Spinoff: JayZ or LL Cool J?

[CJ]

Jay- Z & it ain't close

 

[rip.dilla]

Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine.

DEAD

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Dont even mention Jay Z in the same sentence with LL. This thread just expose niggas lack of knowledge about his catalog. If you think LL is all about love songs then you aint never listened to an full LL album. And I aint just talking about the cliche Bad or BBD. Im talking about his lyrically strong late 80s-early 90s albums. Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine. FOH with them ducktales. LL was a rapid pitbull on that mic. LL diss niggas and hit em with a so what face before a lethal verse. Jay Z diss niggas and ignore them or shake their hands. LL dissed Jay Z on Phenonom and Jay Z didnt want no parts of it after Dame brought it to his attention. How can a shy faggot be more "influental" than a young dude who basically was the face of def jam. IDGAF about rick rubin or russell. DEF JAM=LL COOL J that was the identifying belief that has always been in this culture. Fuck Glastonbury or whereever Euro Jay got them water bottles thrown at him by them Neo Nazi metal heads. LL Cool J was selling out arenas in the UK back in the mid 1980s when hip hop wasnt even a blip in world of music. I guess you faggots forgot LL was acting in box office movies in the 1980s also. I still havent seen that shy faggot in one film scene. LL and Will Smith were pioneering rappers turned actors at that time that didnt have to play them stereotypical "black" roles in films. LL acted along Robin Williams in the mega blockbuster but boring as hell Toys movie that droves of whites took their kids to see in 1992 while Jay Z was ALLEGEDLY selling drugs destroying the community. LL had a sitcom and recurring A list movie apperances based on his INFLUENCE and CHARISMA. Niggas just hate LL because he made your mother panties moist. Im serious. especially you 90s crackbabies. walk upstairs from the cum smelling dank basement and ask mom how many LL Cool J posters she owned and watch her blush. Beyonce has even said LL was sexy numerous times. LL Cool J was and will always be more influental than Jay Z. LL cool J been making million dollar moves before he could legally buy cigarettes. Jay Z debuted in the game at 29 and had to double cross his best friends and artists to make his millions. I dare one of you niggas in here to act like yall aint own nothing FUBU. FOH. If it wasnt for FUBU there would be no Rocawear.

Lets talk rap though. Like I said LL tested alot of niggas because he was a wild youngbuck. and he bodied his targets. RUN DMC...bodied. Moe Dee...bodied. Ice T...bodied. Rakim...bodied. Rob Base...bodied. EPMD...bodied. Hammer...bodied. Redman bodied. Jay Z...bodied...twice. Nigga never lost a feud. Who Jay Z got on his resume? seriously. Who has Jay Z stopped in their tracks lyrically. Not Nas. Not Game. Not Tupac. C' mon Usmarin3 and the rest of you jigga fags i need yall help WHO IN THE FUCK HAS JAY Z BEAT IN A BATTLE? meeno? jim jones? deshawn stevenson? nigga who scared of that resume? LMAO

Pure ether in this post. I agree with 92% of this except the 8% I've bolded...

Need proof of these claims.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Dont even mention Jay Z in the same sentence with LL. This thread just expose niggas lack of knowledge about his catalog. If you think LL is all about love songs then you aint never listened to an full LL album. And I aint just talking about the cliche Bad or BBD. Im talking about his lyrically strong late 80s-early 90s albums. Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine. FOH with them ducktales. LL was a rapid pitbull on that mic. LL diss niggas and hit em with a so what face before a lethal verse. Jay Z diss niggas and ignore them or shake their hands. LL dissed Jay Z on Phenonom and Jay Z didnt want no parts of it after Dame brought it to his attention. How can a shy faggot be more "influental" than a young dude who basically was the face of def jam. IDGAF about rick rubin or russell. DEF JAM=LL COOL J that was the identifying belief that has always been in this culture. Fuck Glastonbury or whereever Euro Jay got them water bottles thrown at him by them Neo Nazi metal heads. LL Cool J was selling out arenas in the UK back in the mid 1980s when hip hop wasnt even a blip in world of music. I guess you faggots forgot LL was acting in box office movies in the 1980s also. I still havent seen that shy faggot in one film scene. LL and Will Smith were pioneering rappers turned actors at that time that didnt have to play them stereotypical "black" roles in films. LL acted along Robin Williams in the mega blockbuster but boring as hell Toys movie that droves of whites took their kids to see in 1992 while Jay Z was ALLEGEDLY selling drugs destroying the community. LL had a sitcom and recurring A list movie apperances based on his INFLUENCE and CHARISMA. Niggas just hate LL because he made your mother panties moist. Im serious. especially you 90s crackbabies. walk upstairs from the cum smelling dank basement and ask mom how many LL Cool J posters she owned and watch her blush. Beyonce has even said LL was sexy numerous times. LL Cool J was and will always be more influental than Jay Z. LL cool J been making million dollar moves before he could legally buy cigarettes. Jay Z debuted in the game at 29 and had to double cross his best friends and artists to make his millions. I dare one of you niggas in here to act like yall aint own nothing FUBU. FOH. If it wasnt for FUBU there would be no Rocawear.

