So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

[xxCivicxx]

Civic, dude...Lol @ "you refuse to accept facts right in front of you" (your videos)...

vs

You ignoring WATCHING 2 planes fly into the towers, live on tv. In real time

Lets do this, instead of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, what is your ACTUAL version of events, the whole thing, what EXACTLY do you think happened? On my word i will read every sentence, no matter how long @xxCivicxx

Once again, the the government conspired to commit an act on us soil traumatic enough to SEVERELY limit individual liberties and GREATLY expand the scope of power of the federal government. Is that clear enough for you? Can you comprehend this?

I literally lol'd. Thats not an explanation lmao

Thats telling me what was the motive. If i rob a dope dealer i can get money and crack. That is motive. That doesnt mean im gonna do it.

What ACTUALLY happened. Very simple question.

The government destroyed the wtc buildings and proceeded to invade the majority of middle eastern oil-producing companies...again, what are you not comprehending?

It seems like you're asking me to walk you through the entirety of the event of 9/11 but I'm not your daddy and you're not a child. I have provided lots and lots of information here that you should be capable of reading

And, once again, you are focused on the wrong thing as usual. How could I tell you EXACTLY why happened on 9/11? I wasn't there. The ISSUE is that HISTORICAL FACT DICTATES THAT THE OFFICIAL STORY IS NOT TRUE. If the official story is a lie then the government has a reason for lying, and that is to conceal intent.

Again, what are you not understanding? Notice how I'm answering your questions but you're still too scared to watch 3 videos

Lmao With no buildup, planning, key conspirators, or any in between huh lol smh

Yea u a youngin. You cant replace substance by just pretending to overstand and by getting 'cute'. Everyone reading your shit sees right through you lil homie.

Id respect you more if you just said "i have no idea how they did it, but i think they did it', rather than pretending your comedically hollow theories are "obvious"

Yo, please stop saying stupid things. This first sentence is false, and if you watched those videos I posted you would be embarrassed that you posted that.

Idk how you're not already too embarrassed to keep posting

 

[VIBE]

It's not a proof video. It's about how shitty conspiracy theories are and the mindset they're in vs critical thinking.

Stop playing dumb.

If this was truly the point of that video then it's even MORE of a shitty video because nothing of substance was stated. They use buzz words like "9/11 truthers" and "confirmation bias" to try and come off as some sort of intellectual authority but they're talking about how an entry level liberal arts college course changed their entire frame of thought

These are the people that you get your information from?

At the end of the day, a conspiracy theorist will do whatever is necessary to support their evidence. Which is why he brought up the bombs being put in when first constructed. The man he says said this is Richard Gage, ever heard of him? It's the man who started the 9/11 "truther movement" Architechs and Engineers for 9/11. He is the fact of all of that. If he truly says "maybe the bombs were placed in the buildings at the time of its construction, then how can you take this man, or his group seriously? That's his point.

All major events are all exposed as some sort of conspiracy and logic escapes them all.

His whole point is that he was once a truther and seen their bullshit and changed his stance.

It's exposing their mindset, YOUR mindset. Yet, you will continue to deny this, as if you're above it, you're not.

 

[xxCivicxx]

The video VIBE posted is part of a longer podcast

Oh ok, show me where they disprove anything I have said?

I'm just posting the video bruh. They are speaking more generally about psudeo science and conspiracy theories. I mean, we just discussed Osama's importance prior to 911 where people were denying his very relevance. Others have spoken with you regarding other evidence. But you take it how you want to i suppose.

Y'all keep using this word but I don't think y'all know what it means

Like i said, others have spoken to you, not me, so i don't know what you take as evidence, but i know that i laid out the information regarding Bin Laden effectively to the point where you cosigned me. Still, if the lives of people lost on a flight isn't evidence, then i don't know what you think evidence really is..

