So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

[Me1971]

Some folks forget how big the Twins were (208 feet on each side) 110 floors both had about 10floors of support beams taken out which left the floors beneath the impact zone holding up weight it wasnt meant to hold up of course its gonna come down on itself for most part if the core is caving in because of the weight

and although they fell straight down the pressure they came down shot parts of the building hundreds of feet it just doesnt seem like it cause the plaza at the foot prints of the Towers was huge probably like 3city blocks or something

lol..........................the Towers was built specifically take hits by big jets same for the Empire St bldg matter of fact

^^^^hit by a B-52 bomber

But the twin tower attacks set a precedence because it was the first time a plane that size flew into a building at that speed. A 757 is a much bigger plane than the B-52 and it was also going at over 500 mph. The planes that hit the towers weren't even invented yet when the architects were designing the towers, so they weren't really able to plan for that.

 

[Me1971]

I have showed you the debris...

there is no actual footage clear as you see for the WTC

If your own stupidity and ignorance doesn't let you see the debris I posted, then that's on you..

I asked you questions and showed you the evidence and you ignore it...

You're dodging a lot of shit.... pussy

You've dodged almost everything I posted, which is why I stopped. You're not really trying to debate apparently you think you just being a dick in the thread for long enough then people would just believe you by default.

I say again, you have not posted any info anywhere close to factual enough to to change my opinion on the topic and you won't be able to. It seems like you'd rather change the subject and try and gain some false sense of self-confidence off of incorrectly thinking that I don't know what materials comprise a commercial jet

Once again, show me any plane part on the Pentagon lawn. Explain bin Laden's death. Explain the major shifts in the stock trade with respect to airports in the weeks and days leadingup to 9/11. Disprove the US General vid. Or just try and disprove anything that I've posted tho I know you can't

"show me any plane part on the pentagon lawn"

*been posted more than once*

you guys are stuck in your ways

"oh by golly gee willikers! it's a conspiracy for sure!"

and no matter what I say or post, you guys ignore it..

so now I just don't give a fuck about it all... believe what you want, you look like the idiot..

In a way you can't really blame the skepticism, even if it is a bit stubborn. We have a history of false flag attacks to justify bogus wars, so their skepticism is understandable. I personally don't believe the gov orchestrated the attacks but our gov bring this type of suspicion on themselves due to the way they handle these events and their overall history of playing dirty. I think the truth era are justified in being over zealous.

 

[Me1971]

First of all you didn't answer any of the questions I asked in the first part of this thread so please stop saying you haven't been dodging. As a matter of fact the only thing you haven't dodged is the Pentagon question like it somehow negates everything else everyone else posted. The plane was being recorded by VIDEO CAMERAS yet we only see still frames like it's 1890 but I guess that doesn't strike you as odd either but forget about the Pentagon. Respond to anything else in my posts

You still haven't even mentioned the death of bin Laden or seal team 6 and I posted about them at least twice

Or the stock fluctuations beforehand

Or the fact that at the same time on the same day of the attack there was a military drill going on that simulated a terroristic attack by plane

Or the fact that the military scrambler jets were told to stand down after the first attack even tho 1 jet could have easily prevented the second one

You didn't even respond the article I posted about the strange shit happening at the wtc at night in the 2 weeks leading up to the attack.

Clearly you are trying to devolve this convo with name calling(which is an automatic defeat in a legit debate) so I'm gonna stop posting since you apparently can't control your emotions

You're giving the gov too much credit with the CCTV theory. It's 2014, I've yet to see any CCTV's that sits have a slow camera rates, so I can't imagine that technology was any better in 2001. I don't think they anticipated being hit by a high speed aircraft, the cameras weren't designed to capture that. That whole attack was unprecedented. As someone who was former military, I'll be the first to tell you that our DOD isn't as competent as their image makes them out to be, and we're usually more reactive than proactive.

 

[Me1971]

And how many times has the US been attacked on our own soil

there's a first for everything...

If some random terrorist can pull that off how come nobody else has is what I'm asking other than PH I can't think of anybody boldy attacking us and we know how that turned out

There's been like 50 attacks that were stopped within the past 13 years. But there has been little attacks here and there that didn't get much media coverage, you have to look then up.

 

[Me1971]

I'm gonna just say it.

If u still have ''Faith'' in this Matrix system please kill yourself cause you're nothing but a hopeless sitting duck waiting to die for nothing if u believe that the govt is a legitamate organization. Just wake the fk up or shut the fk up.

I don't think anyone is saying that in this thread, you're thinking in black and white extremes. In this case I just think they knew something was coming and they planned to capitalize on it whenever it happened. I just don't see then being that competent.

 

[Trillfate]

bump?

 

[SELASI_i]

I remember this event. I was 20 years old getting ready for work when I heard about it on tv. After I found out more about it and how quickly the laws started to change to prevent this sort of thing. It just didn't add up right, and it woke me up, been conscious every since.

 

[xxCivicxx]

 

[xxCivicxx]

 

[xxCivicxx]

 

[VIBE]

You're still an idiot, I see.