Lets talk rap though. Like I said LL tested alot of niggas because he was a wild youngbuck. and he bodied his targets. RUN DMC...bodied. Moe Dee...bodied. Ice T...bodied. Rakim...bodied. Rob Base...bodied. EPMD...bodied. Hammer...bodied. Redman bodied. Jay Z...bodied...twice. Nigga never lost a feud. Who Jay Z got on his resume? seriously. Who has Jay Z stopped in their tracks lyrically. Not Nas. Not Game. Not Tupac. C' mon Usmarin3 and the rest of you jigga fags i need yall help WHO IN THE FUCK HAS JAY Z BEAT IN A BATTLE? meeno? jim jones? deshawn stevenson? nigga who scared of that resume? LMAO

Half of them shits never happened and Canibus bodied LL, Jayz bodied Prodigy who was on Goat status at the time and has never been the same since

 

[CJ]

Are we talking just who's the best rapper?

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Dont even mention Jay Z in the same sentence with LL. This thread just expose niggas lack of knowledge about his catalog. If you think LL is all about love songs then you aint never listened to an full LL album. And I aint just talking about the cliche Bad or BBD. Im talking about his lyrically strong late 80s-early 90s albums. Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine. FOH with them ducktales. LL was a rapid pitbull on that mic. LL diss niggas and hit em with a so what face before a lethal verse. Jay Z diss niggas and ignore them or shake their hands. LL dissed Jay Z on Phenonom and Jay Z didnt want no parts of it after Dame brought it to his attention. How can a shy faggot be more "influental" than a young dude who basically was the face of def jam. IDGAF about rick rubin or russell. DEF JAM=LL COOL J that was the identifying belief that has always been in this culture. Fuck Glastonbury or whereever Euro Jay got them water bottles thrown at him by them Neo Nazi metal heads. LL Cool J was selling out arenas in the UK back in the mid 1980s when hip hop wasnt even a blip in world of music. I guess you faggots forgot LL was acting in box office movies in the 1980s also. I still havent seen that shy faggot in one film scene. LL and Will Smith were pioneering rappers turned actors at that time that didnt have to play them stereotypical "black" roles in films. LL acted along Robin Williams in the mega blockbuster but boring as hell Toys movie that droves of whites took their kids to see in 1992 while Jay Z was ALLEGEDLY selling drugs destroying the community. LL had a sitcom and recurring A list movie apperances based on his INFLUENCE and CHARISMA. Niggas just hate LL because he made your mother panties moist. Im serious. especially you 90s crackbabies. walk upstairs from the cum smelling dank basement and ask mom how many LL Cool J posters she owned and watch her blush. Beyonce has even said LL was sexy numerous times. LL Cool J was and will always be more influental than Jay Z. LL cool J been making million dollar moves before he could legally buy cigarettes. Jay Z debuted in the game at 29 and had to double cross his best friends and artists to make his millions. I dare one of you niggas in here to act like yall aint own nothing FUBU. FOH. If it wasnt for FUBU there would be no Rocawear.

Lets talk rap though. Like I said LL tested alot of niggas because he was a wild youngbuck. and he bodied his targets. RUN DMC...bodied. Moe Dee...bodied. Ice T...bodied. Rakim...bodied. Rob Base...bodied. EPMD...bodied. Hammer...bodied. Redman bodied. Jay Z...bodied...twice. Nigga never lost a feud. Who Jay Z got on his resume? seriously. Who has Jay Z stopped in their tracks lyrically. Not Nas. Not Game. Not Tupac. C' mon Usmarin3 and the rest of you jigga fags i need yall help WHO IN THE FUCK HAS JAY Z BEAT IN A BATTLE? meeno? jim jones? deshawn stevenson? nigga who scared of that resume? LMAO

