Southern niqqas rockin Confederate flags ?

[Disciplined InSight]

I understand why people from outside the South can't comprehend why anyone these days, especially black folks, would sport the confederate flag. But what that flag represents to Southern folks, black and white, today, is nothing more than Southern pride. And yes, we realize that that only reinforces negative Southern stereotypes from other regions. But if it wasn't the confederate flag, it would be something else. So basically the South stopped listening to other regions assumptions and derogatory misconceptions about us a long time ago. No one I know, black or white, wishes the South had won had the Civil War. Even your most backwoods, inbred, redneck, alcoholic, piece-of-shit losers (who, contrary to popular belief, reside in every state in this country) are not dumb enough to think slavery would still be legal if the South had won the war. It may have delayed the process. But ultimately, the few Southern "people" who could afford slaves and to own plantations and such, were the only ones who actually cared about slavery. And these same slaveowners (usually French, especially in Louisiana) often had just as many Irish slaves, or "indentured servants" as black ones. Good luck finding any mention of that in your "text books" at "school". I could go on about that in greater detail, but that will only turn this post into a free for all for ignorant racists to post there chopped & screwed versions of what "really" happenned over 100 years ago.

But back to the topic - that flag, similiar, in some ways, to blacks use of the word "n*gg*", does not hold the same meaning it did even just 30-40 years ago. Whoever brought this up is either genuinely curious or just trying to stir up shit that's about 10+ years old. True educated representers of the South (black and white), like Lil Jon, Pastor Troy, Andre 3000, Luda, David Banner, Bubba Sparxxx, Haystak, and a gang of other Southern rappers, embraced this flag as part of the New South movement. As a white man from Birmingham, Alabama, I would never sport a confederate flag simply because I'm aware that most older black people are not aware of the New South movement and might, understandably, be offended. Unfortunately, especially in these financially troubling times in an area that wasn't doing good before the "recession", there's a lot of folks walking around with chips on their shoulder, looking for a target to take out their misdirectted hostilities. For most people that were sportin these flags (most of the time in different colors like red, green, & black, for example) were just goin with a fad because Lil Jon, Luda, Banner, PT Cruiser, etc. were on top at that time. You still see some representin, here in Birmingham, black & white, with confederate flags. And I guarantee, 9 outta 10 of 'em, you would not step to and have shit to say face to face.

Reposted for emphasis.

I had to quote this homie, because this is by far the most logical, reasonable, and relevant post on this topic so far. If everyone that claimed to be so "offended" by it, took that same approach and shared that same mentality, it would actually accomplish something. It would take away from anyone thinkin they were "badasses", like you said, just by hangin flag out.

As a B'ham native myself, sorry to say..I have to disagree with you. Blacks or Whites, who understand the history of the Confederate flag should NOT rep that shit...if a White man proudly reps it, then I already know what he's about..bottom line. But as a Black man, I WILL NOT NOT, NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL support the Confederate flag, regardless of whatever Hip Hop movement is at the forefront..FUCK THAT. The fact that the Confederate flag has cemented itself in AMERICAN history attached to hate groups such as the KKK and Neo-Nazis, it shouldn't have been used as a "new South movement" to embrace Southern pride. The artists you mentioned already represented the Southern pride thoroughly and it was through their music LYRICALLY and SONICALLY... they didn't really need the flag. And it's funny you mentioned Bubba Sparxxx and Haystak considering they're white Southern MC's. As far as Luda, Lil Jon, Outkast, David Banner, etc..they played themselves trying to desensitize the historic negativity of that flag in Hip Hop to something positive, but in actually reinforcing it through the youth of this generation who don't have a grasp on the history of the Confederate flag.

 

[hrap-120]

Nobody was saying that the confederate flag was fine because the word "nigga" is fine as well. What I (and a few others) was saying was that they are equally foul. One of them just happens to be more commonly accepted.

By your logic, as long as all your friends rocked a confederate flag zoot suit it would be ok with you.

But then again I seem to recall you have a history with being concerned more about the clothes men wear than the words they say so maybe not. You lack conviction which is why you're a fraud and a hypocrite and your existence on this site is mostly tolerated as a gimmick.

What you have been saying is that you are intoxicated...along with profanity and off-topic ranting.

By my logic the use of the word "nigga" is considered a cultural norm amongst most Afrikan Americans
By my logic the symbol of the confederate flag is a synbol used primarily by Hate-groups.

But then again I seem to recall that you are a Donkey poster who e-chats about sex-questions with other men.
You lack sense, and you are a fraud and a hypocrite and you dont exist in any matter that coudd/couldnt be tolerated.