I cosigned the fact that you know that osama bin laden committed terrorist acts prior to 9/11 and that the GOVERNMENT(not the average american citizen) were aware of him but allowed a terrorist who had already murdered americans to continue to roam freely when it was WELL within the government's power to bring him in WAY before 9/11

What did you think I was cosigning?

Lmao. You were cosigning Osama's relevance (where as it was said that he had none) and the reasons why Clinton didn't go after him (you kept asking why). And the public did know, at least those who watched the news. The Cole Bombing was huge fucking news and everybody was pointing at that dude.

The question was and still is rhetorical. I'm not sure what you think you read

The fact remains that the us could have and should have tracked osama down in the 90s(if he was the threat that they say he was) and they didn't

 

[xxCivicxx]

It's not a proof video. It's about how shitty conspiracy theories are and the mindset they're in vs critical thinking.

Stop playing dumb.

If this was truly the point of that video then it's even MORE of a shitty video because nothing of substance was stated. They use buzz words like "9/11 truthers" and "confirmation bias" to try and come off as some sort of intellectual authority but they're talking about how an entry level liberal arts college course changed their entire frame of thought

These are the people that you get your information from?

At the end of the day, a conspiracy theorist will do whatever is necessary to support their evidence. Which is why he brought up the bombs being put in when first constructed. The man he says said this is Richard Gage, ever heard of him? It's the man who started the 9/11 "truther movement" Architechs and Engineers for 9/11. He is the fact of all of that. If he truly says "maybe the bombs were placed in the buildings at the time of its construction, then how can you take this man, or his group seriously? That's his point.

All major events are all exposed as some sort of conspiracy and logic escapes them all.

His whole point is that he was once a truther and seen their bullshit and changed his stance.

It's exposing their mindset, YOUR mindset. Yet, you will continue to deny this, as if you're above it, you're not.

You're the one that keeps bringing in "truther" talk. I don't know what that is and I'm not one

Once again, my opinion is based on historical fact

 

[S2J]

[Spoiler ]AP

Hilda Taylor of Forestville, Md., worked to broaden educational opportunities for her sixth-graders at Leckie Elementary. The Sierra Leone native planned to accompany her class on a camping trip in November. "She was like the mother, the grandmother, the authoritarian, the disciplinarian. She was fun, and she was no nonsense," Sessoms says. Taylor lived with her two grown sons and her 8-year-old grandson, Reinhardt Stafford. "The last call she made before she got on the plane was to Reinhardt to tell him she loved him," Sessoms says.

Sandra Teague, 31, of Washington, was a physical therapist at Georgetown Hospital. Up to last year, Teague lived and worked Des Moines, Iowa. She was en route to Australia for a dream vacation.

Whittington

Georgetown University professor Leslie A. Whittington, Charles S. Falkenberg, both 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3, were headed for Australia where Whittington was going to be a visiting fellow at the Australian National University in Canberra. She was an economist and associate professor of public policy at Georgetown University. She recently published a series of papers on the "marriage tax" and studied the economic role and status of women. She had taught a course entitled "Race, Gender and the Job Market" with 1984 Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro. "Her humor, dynamism in the classroom and passion for teaching made her a favorite professor and a sought-after mentor," says Liza Hetherington, a student at Georgetown University's Public Policy Institute. Falkenberg was a software engineer for ECOlogic. He helped develop software to evaluate the effects of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill and was working on a project for NASA.



AP

John Yamnicky, 71, of Waldorf, Md., graduated from the Naval Academy and spent 30 years with the Navy, including a stint flying jets in Vietnam. His passions, said Janet, his wife of 41 years, were "flying and his children and grandchildren and traveling. We live on a farm. He loved riding the tractor and doing farmwork." An aeronautical engineer for Veridian, he also leaves four children. Yamnicky left home for the airport at 4:30 a.m. Tuesday. "He told me goodbye," his wife says.

