Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

[KTULU IS BACK]

You do realize that I never said anything to the effect of "My atheism is exactly in line with how atheism is described by the Humanist Manifesto" right?

And you'll notice that nowhere in that document does it say that they consider atheism to be a religion. Instead, they consider humanism to be an atheistic religion. It's interesting, but they have to really stretch the meaning of the word "religion" in order to make this work. They're not describing or prescribing any rituals or dogma for members of the group to follow.

And yes, it does take a form of faith for me to have hope in humanity. But it is not faith in myth, magic, a wizard in the sky, or any of the hilarious things you believe in. Instead, it is a faith in our ability to survive and prosper based on evidence from our history. We've come a long way from the dark ages, where you religious people dominated everything and had the legal authority to force your morals upon others and even put scientists in prison for poking holes in your cosmology.

You're so desperate to classify atheism as a form of faith so that you can say it is on par with faith in gods. And every time the obvious flaw in this thinking is pointed out, you Google harder and try to come up with new red herrings.

It is sad.

 

[The True Flesh]

If atheist are so smart, why don't they take over and do away with religion all together?

I mean the dominant dominate.........So what's the problem?

What manner of POWER is inhibiting you???

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

If atheist are so smart, why don't they take over and do away with religion all together?

I mean the dominant dominate.........So what's the problem

What manner of POWER is inhibiting you???

Maybe we value freedom more than you do.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

You do realize that I never said anything to the effect of "My atheism is exactly in line with how atheism is described by the Humanist Manifesto" right?

And you'll notice that nowhere in that document does it say that they consider atheism to be a religion. Instead, they consider humanism to be an atheistic religion. It's interesting, but they have to really stretch the meaning of the word "religion" in order to make this work. They're not describing or prescribing any rituals or dogma for members of the group to follow.

And yes, it does take a form of faith for me to have hope in humanity. But it is not faith in myth, magic, a wizard in the sky, or any of the hilarious things you believe in. Instead, it is a faith in our ability to survive and prosper based on evidence from our history. We've come a long way from the dark ages, where you religious people dominated everything and had the legal authority to force your morals upon others and even put scientists in prison for poking holes in your cosmology.

You're so desperate to classify atheism as a form of faith so that you can say it is on par with faith in gods. And every time the obvious flaw in this thinking is pointed out, you Google harder and try to come up with new red herrings.

It is sad.

All in that you said nothing. It didn't stretch anything. Humanism...atheism. It's all in the same boat. You can't have it which way you want.

I hope you aren't trying to say you don't follow or agree with ANY iota of those views in that then you are basically in denial.

 

[fiat_money]

...Humanism...atheism. It's all in the same boat...

Which boat would that be?

 

[thedesolateone]

atheism simply means you dont have a belief in a god no more no less it isnt a religion

its not a moral code

that is all

 

[Disciplined InSight]

atheism simply means you dont have a belief in god no more no less it isnt a religion
it its a moral code

Sorry.
Read about the 1st humanist manifesto written down in the 1930's, which even claimed every human being is religious.

Atheism is a religion, you believe that there is no God. Don't think because the 2nd secular humanist manifesto changed the meaning still stands from the 1st manifesto, which still stands correct. The atheists wanted to get religion out of the schools they changed it up due to that.

 

[thedesolateone]

Sorry.

Read about the 1st humanist manifesto written down in the 1930's, which even claimed every human being is religious.

Atheism is a religion, you believe that there is no God. Don't think because the 2nd secular humanist manifesto changed the meaning still stands from the 1st manifesto, which still stands correct. The atheists wanted to get religion out of the schools they changed it up due to that.

lots of humanist are also atheist but not all atheist are humanist.if you wanna believe humanist=atheist then i must leave you to your beliefs .i understand theist are willfully ignorant most times and some are simply brainwashed

 

[fiat_money]

lots of humanist are also atheist but not all atheist are humanist.if you wanna believe humanist=atheist then i must leave you to your beliefs .i understand theist are willfully ignorant most times and some are simply brainwashed

Word, basic logic here.

All humans may be primates, but that doesn't mean all primates are humans.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

Disciplined Insight is either being intellectually dishonest or he's in denial.

I think one of the big problems with religion is that it encourages people to NOT learn about how to form or recognize coherent arguments, since that type of thinking might lead to apostasy.

 

[Kushington]

none of you niggas would be athiests if you lived in a hut in a jungle

its easy to not believe in god when you can walk to the store and buy food, let some of you niggas try to live off the land, i bet you start worshipping then

 

[fiat_money]

none of you niggas would be athiests if you lived in a hut in a jungle...

The Pirahãs would disagree with you.

Horrible argument.

 

[Kushington]

wtf why did a mod have to approve my post?

 

[fiat_money]

wtf why did a mod have to approve my post?

Pics/links.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

lots of humanist are also atheist but not all atheist are humanist.if you wanna believe humanist=atheist then i must leave you to your beliefs .i understand theist are willfully ignorant most times and some are simply brainwashed

There is no brainwashing. You need to look up the history of the Humanist Manifesto and stop being in denial. It is not up to MY beliefs, it was already created.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Disciplined Insight is either being intellectually dishonest or he's in denial.

I think one of the big problems with religion is that it encourages people to NOT learn about how to form or recognize coherent arguments, since that type of thinking might lead to apostasy.

You're the one in denial. Unfortunately you don't want to accept what the origins of your beliefs.

 

[Kushington]

Pics/links.

nah it was all words bro.....IDk.....

Spiritual belief is universal, but athiesm is mainly present in modernized countries where people experience anomie and dont feel they actually need god anymore, due to progress(they dont think that consciously but their lifestyle, compared to a more primitive one, grants them the privilege)

 

[The True Flesh]

I would totally concede my argument against darwinian evolution if one person could provide even a shred of evidence from the fossil record of a transition of any creature from one class to another:

Class being birds, fish, mammals, amphibians, reptiles and arthropods.

Why is that so hard to do???

Ask yourself.......

Why won't any of the bold azz posters in this thread respond to this post???

Peace

 

[Kushington]

I would totally concede my argument against darwinian evolution if one person could provide even a shred of evidence from the fossil record of a transition of any creature from one class to another:

Class being birds, fish, mammals, amphibians, reptiles and arthropods.

Why is that so hard to do???

Ask yourself.......

Why won'tany of the bold azz posters in this thread respond to this post???

idk bout those other animals but there are all types of skulls and bones which show ape to human transition

humans lost and gained alot structurewise and it is shown in the fossil record

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

True Flesh: Tiktaalik.

Now you can "totally concede."