Someone Please break down for me the different offensive systems in the NFL

[playmaker88]

Football is a team game... Brady has a great offensive line and the best tight end duo ive seen and everybody shines cause everyone pulls their weight ya know... Brady is Extremely sound fundamentally his passes are thrown on a rope... have you seen a tebow passes im not sure he can throw a spiral to save his life... Brady is great.Brady plays a huge role in the way their offense works... Compared to a Tebow and by the way im not hating tebow im just trying to make a point you have to be able to do certain things to thrive in a offensive scheme... Just like a wide receiver needs to be able to catch the ball a quarterback needs to be accurate Brady is accurate and he succeeds its simple...

Lol @ this elementary school persuasive essay

 

[TB.Boy]

Lol @ this elementary school persuasive essay

Haha yeah fuck grammar i wrote that fast as shit

 

[rage]

The we run just so this dude works for his money system..

Rage you are seriously mistaken.. you dont think the greatest show on Turf was a system that was a precursor to what we see every week? Do you realize the amount of stress on an average defense this type of offense has.. you literally have to defend the entire field.

Greatest show on turf isnt a system its a philosophy and game plan. The Option is a system, the wild cat is a system. The Greatest show on turf looks like a system because it looks like the west coast offence. Breezy, Brady, Rodgers ets are not part of any system, what they are is a part of a game plan and philosophy of a high powered passing offence. They are successful at this game plan because of their skill set. Others either do not have this skill set *cough* Tebow*cough* or just arent as proficient as these three. Thats all it is.

 

[playmaker88]

Haha yeah fuck grammar i wrote that fast as shit

nah it wasnt the grammar.

 

[TB.Boy]

I've seen a lot of people say that Rodgers is a system QB too...that's one of the most outlandish statements I've ever heard.

A lot of people seem to imply that a system QB is one that got placed into a good situation where almost any QB could succeed. Similar to how people say the RBs under Shanahan had numbers based off his system rather than their talent level.

The Packers have a great group of receivers, nelson,driver,jennings,jones, finley but i see what people see when they say system quarterback they will see a Matt cassel or a Matt flynn and assume wait he put up the same numbers as brady or rodgers damn their overated. It makes sense but after seeing tebow play i learned how terrible an nfl quarterback could be if you cant throw you cant throw. I do feel the quarterback position can be a bit hyped at times not overated but overhyped there is a difference.

 

[TB.Boy]

nah it wasnt the grammar.

What was it?

 

[playmaker88]

Greatest show on turf isnt a system its a philosophy and game plan. The Option is a system, the wild cat is a system. The Greatest show on turf looks like a system because it looks like the west coast offence. Breezy, Brady, Rodgers ets are not part of any system, what they are is a part of a game plan and philosophy of a high powered passing offence. They are successful at this game plan because of their skill set. Others either do not have this skill set *cough* Tebow*cough* or just arent as proficient as these three. Thats all it is.

If they didnt have that structure thats supports them. the philosophy wouldnt matter so much.. i can dig some ofwhat your are saying though

 

[TB.Boy]

The Packers do have a lot of weapons but I don't see how you can watch Rodgers play and think "man he really wouldn't succeed anywhere else...he better be glad he's in Green Bay"...dude can flat out ball and people forget how mobile he is

Rodgers is good.He could succeed anywhere just about he prolly couldnt run that tebow offence denver tried but hell tebow could do it either

 

[its....JOHN B]

its bad enough when people dont credit Brady because hes a "system" qb, but the funniest shit i read all day was Gronkowski not being a top 5 te because hes a "system" tight end lol

 

[playmaker88]

its bad enough when people dont credit Brady because hes a "system" qb, but the funniest shit i read all day was Gronkowski not being a top 5 te because hes a "system" tight end lol

I think he has the attribute to be a great te.. but idk everything in that SYSTEM.. is overrated.. to a degree.

 

[Darius]

its bad enough when people dont credit Brady because hes a "system" qb, but the funniest shit i read all day was Gronkowski not being a top 5 te because hes a "system" tight end lol

I know right. He has great numbers because his team passes alot and he has a great qb, but that in now way makes him a system player. Giving someone that label implies that they are only good because of those reasons. Great players are great regardless of where they play. Their skills don't change, the only thing that would change is the way they were utilized or the opportunities they are given

 

[shieky]

One thing I hate in ALL sports is when somebody discredits an athlete because he uses the tools around him...such and such is only great because of others around him...such and such only wins because of the team he's on...etc.

I thought the object of a team sport was to utilize everybody on the team...not Rodgers/Brady fault their Owners/GMs know what the fuck they are doing.

In some instances it is valid though.

Eli Manning has basically closed his eyes, thrown the ball high in the air off his back foot and said a quick prayer MANY times during his career. Only to have his receivers beast and bail him out. Other quarterbacks obviously can't get away with that because they don't have the talent around them.

Brady and Brees can throw to any scrub in the world and make them look good. They are accurate enough to throw receivers open. They don't need amazing talent nor do they need receivers to bail them out for poor throws.

But there are guys out there who will just throw in the general direction of a receiver and hope for the best. We tend to call them gunslingers.

 

[shieky]

So Delhomme gotta be a top 5 system QB with Steve "Black Jesus" Smith back in the day.

Shiiiiiit. He was the first one that came to mind lmao.

I can't tell you how many times he would throw up prayers and Moose and Steve would bail him out.... just against my eagles..

Man. Fuck that nigga.

 

[playmaker88]

Those are terrible examples of System qb's yah i agree at a pointin elis career he would throw off the back foot and pray that plax would bail him out.. but he is a good qb.. as much as it pains me to say...

 

[shieky]

Neither one of us called them system quarterbacks. It was moreso about players being discredited for having good players around them.

I don't really buy the whole system qb thing to begin with.

 

[smittysmith]

This league is predicated on the QB. Every franchise that has won a title has had a HOF or Top Flight QB and once they've lost them have disappeared into irrelevancy. The only occassions where this hasn't happened is when a team has had one of the all time great defenses ('85 Bears, '00 Ravens, etc).

What have the Cowboys, 9er's, Dolphins, Bills, Raiders, Broncos, and Rams done since losing the top flight QB's. Meanwhile teams like the Saints, Packers, Pats, Chargers, and Steelers are yearly contenders because they have ATG QB's. If you don't have a QB that can distribute the ball or atleast manage situations (Brady's 1st 3 yrs) you aren't going to have success because truly great defenses don't come around that often.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

I've seen a lot of people say that Rodgers is a system QB too...that's one of the most outlandish statements I've ever heard.

A lot of people seem to imply that a system QB is one that got placed into a good situation where almost any QB could succeed. Similar to how people say the RBs under Shanahan had numbers based off his system rather than their talent level.

Co-sign .......

it's one of the dumbest things i've seen in CS

 

[blackrain]

The 20 seconds in the pocket system.. the matt cassel ballin 1 year and playin like tim couch the next year system

The talent level in KC and NE were on two very different levels

 

[Darius]

bottom line is there are qb's who will do well in any offense. just because they play well in a certain offense for a few years and their backup plays well in that offense for a couple games, does not in any way mean the original qb is simply a system qb. and just because a quarterback plays in one offense his entire career doesn't make him a system qb

 

[John_Blazini]

The talent level in KC and NE were on two very different levels

exactly lol he had better niggas to throw too.. people just look at the obvious TD's number of yards thrown for... what about the little things that Brady Brees and rodgers do like reading defense... accuracy, timing, mechanics shit that you either have or dont have... these things a make those guys elite IMO..