Drinking wont chase the pain away.

 

[Pond Scum]

What you have been saying is that you are intoxicated...along with profanity and off-topic ranting.

By my logic the use of the word "nigga" is considered a cultural norm amongst most Afrikan Americans
By my logic the symbol of the confederate flag is a synbol used primarily by Hate-groups.

But then again I seem to recall that you are a Donkey poster who e-chats about sex-questions with other men.
You lack sense, and you are a fraud and a hypocrite and you dont exist in any matter that coudd/couldnt be tolerated.

Drinking wont chase the pain away.

stop being obsessed with my social life. stick to copy/pasting titangraphs so people get bored of the thread and and don't see your logic get dismantled by a drunk loser who posts in donkey sometimes.

make another thread about men who wear dresses or men who wear tight pants.

 

[CityOfGod]

H Rap you stay dropping knowledge but the IC have been questioning your sexuality for a while are you really bi sexual H Rap?

 

[hrap-120]

stop being obsessed with my social life. stick to copy/pasting titangraphs so people get bored of the thread and and don't see your logic get dismantled by a drunk loser who posts in donkey sometimes.

make another thread about men who wear dresses or men who wear tight pants.

Obsessed?? I havent typed your screen-name or claimed to know you, your posting habits, or a familiarity with what you might type.

You can attempt to dismantle logic but you have already served your purpose, I have already gotten a request via P.M. for the P.D.F. on the deeper science of our words.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19335515/The-Word-Naga-n-******

 

[DarkRaiden]

Damn...southern niggas lost for wearing that shit.

Insightful info posted from h-rap. Didn't know it originated from Egyption word for God. That's kinda fucked up that white people changed it to a derogatory word though. I might have to research and see if this shit is true.

And btw confederate flag= symbol of a country that fought for slavery of black people.

Nigga= word used by whites to describe blacks in it's "er form" that is now modified to mean everyone or "person" and is used as verbal ether as whites feel some type of way that they can't say it.

2 totally different movements, two totally different things. People change words meanings from negative to positive and vice versa all the time, but symbols tend to only change for the worse over time, ie. the swastika.

 

[Mumo X]

Fuck Luda............................

 

[Swiffness!]

And these same slaveowners (usually French, especially in Louisiana) often had just as many Irish slaves, or "indentured servants" as black ones. Good luck finding any mention of that in your "text books" at "school".

They freed the white slaves centuries ago because they were scared of the black and white slaves hooking up for sex and rebellion.

I learned this in.....school.

You're a fucking idiot, fuck you, fuck that flag, MotherFuck the Confederacy and everyone who supported/support it.

 

[Swiffness!]

my God

where to begin with the RAMPANT coonery in this thread

....

Let's start with some Civil War History.

"One of the saddest, and yet telling, aspects of the War, for me personally, is that on the two occasions when Confederate troops headed North, they kidnapped free blacks and sold them into slavery. Ditto for black soldiers who were captured and "lucky" enough not to be killed."

quote from the Texas Declaration of Secession:

"in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states"

quote from the Mississippi Declaration of Secession:

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

SO YOU 1 OR 2 DOZEN NEGROES ROCKIN THE DIXIE FLAG IS REPPIN A MOVEMENT THAT WANTED TO KEEP YO BLACK ASS IN THE COTTON FIELD AND SELL YOUR SISTERS TO RAPISTS. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT *YOU* THINK IT STANDS FOR. WEARING A SWASTIKA SHIRT AND SAYING "well, it doesn't mean i support Nazism" WOULDN'T FUCKIN FLY WITH A JEWISH PERSON, WOULD IT? YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT A HISTORICAL SYMBOL DON'T CHANGE THE HISTORICAL *FACT* OF THE EVIL THAT SYMBOL REPRESENTED. YOU DUMB FUCKS. YEAH, KEEP ON ROCKIN THAT FLAG AND GIVIN THESE RACIST REDNECKS THAT OL' "well, blacks do it too" EXCUSE. DUMB, STUPID, IGNORANT, NON-HISTORY-READIN ASS MUHFUCKAS. YOU THINK JIM-BOB IS YOUR FRIEND CUZ YA'LL GOT THE SAME BUMPER STICKER? JIM-BOB THINKS YOU LISTEN TO JUNGLE MUSIC, DON'T WANT YOU SMASHIN HIS SISTER, AND BELIEVES OBAMA GOT ELECTED CUZ OF A AFRICAN CONSPIRACY. JIM-BOB HATES YOUR FUCKIN GUTS.

