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Someone Please break down for me the different offensive systems in the NFL
matt-;4079555 said:right. the league is def. pass oriented and more specifically, vertical passing. so to that, i'd say players like Sanchez, alex smith and flacco could not survive in a vertical, pass heavy offense. but players like Brees, Brady, Rodgers would be just fine running the Jets, niners, or ravens offense.
this to me closed the thread
because to assert that a QB is a system qb is to assert that you can plug anyone in at his position and keep the machine running. In science and math, if an equation works to the right, it has to work to the left.
The moment you call "so and so" a system QB you have to:
A) state the system
B) state who else could excel in that system
C) state whether said "system player" would put the other team in a better position to win than the QB he's being compared to
Now you'll notice step B is where you have to do a front to back analysis. So if someone says, "Matthew Stafford could dominate if he was on the Packers."
My immediate response would be, probably, but would the Lions be better with Aaron Rodgers? If the answer is yes, ARod is no longer "just" a system QB.
That comparison has exposed that its ARods personal intangibles that would make the difference regardless of the team.
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b*braze;4082365 said:i dont know why yall seem to think im sayin every great QB in existence is a system QB.
Because you are just an average joe sports fan. You aint puttin in the work that we do. Breaking down game film and what not
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b*braze;4083322 said:he had one of his best season of his career AFTER that in minnesota tho lol
i wish matt ryan was that "worthless"
nah but he had serious shoulder problems that year
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matt-;4083347 said:Because you are just an average joe sports fan. You aint puttin in the work that we do. Breaking down game film and what not
/thread...........
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tru_m.a.c;4083381 said:nah but he had serious shoulder problems that year
torn bicep muscle iirc
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tru_m.a.c;4083307 said:lmao or maybe its cause he was fuckn 40 yrs old and not worth a piece of shit at that point
your example is horrible, you do realize he was injured half of the year right
Yes he was injured but he even said learning the coryell system that the Jets employed was difficult, and after he went to the vikings who ran a very similar version of the WCO as GB did he flourished that year, and actually had a career year. Again certain QB's are better in certain system than others, it doesn't mean they couldn't play in any system, they just wouldn't be as effective, and some systems are a better fit than others
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rage;4082325 said:How about the fact that he doesnt have a ring....all those 3 have a ring. Get a ring then you get into the convo. Romo hasnt done shit to be considered in the same league as those three.
no shit stupid....but give him a line and watch what he does....brees and brady wouldnt be what they are if they played behind the cowboys line....do you watch cowboys games? how many times do you see romo running aroud as soon as the ball is snapped because the line broke down and still making plays? answer is all the time
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bankrupt baller;4084722 said:no shit stupid....but give him a line and watch what he does....brees and brady wouldnt be what they are if they played behind the cowboys line....do you watch cowboys games? how many times do you see romo running aroud as soon as the ball is snapped because the line broke down and still making plays? answer is all the time
I get sick of watching Brady just drop back and turn into a statue. He is legitimately shocked when he is pressured. Shit is mind blowing.
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shieky;4084975 said:I get sick of watching Brady just drop back and turn into a statue. He is legitimately shocked when he is pressured. Shit is mind blowing.
i hate stupid sports fans that act like every qb in the nfl is in the same exact situation....romo is on the level of top qb's he just doesnt have anything that resembles a quality line yet still had the 4th best qb rating this year.....instead lets call him a bum and talk about a fumbled field goal hold from years ago.
im hoping the cowboys draft decastro or go out and sign nicks....that should help.
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matt-;4085012 said:cam newton plays behind the same line that jimmy clausen had. the same line that surrendered 127 sacks last year. great qbs make great plays
yeah but cams a whole different animal ......but yeah obviously romo made great plays because like i said he had 102 qb rating with no line....and only 10 ints(Less than brees and brady)....just like cam made plays without a good line also......but obviously if they both had better lines they would preform better correct?
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bankrupt baller;4084722 said:no shit stupid....but give him a line and watch what he does....brees and brady wouldnt be what they are if they played behind the cowboys line....do you watch cowboys games? how many times do you see romo running aroud as soon as the ball is snapped because the line broke down and still making plays? answer is all the time
Again, dumbass cowgirl fans showing out again
Romo 36 sacks on the year. Brady 34, Rodgers 36...
Keep coppin pleas for Romo, no wonder you bitches get bounced every year.
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rage;4085063 said:Again, dumbass cowgirl fans showing out again
Romo 36 sacks on the year. Brady 34, Rodgers 36...
Keep coppin pleas for Romo, no wonder you bitches get bounced every year.
so one qb cant avoid a sack that another would have taken?
shut your stupid ass up....brady would have taken about 50 fucking sacks behind the cowboys line.
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matt-;4085062 said:So Cam is an animal now? Raycess!
i knew you were gonna say that lol
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shieky;4084975 said:I get sick of watching Brady just drop back and turn into a statue. He is legitimately shocked when he is pressured. Shit is mind blowing.
1. all QBs get shocked when they are pressured, that's the point of rushing the QB...how A.Rodgers or D.brees looks this past weekend
2. if you seen Brady play this year, he's been sacked and rushed and move out the pocket plenty of times and made plays..
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bankrupt baller;4085075 said:so one qb cant avoid a sack that another would have taken?
shut your stupid ass up....brady would have taken about 50 fucking sacks behind the cowboys line.
and you know this how?
you talk about this subject and keep ignoring the one simple important think..."excution" what does the QB do when he is rushed
do we really need to show all the bone headed mistakes Romo's made this year, it's been said way too much..the top tier QBs even rushed make better decisions...romo...ahh no doesnt
proven fact. Shit romo throws stupid ints even when he is not rushed.
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rage;4085063 said:Again, dumbass cowgirl fans showing out again
Romo 36 sacks on the year. Brady 34, Rodgers 36...
Keep coppin pleas for Romo, no wonder you bitches get bounced every year.
interesting to see, for the posters talking about brady's line being better, or Rodgers is better because he can rush out the pocket.....they both just about equal in sacks...a
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ghost!;4085098 said:and you know this how?
you talk about this subject and keep ignoring the one simple important think..."excution" what does the QB do when he is rushed
do we really need to show all the bone headed mistakes Romo's made this year, it's been said way too much..the top tier QBs even rushed make better decisions...romo...ahh no doesnt
proven fact. Shit romo throws stupid ints even when he is not rushed.
lol oh you mean romos 10 ints to bradys 12?
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