Vicki Yancey, 43, of Springfield, Va., was headed to Reno on business. She leaves a husband and two daughters. On her Web site, she wrote about her enthusiasm for figure skating, astrology and politics and noted proudly that she testified before Congress in 1991 about the difficulties of being a middle-class working mother. She recently took her first trip to Europe, a visit to Iceland with her brothers during which she marveled at the landscape and rode a pony.

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66 people died in that plane. Read the bios. Click that link and LOOK AT THEIR FACES. Read the family member accounts. Explain that shit. Dont point me to no fucking hereswhatreallyhappened.com. Explain that or shut the fuk up. And if u feel THAT is a hoax too, that those people and their faces arent real, i wanna see you type that so everybody can see how fuking silly you look.

I'm asking you for evidence and you come back with a feminine emotional appeal

You should just sit the rest of this out man, you're really not contributing anything nor have you refuted anything I have said

Aight...can another 9/11 truther come in and speak for the movement? Yall might wanna distance yourselves from this dude.

Save that cute shit man, we're adults. That 'im too good to even respond ' is for lil niggas. Those are names of flight victims at the Pentagon. If it were Spades, thats the big Joker

Someone else from team conspiracy please reply.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

The video VIBE posted is part of a longer podcast

Oh ok, show me where they disprove anything I have said?

I'm just posting the video bruh. They are speaking more generally about psudeo science and conspiracy theories. I mean, we just discussed Osama's importance prior to 911 where people were denying his very relevance. Others have spoken with you regarding other evidence. But you take it how you want to i suppose.

Y'all keep using this word but I don't think y'all know what it means

Like i said, others have spoken to you, not me, so i don't know what you take as evidence, but i know that i laid out the information regarding Bin Laden effectively to the point where you cosigned me. Still, if the lives of people lost on a flight isn't evidence, then i don't know what you think evidence really is..

I cosigned the fact that you know that osama bin laden committed terrorist acts prior to 9/11 and that the GOVERNMENT(not the average american citizen) were aware of him but allowed a terrorist who had already murdered americans to continue to roam freely when it was WELL within the government's power to bring him in WAY before 9/11

What did you think I was cosigning?

Lmao. You were cosigning Osama's relevance (where as it was said that he had none) and the reasons why Clinton didn't go after him (you kept asking why). And the public did know, at least those who watched the news. The Cole Bombing was huge fucking news and everybody was pointing at that dude.

The question was and still is rhetorical. I'm not sure what you think you read

The fact remains that the us could have and should have tracked osama down in the 90s(if he was the threat that they say he was) and they didn't

You full of shit nigga. I told you time and time again why and elaborated in detail about the state of the presidency, UN involvement, and the nature of Osama's organization in comparison with those that came before him. You really do have tunnel vision. Take back you cosign bruh.

 

[xxCivicxx]

[Spoiler ]AP

Hilda Taylor of Forestville, Md., worked to broaden educational opportunities for her sixth-graders at Leckie Elementary. The Sierra Leone native planned to accompany her class on a camping trip in November. "She was like the mother, the grandmother, the authoritarian, the disciplinarian. She was fun, and she was no nonsense," Sessoms says. Taylor lived with her two grown sons and her 8-year-old grandson, Reinhardt Stafford. "The last call she made before she got on the plane was to Reinhardt to tell him she loved him," Sessoms says.

Sandra Teague, 31, of Washington, was a physical therapist at Georgetown Hospital. Up to last year, Teague lived and worked Des Moines, Iowa. She was en route to Australia for a dream vacation.

Whittington

Georgetown University professor Leslie A. Whittington, Charles S. Falkenberg, both 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3, were headed for Australia where Whittington was going to be a visiting fellow at the Australian National University in Canberra. She was an economist and associate professor of public policy at Georgetown University. She recently published a series of papers on the "marriage tax" and studied the economic role and status of women. She had taught a course entitled "Race, Gender and the Job Market" with 1984 Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro. "Her humor, dynamism in the classroom and passion for teaching made her a favorite professor and a sought-after mentor," says Liza Hetherington, a student at Georgetown University's Public Policy Institute. Falkenberg was a software engineer for ECOlogic. He helped develop software to evaluate the effects of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill and was working on a project for NASA.



