State of Hip Hop Discussion (Contribute)

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BoscoDeSoto;2154092 said:
LOL @ ray bans, that's how i know u not gettin money when you call ray bans cheap. Please come up with a better brand, you ol I shop at the mall nicca lol. Lol..WOW you really thought you was saying somethin?!

Anyway back to the thread my homies...let's go

naw, you thought YOU was sayin somethin
you just agreed with me in a dumb nigga way
i'll accept it tho
you stupid and don't know no better
 
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kevmic;2154093 said:
If they are sub genres where's all the artist and contributions to hip hop from that sub genre?? Usually with hip hop music, some artist will have a sound that's different from everyone elses, and will call that Crunk for the south or Grime for cats over in the UK. But even on that level I can only think of one or maybe two artists for that sub genre. Not enough to have a whole genre spinoff of it.

I can't really say for Crunk but Grime has plenty in the UK, it's just that most who make it mainstream normally stray away from a Grime sound as it were, so maybe so. I think to an extent you're right; at a certain level it does become generalised but it's still happening I suppose
 
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Food & Liquor;2154135 said:
I can't really say for Crunk but Grime has plenty in the UK, it's just that most who make it mainstream normally stray away from a Grime sound as it were, so maybe so. I think to an extent you're right; at a certain level it does become generalised but it's still happening I suppose

I gotta agree with the Grime movement in the UK. I just watched some documentary on it a few months ago, and for the longest the only one I though even did that was Dizzy Rascal. But then again that is only over in the UK and him and maybe one or two other have even caught American ears.
 
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kevmic;2154157 said:
I gotta agree with the Grime movement in the UK. I just watched some documentary on it a few months ago, and for the longest the only one I though even did that was Dizzy Rascal. But then again that is only over in the UK and him and maybe one or two other have even caught American ears.

Yeah, it's only just becoming big over here compared with the other stuff in the charts and even then sometimes the highest charting stuff is less grime (Dizzee's a big example of this actually). Who else has caught the ears in America? I presume Tinie Tempah has as well but that's the only two I can think of...
 
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NeighberHoodPusher;2156554 said:
you're right but me personally just likes to focus on what i like

as you should
niggas always whinin about balance
who the fuck is the dj in your house? your car?
if you complainin about balance then that's your fault
 
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The State of Hip Hop???: A STATE OF EMERGENCY

If Rap doesn't destroy and rebuild itself soon we could be heading for extinction. But something must be done, it's in a horrible state, this whole decade as been a downfall in quality, rhymes, flows, beats the whole 9.
 
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rapmastermind;2156566 said:
The State of Hip Hop???: A STATE OF EMERGENCY

If Rap doesn't destroy and rebuild itself soon we could be heading for extinction. But something must be done, it's in a horrible state, this whole decade as been a downfall in quality, rhymes, flows, beats the whole 9.

Yes this decade has been disturbing for the most part....corporate America is using HipHop to sell everything from KIA's to Brisk Tea....HipHop is no loger the rebellious street poetry music of the disenfranchised youth.

The labels want pop songs because thats were the money is at so alot of mainstream HipHop is watered-down and stripped of the complex lyricism and social commentary that dominated the early nineties.
 
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kevmic;2153968 said:
Am I generally excited about hip hop, no. Here's why, The state of hip hop has been lost to this generation's obsession with age and relevancy and how the two are related in hip hop. We are no longer focused on originality and creativity, and trying to out do the last guy lyrically. But instead we celebrate the artists who may seem like the coolest to hang out with or the scariest nigga on the block. No other genre of music ever have this as an issue except hip hop. Today's younger fans feel as if hip hop should last up to thirty and at that point you are old and irrelevant. I think maybe because hip hop is the youngest genre and only genre that has changed from being based on culture and being centered around music, now is based on marketing and is centered around image. The only other genre even close to this would be pop. Yet pop was created for the very purpose of being marketable and selling an image through music. It seems as if through the popularity of hip hop we have adopted that premise as how hip hop music should operate, especially in recent years.

Unlike other genres of music that would spin off other sub-geres of that music. Hip hop has a tendancy to just blanket the entire scene for that current time as what everyone is doing. Example.

Genre: Rock & Roll

Sub Genre: Heavy Metal

Punk

Ska

Emo

etc.....

Genre: Hip Hop

Sub-Genre: ???

Hip Hop music doesn't have a sub-genre, because we only listen to what the majority or the hottest thing out is doing. If the hottest at the time is on some party shit, then all rappers is on some party and club shit. If the hottest rapper at the time is on some cocaine shit, then everyone's a drug dealer, and so on and so forth. We have lost that originality that made hip hop big in the first place, and came to a point where everyone is scared to be different, or everyone is selling the same story. The reason why the older rappers haven't left the game is because of who would be left with it.

this is powerful right here, like to be honest...that is something hip hop should address. we just swallow up sub generes instead of letting them defines themselves and have their own rules/guidelines. In the end that only hurts and dilutes what hip hop is
 
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BackInWhite;2156562 said:
as you should
niggas always whinin about balance
who the fuck is the dj in your house? your car?
if you complainin about balance then that's your fault

why wouldn't you want balance though?
 
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