 

[Trillfate]

the 9/11 conspiracy theory is the only one i subscribe to...

i still believe 50-75% of Loose Change and other videos like it is true

 

[AP21]

NO

 

[xxCivicxx]

the 9/11 conspiracy theory is the only one i subscribe to...

i still believe 50-75% of Loose Change and other videos like it is true

I conspiracy is just an act planned out ahead of time. Regardless of anyone's opinion of what happened, people CONSPIRED to knock the wtc buildings down so the event WAS a conspiracy

The issue is whether you believe the boxcutter bin laden conspiracy, or the truth

It's funny how within the past hundred years or so there's been a concentrated effort to attach a negative stigma to the term "conspiracy".

People tend to tune out once they hear that word, which is basically just choosing to be dumb and ignorant because ALL terroristic events ARE CONSPIRACIES. Some people like to know the actual conspirators and not just what we're told by the same people that tried to paint tamir rice's family as delinquents

 

[xxCivicxx]

You're still an idiot, I see.

Even though I'm sure you're not going to do it because it would challenge your outlook, I strongly urge you to watch those vids I just posted.

 

[xxCivicxx]

And also tell me why you're hitting negative reactions over a list of facts

 

[xxCivicxx]

@VIBE

 

[CapitalB]

9/11 happened.. whatever get over it..

#ALLlivesmatter

 

[Trillfate]

the 9/11 conspiracy theory is the only one i subscribe to...

i still believe 50-75% of Loose Change and other videos like it is true

I conspiracy is just an act planned out ahead of time. Regardless of anyone's opinion of what happened, people CONSPIRED to knock the wtc buildings down so the event WAS a conspiracy

The issue is whether you believe the boxcutter bin laden conspiracy, or the truth

It's funny how within the past hundred years or so there's been a concentrated effort to attach a negative stigma to the term "conspiracy".

People tend to tune out once they hear that word, which is basically just choosing to be dumb and ignorant because ALL terroristic events ARE CONSPIRACIES. Some people like to know the actual conspirators and not just what we're told by the same people that tried to paint tamir rice's family as delinquents

I noticed the conspiracy has become a buzzword with a negative connotation. U use that word and instantly lose credibility for some reason

Conspiracy theorists are viewed almost as bad as ppl who "cry" racism and use the "race card"

 

[JokerzWyld]

the 9/11 conspiracy theory is the only one i subscribe to...

i still believe 50-75% of Loose Change and other videos like it is true

I conspiracy is just an act planned out ahead of time. Regardless of anyone's opinion of what happened, people CONSPIRED to knock the wtc buildings down so the event WAS a conspiracy

The issue is whether you believe the boxcutter bin laden conspiracy, or the truth

It's funny how within the past hundred years or so there's been a concentrated effort to attach a negative stigma to the term "conspiracy".

People tend to tune out once they hear that word, which is basically just choosing to be dumb and ignorant because ALL terroristic events ARE CONSPIRACIES. Some people like to know the actual conspirators and not just what we're told by the same people that tried to paint tamir rice's family as delinquents

I noticed the conspiracy has become a buzzword with a negative connotation. U use that word and instantly lose credibility for some reason

Conspiracy theorists are viewed almost as bad as ppl who "cry" racism and use the "race card"

That's due to thorough media indoctrination. It's important to give attention to alternative sources of information like books with more details.

The media is just like this forum, or vice versa, in the sense that people tend to shoot off so-called "facts" without real evidence. The news will just say things like: "an anonymous source close to the the situation...", or "a person close to the investigation...", or "an insider with access to the person/place, or thing...", etc. To tout something as fact and yet not reveal the source that gives it credibility is irresponsible journalism, and should not be trusted in most cases. There are some instances when the journalist will try to protect the source, but usually that ends up with the source and/or journalist in prison/exile (Snowden/Greenwald).

Furthermore, many of the people associated with mainstream media aren't really journalists anyway. Even their titles reveal this fact. The host is the Anchor. The ones reporting the news are Correspondents. The ones giving their opinion on the news (which is in fact a violation of journalistic tenets) are Analysts, Contributors, "experts." Then the companies that provide the news are owned by corporate interests that support and lobby certain politicians and political parties (which is a conflict of interests). That conflict leads various outlets to spin and and omit certain stories from their programs.

This lack of journalistic integrity in favor of corporate interest prevents people from learning import news that they desperately need to know. Media is more interested in reporting what's popular on twitter/facebook than important events. The biggest example of this that got my attention some years ago was how the media was so eager to report how Lebron was "taking his talents to South Beach," but that same day they neglected to report the criminal verdict in the Oscar Grant case. Perhaps this was done for ratings and profits, or maybe it was a distraction for Black people so we wouldn't start thinking about our existence in this country. This is when I knew the media could no longer be trusted to dispense necessary information to the public.

The Constitution included a 1st Amendment because they knew that democracy could not function properly for the people if the citizenry was not informed about doings of their government. For this reason they knew that the press must operate freely without conflicts of interests. But the press has been corrupted and relegated to a corporate government tool to affect the people emotionally rather than inform and engage people intellectually.