"By 1860 there were approximately 4,000,000 slaves in the United States, the second largest slave society--slave population--in the world. The only one larger was Russian serfdom. Brazil was close. But in 1860 American slaves, as a financial asset, were worth approximately three and a half billion dollars--that's just as property. Three and a half billion dollars was the net worth, roughly, of slaves in 1860. In today's dollars that would be approximately seventy-five billion dollars. In 1860 slaves as an asset were worth more than all of America's manufacturing, all of the railroads, all of the productive capacity of the United States put together. Slaves were the single largest, by far, financial asset of property in the entire American economy. The only thing worth more than the slaves in the American economy of the 1850s was the land itself, and no one can really put a dollar value on all of the land of North America."

"The God of History binds the Confederacy in its own chains."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/04/the-ghost-of-bobby-lee/38813/

 

[Swiffness!]

and since cats is repostin for emphasis, Imma c&p that on every additional page for you slow muhfuckas

 

[Disciplined InSight]

my God

where to begin with the RAMPANT coonery in this thread

....

Let's start with some Civil War History.

"One of the saddest, and yet telling, aspects of the War, for me personally, is that on the two occasions when Confederate troops headed North, they kidnapped free blacks and sold them into slavery. Ditto for black soldiers who were captured and "lucky" enough not to be killed."

quote from the Texas Declaration of Secession:

"in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states"

quote from the Mississippi Declaration of Secession:

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

SO YOU 1 OR 2 DOZEN NEGROES ROCKIN THE DIXIE FLAG IS REPPIN A MOVEMENT THAT WANTED TO KEEP YO BLACK ASS IN THE COTTON FIELD AND SELL YOUR SISTERS TO RAPISTS. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT *YOU* THINK IT STANDS FOR. WEARING A SWASTIKA SHIRT AND SAYING "well, it doesn't mean i support Nazism" WOULDN'T FUCKIN FLY WITH A JEWISH PERSON, WOULD IT? YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT A HISTORICAL SYMBOL DON'T CHANGE THE HISTORICAL *FACT* OF THE EVIL THAT SYMBOL REPRESENTED. YOU DUMB FUCKS. YEAH, KEEP ON ROCKIN THAT FLAG AND GIVIN THESE RACIST REDNECKS THAT OL' "well, blacks do it too" EXCUSE. DUMB, STUPID, IGNORANT, NON-HISTORY-READIN ASS MUHFUCKAS. YOU THINK JIM-BOB IS YOUR FRIEND CUZ YA'LL GOT THE SAME BUMPER STICKER? JIM-BOB THINKS YOU LISTEN TO JUNGLE MUSIC, DON'T WANT YOU SMASHIN HIS SISTER, AND BELIEVES OBAMA GOT ELECTED CUZ OF A AFRICAN CONSPIRACY. JIM-BOB HATES YOUR FUCKIN GUTS.

"By 1860 there were approximately 4,000,000 slaves in the United States, the second largest slave society--slave population--in the world. The only one larger was Russian serfdom. Brazil was close. But in 1860 American slaves, as a financial asset, were worth approximately three and a half billion dollars--that's just as property. Three and a half billion dollars was the net worth, roughly, of slaves in 1860. In today's dollars that would be approximately seventy-five billion dollars. In 1860 slaves as an asset were worth more than all of America's manufacturing, all of the railroads, all of the productive capacity of the United States put together. Slaves were the single largest, by far, financial asset of property in the entire American economy. The only thing worth more than the slaves in the American economy of the 1850s was the land itself, and no one can really put a dollar value on all of the land of North America."

"The God of History binds the Confederacy in its own chains."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/04/the-ghost-of-bobby-lee/38813/

Co-signature with this post.

 

[hnic1978]

Before i typed this I went through ALL 14 pages of this thread and i only seen ONE PERSON really write the reason why u see Luda in that flag.

Gee Luda why in the hell would you do a performance wearing the confederate flag knowing that it represented slavery and the racism of our people?????

"The discussions that have been sparked after my performance of "Georgia" at the 2005 VIBE Awards is my exact reason for wearing a depiction of the Confederate Flag. This flag represents the oppression that we as African Americans have endured for years; this is a symbol of segregation and the racism that reigned not only throughout the South but throughout the entire United States. I wore it to represent where we came from, to remind people that Ray Charles' original "Georgia" was written because of that racism. At the end of the performance, I removed and stomped on the flag to reveal my version of the flag; a flag comprised of black, red and green. Those are the colors of Africa. It is a representation and my interpretation of where we were and where we need to go. Racism is just as prevelant now and if we are not constantly mindful of our history and take charge of it; history is destined to repeat itself because of ignorance. In order to move forward, we must never forget where we were.