you forgot to vote

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Dont even mention Jay Z in the same sentence with LL. This thread just expose niggas lack of knowledge about his catalog. If you think LL is all about love songs then you aint never listened to an full LL album. And I aint just talking about the cliche Bad or BBD. Im talking about his lyrically strong late 80s-early 90s albums. Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine. FOH with them ducktales. LL was a rapid pitbull on that mic. LL diss niggas and hit em with a so what face before a lethal verse. Jay Z diss niggas and ignore them or shake their hands. LL dissed Jay Z on Phenonom and Jay Z didnt want no parts of it after Dame brought it to his attention. How can a shy faggot be more "influental" than a young dude who basically was the face of def jam. IDGAF about rick rubin or russell. DEF JAM=LL COOL J that was the identifying belief that has always been in this culture. Fuck Glastonbury or whereever Euro Jay got them water bottles thrown at him by them Neo Nazi metal heads. LL Cool J was selling out arenas in the UK back in the mid 1980s when hip hop wasnt even a blip in world of music. I guess you faggots forgot LL was acting in box office movies in the 1980s also. I still havent seen that shy faggot in one film scene. LL and Will Smith were pioneering rappers turned actors at that time that didnt have to play them stereotypical "black" roles in films. LL acted along Robin Williams in the mega blockbuster but boring as hell Toys movie that droves of whites took their kids to see in 1992 while Jay Z was ALLEGEDLY selling drugs destroying the community. LL had a sitcom and recurring A list movie apperances based on his INFLUENCE and CHARISMA. Niggas just hate LL because he made your mother panties moist. Im serious. especially you 90s crackbabies. walk upstairs from the cum smelling dank basement and ask mom how many LL Cool J posters she owned and watch her blush. Beyonce has even said LL was sexy numerous times. LL Cool J was and will always be more influental than Jay Z. LL cool J been making million dollar moves before he could legally buy cigarettes. Jay Z debuted in the game at 29 and had to double cross his best friends and artists to make his millions. I dare one of you niggas in here to act like yall aint own nothing FUBU. FOH. If it wasnt for FUBU there would be no Rocawear.

Lets talk rap though. Like I said LL tested alot of niggas because he was a wild youngbuck. and he bodied his targets. RUN DMC...bodied. Moe Dee...bodied. Ice T...bodied. Rakim...bodied. Rob Base...bodied. EPMD...bodied. Hammer...bodied. Redman bodied. Jay Z...bodied...twice. Nigga never lost a feud. Who Jay Z got on his resume? seriously. Who has Jay Z stopped in their tracks lyrically. Not Nas. Not Game. Not Tupac. C' mon Usmarin3 and the rest of you jigga fags i need yall help WHO IN THE FUCK HAS JAY Z BEAT IN A BATTLE? meeno? jim jones? deshawn stevenson? nigga who scared of that resume? LMAO

these rants be making me just wanna say "Fuck Jay-Z"

 

[rip.dilla]

Two sides to Mr. Smith


. .

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Dont even mention Jay Z in the same sentence with LL. This thread just expose niggas lack of knowledge about his catalog. If you think LL is all about love songs then you aint never listened to an full LL album. And I aint just talking about the cliche Bad or BBD. Im talking about his lyrically strong late 80s-early 90s albums. Cool J would eat Jay Z like them cookies the camel munched on for 60 hours selling 92 keys of cocaine. FOH with them ducktales. LL was a rapid pitbull on that mic. LL diss niggas and hit em with a so what face before a lethal verse. Jay Z diss niggas and ignore them or shake their hands. LL dissed Jay Z on Phenonom and Jay Z didnt want no parts of it after Dame brought it to his attention. How can a shy faggot be more "influental" than a young dude who basically was the face of def jam. IDGAF about rick rubin or russell. DEF JAM=LL COOL J that was the identifying belief that has always been in this culture. Fuck Glastonbury or whereever Euro Jay got them water bottles thrown at him by them Neo Nazi metal heads. LL Cool J was selling out arenas in the UK back in the mid 1980s when hip hop wasnt even a blip in world of music. I guess you faggots forgot LL was acting in box office movies in the 1980s also. I still havent seen that shy faggot in one film scene. LL and Will Smith were pioneering rappers turned actors at that time that didnt have to play them stereotypical "black" roles in films. LL acted along Robin Williams in the mega blockbuster but boring as hell Toys movie that droves of whites took their kids to see in 1992 while Jay Z was ALLEGEDLY selling drugs destroying the community. LL had a sitcom and recurring A list movie apperances based on his INFLUENCE and CHARISMA. Niggas just hate LL because he made your mother panties moist. Im serious. especially you 90s crackbabies. walk upstairs from the cum smelling dank basement and ask mom how many LL Cool J posters she owned and watch her blush. Beyonce has even said LL was sexy numerous times. LL Cool J was and will always be more influental than Jay Z. LL cool J been making million dollar moves before he could legally buy cigarettes. Jay Z debuted in the game at 29 and had to double cross his best friends and artists to make his millions. I dare one of you niggas in here to act like yall aint own nothing FUBU. FOH. If it wasnt for FUBU there would be no Rocawear.

