeat

the lord knows we can never stop sinning, but our job is to keep growing closer to God in faith and repentance while spreading the word of God to others. we have to really be trying, not the ol "well fuck it ima go ahead n do this shit, ill ask for forgiveness later" nah...that aint gon cut it. u have to have the lord in ur heart and regardless of how u act amongst others and what others think of u in terms of ur faith, only God really knows if u really mean it and if ur heart really desires Him. and if u do desire Him and ur mature in ur faith, it will show and shine thru u in ur ways, if ur ways r that of God.
 
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Steve took the L a long time ago. This is the same man who:

1) Used to wear a painfully obvious lacefront toupe

2) Wears those tacky ass zoot suits

3) Is about as funny as the sound of paint drying

4) His current wife is a golddigging, drug kingpin-loving slore that refused to fuck with him back when he was broke

5) Jealous that Hollywood was knocking on Bernie's door instead of his, he refused to talk to him anymore because of it....and yet displayed crocodile tears at his funeral.

He's a coon-tastic country bumpkin, so why anyone would expect anything remotely intelligent to pass through those big teeth is beyond me. Hell, you can tell he's dumb as fuck just watching family feud.
 
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Go figure...;2166890 said:
here is the 9 VERSES THAT CAME BEFORE THE ONE U QUOTED

blah blah blah blah blah
As anybody who can read can see, your verses still say that slavery is permitted by your god. There are rules about not enslaving Hebrews, not kidnapping people, and not beating your slaves to death.

But it still says that you can own another human being, own him for life, own his children, and even pass them on to your kids as inherited property.

Your religion is barbaric, your god is a fascist tyrant, and you have been sonned on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE IN THIS THREAD.
 
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Go figure...;2165512 said:
who are these leaders u talkin about?????????? people who represent christianity on a massive level??

hes just another man to me. these "leaders" wont get us into heaven, jesus and God will.

atheists always invalidate christianity on the fact that christians are not perfect. we know we arent perfect and we will never be. wtf is ur argument??

what is heaven to you?
 
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fiat_money;2161940 said:
LOL @ "You lose for knowing how to do stuff that I don't."



Automatically downloading shit as I type this.

LOL @ you bein proud of this shit, thats another lauce right there. You also lauced for sittin in your basement learnin nerd shit while I get out the house and live life. U Mad loser?

KTULU IS BACK;2171004 said:
But it still says that you can own another human being, own him for life, own his children, and even pass them on to your kids as inherited property.

Your religion is barbaric, your god is a fascist tyrant

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Thats my kind of religion. BAUCE!
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Stack Money;2172456 said:
LOL @ you bein proud of this shit, thats another lauce right there. You also lauced for sittin in your basement learnin nerd shit while I get out the house and live life. U Mad loser?...
Looks like you've been imagining what you think my life may be like.

SMH/LOL @ Fantasizing about another nigga's life.

Pouring out your feelings and shit:
dSOBV.jpg


[video=youtube;u31FO_4d9TY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY[/video]
 
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fiat_money;2172594 said:
Looks like you've been imagining what you think my life may be like.

SMH/LOL @ Fantasizing about another nigga's life.

Pouring out your feelings and shit:

dSOBV.jpg


[video=youtube;u31FO_4d9TY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY[/video]

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N/H @ you wantin me to think about yo gay ass. Anyone wit a brain knows you ain't got no life, thats why you stay up in this thread (and this board) postin these wack ass pics thinkin they funny. It's obvious wit each pic you post that you butthurt cause I'm callin you out for bein a loser. Quit catchin feelins and accept the fact that you a lame.
 
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Stack Money;2172742 said:
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N/H @ you wantin me to think about yo gay ass. Anyone wit a brain knows you ain't got no life, thats why you stay up in this thread (and this board) postin these wack ass pics thinkin they funny. It's obvious wit each pic you post that you butthurt cause I'm callin you out for bein a loser. Quit catchin feelins and accept the fact that you a lame.
LOL. First fantasizing, now you're thinking up gay shit. Seems your level of aggravation has increased.

SMH @ Your responses getting progressively homotional.

Pic related:
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