Ya'll just wasted 14 pages of posting BULLSHIT and never really looked at the meaning of why u seen bearing the flag. Yall ever heard of the statement "so smart, u stupid??"

 

[hnic1978]

Also I checked those videos out and it doesn't take a genius to see that they depict the as a part of history about where they are from and represent. In other words taking the bad with the good. I SERIOUSLY doubt that these rappers and are the most proud representatives of Georgia that be on the mic would represent the flag like "slavery is great!!!"

 

[vishis viza]

This doesn't make any sense. You honestly think that wearing a symbol used to represent hate is any different from refferring to each other using a variation of a word used to represent the same hate? Come on man, you can't seirously believe that illogical line of thought.

The N word has been used to terrorize and denigrate blacks for longer than that flag has even existed. Not to mention that you can believe that every hate group out there using that flag is also throwing out the N word profusely. Don't lie to yourself. Using the language of hate in an effort to flip the meaning is no different from using a visual symbol of hate. If you disagree with both, that's fine. However, you can't sit here and intelligently try to defend one while criticizing the other.

Bro I feel you, yourself, me and maybe like 1 other dude on here is the only ones who have made an intelligent remark.... its very simple the N Word to Nigga is NO different then a Black man, trying to "flip the script" on the confederate flag, BOTH were simbles of racism, the word was empowered by blacks, which stripped power from whites, now rather the flag thing will work,should be done or whatever could be debated,its NO different, now think about it,like i said in my post, how can you use MULITPLE raically powered words "nword and coon" in disrespect of your very own black brother,and think your taking a stand? get the fuck outta here.... "i don't like the flag, but i like the white mans words, take that confederate flag down coon! u look stupid "nigga"... you dumb niggas is some dumb niggas... real talk... say homie post no more, just read the comments, read the replys, some clown asked me if i was white, when i obviously said i had the flag up for my state and to flip the script on the white man, that right there let me knew i was in the wrong place, dealin with a str8 fuckin idiot... good post though... we may be the minority, but theres a few smart "niggas" here... sir... lol

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Read and learn something.



Dude, wait this will be awesome!

I dont give a care about some peckerwoods interpretation, Im sharing with you our own science and our own definitions.

Many whites and some negros enjoy playing semantics or deflecting/diverting conscious building with faulty logic, psude-science, and emotion.

If I call my brother a Naga which I often do, (even when typing) their is a depper meaning to it and it is all inclusive to our family.

If my brother is sporting a Confederate flag their is no inclusiveness because the symbol is shared by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen.

Dude cut it out unless you can tell me the etymological root of the word "Dude" and why you use it towards other people.

Come on man, you must have been hanging around its over 2012 lately because your arguments are becoming more and more ridiculous. You know good and well that the word "Nigga" as use in the US has nothing to do with Naga. If that's what's in your mind when you use it, that's fine, but you're probably the only one in the country and I doubt your usage of the word Nigga even have roots in that. Just be honest with yourself. Nigga is a slang variation of the N word. The N word as it has been used in America and the Western world in general has always been used to attack blacks. That's fact. All this looking up African words that are spelled similarly and trying to create some imaginary tie between them and "Nigga" is nonsense.

The only person playing semantics here is you, and you're playing imaginary semantics. What I am saying is factual whether you like it or not. The N word represents hate towards blacks just as much as the confederate flag, maybe even moreso. Whites can actually make the argument that they support that flag for historical reasons not hate. It might not be a good argument but it can be made. There is no argument that whites can make to support usage of the N word. "Nigga" is more acceptable among blacks now but that's only because of decades of usage in an effort to take away it's power. The whole "rocking the confederate flag" fad was an attempt to do the same thing to it.

I'm not saying anyone has to like the fad. I'm from the South. I think it's stupid. You'll never catch me wearing that shit. At the same time, it's stupid for a topic to be made condemning people for promoting one symbol of hate while using a variation of another symbol of hate in the very title of the thread. If you can't see the silliness of that I don't know what to tell you. If you really have a problem with people doing what they do with the confederate flag, you should be in here speaking out against the word "Nigga" too. That would be true building. However, trying to excuse one bad practice because you and your friends do it but attack another one isn't building. At least, not building in a positive manner that will help. It's only hypocrisy.

 

[vishis viza]

Come on man, you must have been hanging around its over 2012 lately because your arguments are becoming more and more ridiculous. You know good and well that the word "Nigga" as use in the US has nothing to do with Naga. If that's what's in your mind when you use it, that's fine, but you're probably the only one in the country and I doubt your usage of the word Nigga even have roots in that. Just be honest with yourself. Nigga is a slang variation of the N word. The N word as it has been used in America and the Western world in general has always been used to attack blacks. That's fact. All this looking up African words that are spelled similarly and trying to create some imaginary tie between them and "Nigga" is nonsense.