Lets talk rap though. Like I said LL tested alot of niggas because he was a wild youngbuck. and he bodied his targets. RUN DMC...bodied. Moe Dee...bodied. Ice T...bodied. Rakim...bodied. Rob Base...bodied. EPMD...bodied. Hammer...bodied. Redman bodied. Jay Z...bodied...twice. Nigga never lost a feud. Who Jay Z got on his resume? seriously. Who has Jay Z stopped in their tracks lyrically. Not Nas. Not Game. Not Tupac. C' mon Usmarin3 and the rest of you jigga fags i need yall help WHO IN THE FUCK HAS JAY Z BEAT IN A BATTLE? meeno? jim jones? deshawn stevenson? nigga who scared of that resume? LMAO

yall some brave niggas to read all that shit.

 

[d.green]

If LL and Jay-Z battled....LL would eat Jay.

 

[DR. JEK]

If LL and Jay-Z battled....LL would eat Jay.

They actually battled already too. Jay was newbie in the game tho at the time that also battled DMX at a poolhall

 

[curtis75black]

SMH @ these clowns trying to rewrite history, like LL didn't set the blueprint for most of these new school legends like Pac, Jay, Big etc.

... Like LL wouldn't do a joint for the ladies and turn around and do a street joint just to show dudes he was still on top commercially and lyrically.

...Like LL didn't hold his own against king lyricists like Canibus and KMD, while Jay falls short in every rap battle he enters (besides Prodigy).

Y'all probably think rap started with Big and Pac, huh?

Let's sum it up real quick. LL influenced dudes like Black Thought, Em, Nas and them, while Jay influenced Wayne, TI, Drake and them.... LL arguably beat Bis, KMD (to some), while Jay lost to Nas, DMX, Cam etc.

LL has multiple classics, while Jay has none (even though Vol1 is crazy dope).

Conclusion: LL wins in all 3 categories.

I agree wit the bulk of this post but what classics does LL have? LL has solid albums no classics

Jigga has several classics

Radio, Bigger & Deffer, Walking With A Panther ( Blueprint for Biggie & Jay's flossing tracks - Double Platinum, Mama Said Knock You Out, MR. Smith. If you wasn't born in the 70's to early 80's don't talk about LL Cool J

 

[Gooner]

lol LL got better flow than Hov now?

here is a question...if there is a mount rushmore for rappers who is more likely to be on it Jay or LL?

 

[curtis75black]

lol LL got better flow than Hov now?

here is a question...if there is a mount rushmore for rappers who is more likely to be on it Jay or LL?

Why both of them couldn't ? The majority of y'all are comparing a emcee who started at 16 to a emcee who finally got his shit off at 26. Basically 10 years apart !! Uncle L was on his 6th cd by the time Jigga dropped RD. 2 different era's and 2 different styles. The premiere solo emcee is LL Cool J !! Look at what he's done throughout.

 

[curtis75black]

 

[ohhhla]

SMH @ these clowns trying to rewrite history, like LL didn't set the blueprint for most of these new school legends like Pac, Jay, Big etc.

... Like LL wouldn't do a joint for the ladies and turn around and do a street joint just to show dudes he was still on top commercially and lyrically.

...Like LL didn't hold his own against king lyricists like Canibus and KMD, while Jay falls short in every rap battle he enters (besides Prodigy).

Y'all probably think rap started with Big and Pac, huh?

Let's sum it up real quick. LL influenced dudes like Black Thought, Em, Nas and them, while Jay influenced Wayne, TI, Drake and them.... LL arguably beat Bis, KMD (to some), while Jay lost to Nas, DMX, Cam etc.

LL has multiple classics, while Jay has none (even though Vol1 is crazy dope).

Conclusion: LL wins in all 3 categories.

I agree wit the bulk of this post but what classics does LL have? LL has solid albums no classics

Jigga has several classics

Radio, Bigger & Deffer, Walking With A Panther ( Blueprint for Biggie & Jay's flossing tracks - Double Platinum, Mama Said Knock You Out, MR. Smith. If you wasn't born in the 70's to early 80's don't talk about LL Cool J

Definitely BDK's influence, not LL Cool J.

Cool J influence the Ja Rule, 50, Drake, Nelly and etc.

So, please stay on your side.

 

[curtis75black]

 

[curtis75black]

thebox.free.fr/llcoolj.htm

 

[curtis75black]

 

[curtis75black]

Here's some underground joints that were completely slept on when it comes to LL Cool J just in case he's all about influencing Nelly, Ja Rule, Drake and whatnot !!
http://thebox.free.fr/llcoolj.html