AP

John Yamnicky, 71, of Waldorf, Md., graduated from the Naval Academy and spent 30 years with the Navy, including a stint flying jets in Vietnam. His passions, said Janet, his wife of 41 years, were "flying and his children and grandchildren and traveling. We live on a farm. He loved riding the tractor and doing farmwork." An aeronautical engineer for Veridian, he also leaves four children. Yamnicky left home for the airport at 4:30 a.m. Tuesday. "He told me goodbye," his wife says.

Vicki Yancey, 43, of Springfield, Va., was headed to Reno on business. She leaves a husband and two daughters. On her Web site, she wrote about her enthusiasm for figure skating, astrology and politics and noted proudly that she testified before Congress in 1991 about the difficulties of being a middle-class working mother. She recently took her first trip to Europe, a visit to Iceland with her brothers during which she marveled at the landscape and rode a pony.

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66 people died in that plane. Read the bios. Click that link and LOOK AT THEIR FACES. Read the family member accounts. Explain that shit. Dont point me to no fucking hereswhatreallyhappened.com. Explain that or shut the fuk up. And if u feel THAT is a hoax too, that those people and their faces arent real, i wanna see you type that so everybody can see how fuking silly you look.

I'm asking you for evidence and you come back with a feminine emotional appeal

You should just sit the rest of this out man, you're really not contributing anything nor have you refuted anything I have said

Aight...can another 9/11 truther come in and speak for the movement? Yall might wanna distance yourselves from this dude.

Save that cute shit man, we're adults. That 'im too good to even respond ' is for lil niggas. Those are names of flight victims at the Pentagon. If it were Spades, thats the big Joker

Someone else from team conspiracy please reply.

All this shit talking, you've embarrassed yourself multiple times in this thread(a lot of it is quoted so you can't backtrack) and you STILL haven't watched those videos that you've apparently "seen 10 times before I even saw them once".

Still dodging literally everything I have posted in this thread

And I've responded to your every post so what are you even talking about

 

[xxCivicxx]

The video VIBE posted is part of a longer podcast

Oh ok, show me where they disprove anything I have said?

I'm just posting the video bruh. They are speaking more generally about psudeo science and conspiracy theories. I mean, we just discussed Osama's importance prior to 911 where people were denying his very relevance. Others have spoken with you regarding other evidence. But you take it how you want to i suppose.

Y'all keep using this word but I don't think y'all know what it means

Like i said, others have spoken to you, not me, so i don't know what you take as evidence, but i know that i laid out the information regarding Bin Laden effectively to the point where you cosigned me. Still, if the lives of people lost on a flight isn't evidence, then i don't know what you think evidence really is..

I cosigned the fact that you know that osama bin laden committed terrorist acts prior to 9/11 and that the GOVERNMENT(not the average american citizen) were aware of him but allowed a terrorist who had already murdered americans to continue to roam freely when it was WELL within the government's power to bring him in WAY before 9/11

What did you think I was cosigning?

Lmao. You were cosigning Osama's relevance (where as it was said that he had none) and the reasons why Clinton didn't go after him (you kept asking why). And the public did know, at least those who watched the news. The Cole Bombing was huge fucking news and everybody was pointing at that dude.

The question was and still is rhetorical. I'm not sure what you think you read

The fact remains that the us could have and should have tracked osama down in the 90s(if he was the threat that they say he was) and they didn't

You full of shit nigga. I told you time and time again why and elaborated in detail about the state of the presidency, UN involvement, and the nature of Osama's organization in comparison with those that came before him. You really do have tunnel vision. Take back you cosign bruh.