The only person playing semantics here is you, and you're playing imaginary semantics. What I am saying is factual whether you like it or not. The N word represents hate towards blacks just as much as the confederate flag, maybe even moreso. Whites can actually make the argument that they support that flag for historical reasons not hate. It might not be a good argument but it can be made. There is no argument that whites can make to support usage of the N word. "Nigga" is more acceptable among blacks now but that's only because of decades of usage in an effort to take away it's power. The whole "rocking the confederate flag" fad was an attempt to do the same thing to it.

I'm not saying anyone has to like the fad. I'm from the South. I think it's stupid. You'll never catch me wearing that shit. At the same time, it's stupid for a topic to be made condemning people for promoting one symbol of hate while using a variation of another symbol of hate in the very title of the thread. If you can't see the silliness of that I don't know what to tell you. If you really have a problem with people doing what they do with the confederate flag, you should be in here speaking out against the word "Nigga" too. That would be true building. However, trying to excuse one bad practice because you and your friends do it but attack another one isn't building. At least, not building in a positive manner that will help. It's only hypocrisy.

CO-SIGN 1 MILLION%..... common sense my ppl..

 

[rip.dilla]

Co-signature with this post.

Make it two...

 

[hrap-120]

my God

where to begin with the RAMPANT coonery in this thread

....

Let's start with some Civil War History.

"One of the saddest, and yet telling, aspects of the War, for me personally, is that on the two occasions when Confederate troops headed North, they kidnapped free blacks and sold them into slavery. Ditto for black soldiers who were captured and "lucky" enough not to be killed."

quote from the Texas Declaration of Secession:

"in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states"

quote from the Mississippi Declaration of Secession:

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

SO YOU 1 OR 2 DOZEN NEGROES ROCKIN THE DIXIE FLAG IS REPPIN A MOVEMENT THAT WANTED TO KEEP YO BLACK ASS IN THE COTTON FIELD AND SELL YOUR SISTERS TO RAPISTS. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT *YOU* THINK IT STANDS FOR. WEARING A SWASTIKA SHIRT AND SAYING "well, it doesn't mean i support Nazism" WOULDN'T FUCKIN FLY WITH A JEWISH PERSON, WOULD IT? YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT A HISTORICAL SYMBOL DON'T CHANGE THE HISTORICAL *FACT* OF THE EVIL THAT SYMBOL REPRESENTED. YOU DUMB FUCKS. YEAH, KEEP ON ROCKIN THAT FLAG AND GIVIN THESE RACIST REDNECKS THAT OL' "well, blacks do it too" EXCUSE. DUMB, STUPID, IGNORANT, NON-HISTORY-READIN ASS MUHFUCKAS. YOU THINK JIM-BOB IS YOUR FRIEND CUZ YA'LL GOT THE SAME BUMPER STICKER? JIM-BOB THINKS YOU LISTEN TO JUNGLE MUSIC, DON'T WANT YOU SMASHIN HIS SISTER, AND BELIEVES OBAMA GOT ELECTED CUZ OF A AFRICAN CONSPIRACY. JIM-BOB HATES YOUR FUCKIN GUTS.

"By 1860 there were approximately 4,000,000 slaves in the United States, the second largest slave society--slave population--in the world. The only one larger was Russian serfdom. Brazil was close. But in 1860 American slaves, as a financial asset, were worth approximately three and a half billion dollars--that's just as property. Three and a half billion dollars was the net worth, roughly, of slaves in 1860. In today's dollars that would be approximately seventy-five billion dollars. In 1860 slaves as an asset were worth more than all of America's manufacturing, all of the railroads, all of the productive capacity of the United States put together. Slaves were the single largest, by far, financial asset of property in the entire American economy. The only thing worth more than the slaves in the American economy of the 1850s was the land itself, and no one can really put a dollar value on all of the land of North America."

"The God of History binds the Confederacy in its own chains."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/04/the-ghost-of-bobby-lee/38813/

You just made a shutdown post.

The silly little gimmick of wearing the flag didnt even last or become a movement, which shows in retrospect how asinine of an idea it was.

 

[rip.dilla]

Ngosi: blessing ( Ibo , Nigeria )

Actually, a "z" is commonly used instead of "s"... but its all good for the 'ledge dropped

And that's my Mom's name

 

[dbrazil412]

i think nothing of it. if they wanna show that they can overcome the past of the region they're from, then do whatever you want to show that.