So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

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Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.
 
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You should watch those videos I posted. They're just fact lists
 
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You think that the government needed a false flag operation to get control? Cointelpro already showed us that they could have done that without bombing important installations at home. The only reason it wasn't implemented previously is because Clinton was in office. Bush would have found a way regardless.
 
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Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)
 
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Jabu_Rule;8353290 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You think that the government needed a false flag operation to get control? Cointelpro already showed us that they could have done that without bombing important installations at home. The only reason it wasn't implemented previously is because Clinton was in office. Bush would have found a way regardless.

Like I said, I'm not sold on the conspiracy theory.

xxCivicxx;8353275 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You should watch those videos I posted. They're just fact lists

I have a 4 hour train ride to NYC later, maybe I'll get bored enough to watch YouTube conspiracy videos
 
BobOblah;8353355 said:
Jabu_Rule;8353290 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You think that the government needed a false flag operation to get control? Cointelpro already showed us that they could have done that without bombing important installations at home. The only reason it wasn't implemented previously is because Clinton was in office. Bush would have found a way regardless.

Like I said, I'm not sold on the conspiracy theory.

xxCivicxx;8353275 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You should watch those videos I posted. They're just fact lists

I have a 4 hour train ride to NYC later, maybe I'll get bored enough to watch YouTube conspiracy videos

Oh so you're just looking for attention by posting in this thread. I was polite and you're being disrespectful.

This is why I normally don't try and help the ignorant
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


I'm listening to this video right now and I'm going to educate you each time I come to something stupid

1. Within the first minute he says that he didn't believe the official story until he went to school and learned about CITED SOURCES? If he didn't learn that in middle school then he's an idiot that shouldn't be broadcasting ignorance to the population.

Everything that I have posted in this thread has cited sources, like I said before. Then he goes on to denigrate the word CONSPIRACY, just like I said you people do in order to keep others ignorant

The video starts out as trash and I'm only 1 minute in. More coming
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


Idealogical echo chamber @2:21? Doesn't that describe the people who consistently turn a blind eye to the dumb shit that the government does

And again with the low self-esteem talk. This dude is basically saying that he's not smart enough to understand what's going on that governmental level, and that's exactly what you're saying.

Just because you lack the intellect do figure something out that's blatantly in your face, you arrogantly decide that no one is intelligent enough to?

Still no facts in this vid by the way and I'm like 5 minutes in. It's just a dude saying that taking a college course ON HUMANITIES changes his opinion of 9/11...
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


Oh and @4:23 one of the idiots in the video says that the "conspiracy theory" is that the government did this to start a war so that "arms companies could test out their contracts"? Huh?

War is a VERY profitable industry for bankers, I posted a video in this thread last year that links most modern age wars to the banking system because they usually fund both sides and profit from both sides of most wars in recent history.

This video is 2 dummies talking dumb shit between them but I'm gonna keep going because I'm not scared to watch a video, no matter how ignorant it is
 
xxCivicxx;8353364 said:
BobOblah;8353355 said:
Jabu_Rule;8353290 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You think that the government needed a false flag operation to get control? Cointelpro already showed us that they could have done that without bombing important installations at home. The only reason it wasn't implemented previously is because Clinton was in office. Bush would have found a way regardless.

Like I said, I'm not sold on the conspiracy theory.

xxCivicxx;8353275 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You should watch those videos I posted. They're just fact lists

I have a 4 hour train ride to NYC later, maybe I'll get bored enough to watch YouTube conspiracy videos

Oh so you're just looking for attention by posting in this thread. I was polite and you're being disrespectful.

This is why I normally don't try and help the ignorant

Lol not tryna be disrespectful to you man, I'm just suspicious of YouTube conspiracy videos because there's a lot of nutjobs uploading those
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


@4:56 they question how 3 buildings can be rigged with explosives without anyone knowing. I LITERALLY just explained that to you, just like I did last year, AND I also posted an article last year that you ignored.

Again, this trash video is how you're trying to argue against fact? More coming
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


@5:37 one of the idiots starts talking about a conspiracy in which the bombs were placed in the buildings when they were created. Again, trying to confuse the issue. That sounds completely retarded. I've never heard of that theory NOR have I seen any sort of evidence backing it so I'm just gonna assume that this dude in the video made it up and threw it out there

 
Civic, dude...Lol @ "you refuse to accept facts right in front of you" (your videos)...

vs

You ignoring WATCHING 2 planes fly into the towers, live on tv. In real time

Lets do this, instead of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, what is your ACTUAL version of events, the whole thing, what EXACTLY do you think happened? On my word i will read every sentence, no matter how long @xxCivicxx
 
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BobOblah;8353407 said:
xxCivicxx;8353364 said:
BobOblah;8353355 said:
Jabu_Rule;8353290 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You think that the government needed a false flag operation to get control? Cointelpro already showed us that they could have done that without bombing important installations at home. The only reason it wasn't implemented previously is because Clinton was in office. Bush would have found a way regardless.

Like I said, I'm not sold on the conspiracy theory.

xxCivicxx;8353275 said:
BobOblah;8353240 said:
Idk it's not that I wouldn't put it past our government to do some terrible shit, more that I don't buy the logic of the conspiracy theory. They coulda done less than kill 3000 Americans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking down the towers is OD.

Although on second thought for people to be ok with all that Patriot Act/ loss of freedoms/ NSA watching everyone shit people had to be really scared. Govt certainly gained more control domestically from it.

You should watch those videos I posted. They're just fact lists

I have a 4 hour train ride to NYC later, maybe I'll get bored enough to watch YouTube conspiracy videos

Oh so you're just looking for attention by posting in this thread. I was polite and you're being disrespectful.

This is why I normally don't try and help the ignorant

Lol not tryna be disrespectful to you man, I'm just suspicious of YouTube conspiracy videos because there's a lot of nutjobs uploading those

That's not what you said tho.

Do you think I'm a nutjob?
 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


Half way through and STILL no evidence disproving any of the facts that I have posted in this thread

Please point me to some facts from this video
 
S2J;8353422 said:
Civic, dude...Lol @ "you refuse to accept facts right in front of you" (your videos)...

vs

You ignoring WATCHING 2 planes fly into the towers, live on tv. In real time

Lets do this, instead of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, what is your ACTUAL version of events, the whole thing, what EXACTLY do you think happened? On my word i will read every sentence, no matter how long @xxCivicxx

Once again, the the government conspired to commit an act on us soil traumatic enough to SEVERELY limit individual liberties and GREATLY expand the scope of power of the federal government. Is that clear enough for you? Can you comprehend this?

 
VIBE;8353343 said:
Here's a good video on how one man went from 9/11 truther to critical think (steering away from conspiracies)


One of the dudes in the vid doesn't believe that the government helped kill jfk...

Again, this is your proof?

Now they're talking about the x-files and religion and aliens
 
Jabu_Rule;8353424 said:
Damn, @VIBE you really got this dude losing it over that video.. Lol.

I'm not losing it, I'm showing him that I can review something and pick it a part when it's trash. He's ignoring most of what I post and I'm showing him that he's being disingenuous in this thread
 
Now they're just rambling about nothing at the end of the video. Where are the plane wings and the plane seats at the pentagon crash?

@vibe you really gotta do better
 

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