Nah I cosigned you to chill you out because you were rambling about nothing. The us government has a long history of doing what it wants and the un has never been able to stop a single thing.

If we wanted osama before 9/11 we would have had him

 

[Jabu_Rule]

The video VIBE posted is part of a longer podcast

Oh ok, show me where they disprove anything I have said?

I'm just posting the video bruh. They are speaking more generally about psudeo science and conspiracy theories. I mean, we just discussed Osama's importance prior to 911 where people were denying his very relevance. Others have spoken with you regarding other evidence. But you take it how you want to i suppose.

Y'all keep using this word but I don't think y'all know what it means

Like i said, others have spoken to you, not me, so i don't know what you take as evidence, but i know that i laid out the information regarding Bin Laden effectively to the point where you cosigned me. Still, if the lives of people lost on a flight isn't evidence, then i don't know what you think evidence really is..

I cosigned the fact that you know that osama bin laden committed terrorist acts prior to 9/11 and that the GOVERNMENT(not the average american citizen) were aware of him but allowed a terrorist who had already murdered americans to continue to roam freely when it was WELL within the government's power to bring him in WAY before 9/11

What did you think I was cosigning?

Lmao. You were cosigning Osama's relevance (where as it was said that he had none) and the reasons why Clinton didn't go after him (you kept asking why). And the public did know, at least those who watched the news. The Cole Bombing was huge fucking news and everybody was pointing at that dude.

The question was and still is rhetorical. I'm not sure what you think you read

The fact remains that the us could have and should have tracked osama down in the 90s(if he was the threat that they say he was) and they didn't

You full of shit nigga. I told you time and time again why and elaborated in detail about the state of the presidency, UN involvement, and the nature of Osama's organization in comparison with those that came before him. You really do have tunnel vision. Take back you cosign bruh.

Nah I cosigned you to chill you out because you were rambling about nothing. The us government has a long history of doing what it wants and the un has never been able to stop a single thing.

If we wanted osama before 9/11 we would have had him

I'm gonna chill out alright. Welp, i guess you got me. Lmao. Damn fools on this forum..

 

[xxCivicxx]

The video VIBE posted is part of a longer podcast

Oh ok, show me where they disprove anything I have said?

I'm just posting the video bruh. They are speaking more generally about psudeo science and conspiracy theories. I mean, we just discussed Osama's importance prior to 911 where people were denying his very relevance. Others have spoken with you regarding other evidence. But you take it how you want to i suppose.

Y'all keep using this word but I don't think y'all know what it means

Like i said, others have spoken to you, not me, so i don't know what you take as evidence, but i know that i laid out the information regarding Bin Laden effectively to the point where you cosigned me. Still, if the lives of people lost on a flight isn't evidence, then i don't know what you think evidence really is..

I cosigned the fact that you know that osama bin laden committed terrorist acts prior to 9/11 and that the GOVERNMENT(not the average american citizen) were aware of him but allowed a terrorist who had already murdered americans to continue to roam freely when it was WELL within the government's power to bring him in WAY before 9/11

What did you think I was cosigning?

Lmao. You were cosigning Osama's relevance (where as it was said that he had none) and the reasons why Clinton didn't go after him (you kept asking why). And the public did know, at least those who watched the news. The Cole Bombing was huge fucking news and everybody was pointing at that dude.

The question was and still is rhetorical. I'm not sure what you think you read

The fact remains that the us could have and should have tracked osama down in the 90s(if he was the threat that they say he was) and they didn't

You full of shit nigga. I told you time and time again why and elaborated in detail about the state of the presidency, UN involvement, and the nature of Osama's organization in comparison with those that came before him. You really do have tunnel vision. Take back you cosign bruh.

Nah I cosigned you to chill you out because you were rambling about nothing. The us government has a long history of doing what it wants and the un has never been able to stop a single thing.

If we wanted osama before 9/11 we would have had him

I'm gonna chill out alright. Welp, i guess you got me. Lmao. Damn fools on this forum..

It ended that line of conversation did it not?

 

[Preach2Teach]

I think it was an inside job for sure, the evidence is right there for everyone to see!! building 7 is the smoking gun.

 

[VIBE]

If flight 175 didn't hit the pentagon, what did? Why are there plane parts everywhere? Where did flight 175 go? What about the people? The family of those who mourn their loved ones? The witnesses who seen the plane?

Explain. Don't post a video. Use your own words.

 

[xxCivicxx]

If flight 175 didn't hit the pentagon, what did? Why are there plane parts everywhere? Where did flight 175 go? What about the people? The family of those who mourn their loved ones? The witnesses who seen the plane?

Explain. Don't post a video. Use your own words.

Most likely a missile due to the angle and speed, if I had to guess.

There's scrap metal everywhere, not plane parts. No wings. No seats

There are actually a lot of families of the victims that don't believe the official story. A lot.

What witnesses saw the plane?

 

[xxCivicxx]

If flight 175 didn't hit the pentagon, what did? Why are there plane parts everywhere? Where did flight 175 go? What about the people? The family of those who mourn their loved ones? The witnesses who seen the plane?

Explain. Don't post a video. Use your own words.

You still haven't answered why the towers falling didn't do more damage to the surrounding area though.

They literally fell perfectly in a way to limit outside damage and casualties. All 3

 

[xxCivicxx]

If flight 175 didn't hit the pentagon, what did? Why are there plane parts everywhere? Where did flight 175 go? What about the people? The family of those who mourn their loved ones? The witnesses who seen the plane?

Explain. Don't post a video. Use your own words.

But once again why is there no clear footage of the impact? There was amateur footage recorded but the government confiscated it

Also all pentagon cameras just happened to be pointing away from the area of impact at the perfect time?

 

[S2J]

Replied 3 times lol with QUESTIONS lmao

How you say both a bomb hit it AND say 'A lot of families of the victims dont believe the official story'

Wait: If it was a missile, THERE ARE NO FLIGHT VICTIMS or families of victims of that flight

Again, both Vibe and I have asked, who/where are those people listed, publicly, as victims? !?!? Are they still alive? Them and their families quarantined? Actually were on a plane and the govt secretly took it out? You have a couple options, but you MUST believe in 1 or everything else is irrelevant

No other question right now is more important

 

[xxCivicxx]

Replied 3 times lol with QUESTIONS lmao

How you say both a bomb hit it AND say 'A lot of families of the victims dont believe the official story'

Wait: If it was a missile, THERE ARE NO FLIGHT VICTIMS or families of victims of that flight

Again, both Vibe and I have asked, who/where are those people listed, publicly, as victims? !?!? Are they still alive? Them and their families quarantined? Actually were on a plane and the govt secretly took it out? You have a couple options, but you MUST believe in 1 or everything else is irrelevant

No other question right now is more important

Critical thinking really isn't your area. How did you make the logical jump from a missile hitting the pentagon to there being no victims across the entirety of the 9/11 event?

I don't have to believe any goofy options you give me, all I have to do is DISBELIEVE the official story

ALL QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THE EVENT ARE IMPORTANT.

I'm gonna have to stop responding to you if you can't step your mental game up

 

[VIBE]

Flight 77 wreckage has been posted and quote a few times in this thread.

Here's your bodies in their seats.

Spoiler

 

[S2J]

Flight 77 wreckage has been posted and quote a few times in this thread.

Here's your bodies in their seats.

Spoiler

@xxCivicxx

Its put up or shut up time. Im gonna need you to address THIS^^^ instead of addressing me on a personal level, or kindly stfu.

 

[xxCivicxx]

Flight 77 wreckage has been posted and quote a few times in this thread.

Here's your bodies in their seats.

Spoiler

I don't know what those close-up pics of wreckage are supposed to be but nothing about that indicates they were taken at the pentagon