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dont worry Vibe will explain why the pentagon doesnt appear to have been struck by a Boeing 747Cain;7358284 said:Why is the planes shown hitting the towers but still till this day we haven't seen the plane hitting the Pentagon?
Always wondered what was the point of not showing that.
VIBE;7358290 said:evidence for no thermite?
none was found at the site...
DarcSkies;7358140 said:I'd never give this government that much credit. I think it had more to do with incompetence than an actual conspiracy to let this happen.
xxCivicxx;7356841 said:First of all that looks like a piece of aluminum, not a piece of a plane
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2011/09/12/truth-about-911-truthersI am open-minded. And I don't trust our political leaders. So I read everything that people send me. I watched films like "Loose Change" and "In Plane Sight," a professionally edited documentary that relies on insinuation to argue that nefarious government somebodies fired something other than hijacked jets into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
Example: "How can a Boeing 757, which is over 44 feet in height and 124 feet in width, simply disappear without a trace into a hole that is only 16 feet in diameter? Also, why is there no external damage to the Pentagon where the wings and the tail section would have impacted with the outer wall?"
Answer: The plane hit the lawn, not the building. The Pentagon is made of reinforced WPA-era concrete. The plane's wings were thin, light and full of jet fuel. They disintegrated upon impact.
Everything I've read and watched on Truther sites is like that: easily dismissed by anyone with a basic knowledge of physics and architecture. (I spent three years in engineering school.) Therefore, with one exception, I believe the official story.
The exception is United Flight 93, which crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
I think there's a possibility it was shot down by a USAF fighter jet...
What I really don't understand is the movement's motivations. What do Truthers want?
For the sake of argument let's assume that the four 9/11 planes were found at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, confirming that they never hit their targets. Like in the TV show "Lost." Are Truthers naïve enough to think there would be a revolution?
"Our government has lied to us about the events of 9/11," Truther Frank Agamemnon said last year on Russia Today TV. "And if the truth came out about it, maybe the wars would stop."
I don't think so. Americans didn't rise up when Bush stole the 2000 election. They didn't care when WMDs failed to turn up in Iraq. We did nothing about Abu Ghraib or legalized torture or a president who says he has the right to assassinate each and every one of us, even if we're innocent of any crime. Even if 9/11 did prove to be an inside job, I predict the national reaction would be:
"Huh."
Cain;7358560 said:Trillfate;7358338 said:dont worry Vibe will explain why the pentagon doesnt appear to have been struck by a Boeing 747Cain;7358284 said:Why is the planes shown hitting the towers but still till this day we haven't seen the plane hitting the Pentagon?
Always wondered what was the point of not showing that.
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what happened to the wings?
I used to go back and fourth with @vibe he had good counters to arguments..................till I saw realized something.
One plane took down one the tallest and strongest buildings ever made to this day. The second plane did the exact same thing to another bldg that is the tallest and strongest in the world.
Yet the 3rd plane took out only a wall two center block reinforce walls at the Pentagon. Ummmm yeah call bullshit when you see bullshit is my motto.
@Trillfate
xxCivicxx;7358169 said:JokerKing;7357189 said:The amount of people America would have to have stay quiet for 13 years if they did it would make it impossible.
Not true. Do you think a military sergeant knows every single move that every military general with authority over him makes? No. He's told to do a specific job and that's it. That's how all hierarchies work in case you didn't know
There are probably plenty of people that contributed to 9/11 without their knowledge
JokerKing;7358866 said:xxCivicxx;7358169 said:JokerKing;7357189 said:The amount of people America would have to have stay quiet for 13 years if they did it would make it impossible.
Not true. Do you think a military sergeant knows every single move that every military general with authority over him makes? No. He's told to do a specific job and that's it. That's how all hierarchies work in case you didn't know
There are probably plenty of people that contributed to 9/11 without their knowledge
With a conspiracy this huge, yes, everyone knows everyone and their movements involved. You leave absolutely nothing to chance. Something this big, you got the CIA, FBI, and the NSA involved. Not too mention the personnel who confiscated three airplanes, the generals who orchestrated the plan, the airline company who I'm sure got a huge insurance check for three destroyed planes and keeping their mouths shut, insurance payouts to the buildings that got destroyed also to keep quiet and quell investigations, plus so many others. Too many people to keep quiet and too much people to handle. Don't over simply this thing.
brown321;7358880 said:JokerKing;7358866 said:xxCivicxx;7358169 said:JokerKing;7357189 said:The amount of people America would have to have stay quiet for 13 years if they did it would make it impossible.
Not true. Do you think a military sergeant knows every single move that every military general with authority over him makes? No. He's told to do a specific job and that's it. That's how all hierarchies work in case you didn't know
There are probably plenty of people that contributed to 9/11 without their knowledge
With a conspiracy this huge, yes, everyone knows everyone and their movements involved. You leave absolutely nothing to chance. Something this big, you got the CIA, FBI, and the NSA involved. Not too mention the personnel who confiscated three airplanes, the generals who orchestrated the plan, the airline company who I'm sure got a huge insurance check for three destroyed planes and keeping their mouths shut, insurance payouts to the buildings that got destroyed also to keep quiet and quell investigations, plus so many others. Too many people to keep quiet and too much people to handle. Don't over simply this thing.
They don't need to do all that shit for 9/11 to be an inside job tho.
JokerKing;7358883 said:brown321;7358880 said:JokerKing;7358866 said:xxCivicxx;7358169 said:JokerKing;7357189 said:The amount of people America would have to have stay quiet for 13 years if they did it would make it impossible.
Not true. Do you think a military sergeant knows every single move that every military general with authority over him makes? No. He's told to do a specific job and that's it. That's how all hierarchies work in case you didn't know
There are probably plenty of people that contributed to 9/11 without their knowledge
With a conspiracy this huge, yes, everyone knows everyone and their movements involved. You leave absolutely nothing to chance. Something this big, you got the CIA, FBI, and the NSA involved. Not too mention the personnel who confiscated three airplanes, the generals who orchestrated the plan, the airline company who I'm sure got a huge insurance check for three destroyed planes and keeping their mouths shut, insurance payouts to the buildings that got destroyed also to keep quiet and quell investigations, plus so many others. Too many people to keep quiet and too much people to handle. Don't over simply this thing.
They don't need to do all that shit for 9/11 to be an inside job tho.
Explain
Trillfate;7358338 said:dont worry Vibe will explain why the pentagon doesnt appear to have been struck by a Boeing 747Cain;7358284 said:Why is the planes shown hitting the towers but still till this day we haven't seen the plane hitting the Pentagon?
Always wondered what was the point of not showing that.
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what happened to the wings?
brown321;7358892 said:JokerKing;7358883 said:brown321;7358880 said:JokerKing;7358866 said:xxCivicxx;7358169 said:JokerKing;7357189 said:The amount of people America would have to have stay quiet for 13 years if they did it would make it impossible.
Not true. Do you think a military sergeant knows every single move that every military general with authority over him makes? No. He's told to do a specific job and that's it. That's how all hierarchies work in case you didn't know
There are probably plenty of people that contributed to 9/11 without their knowledge
With a conspiracy this huge, yes, everyone knows everyone and their movements involved. You leave absolutely nothing to chance. Something this big, you got the CIA, FBI, and the NSA involved. Not too mention the personnel who confiscated three airplanes, the generals who orchestrated the plan, the airline company who I'm sure got a huge insurance check for three destroyed planes and keeping their mouths shut, insurance payouts to the buildings that got destroyed also to keep quiet and quell investigations, plus so many others. Too many people to keep quiet and too much people to handle. Don't over simply this thing.
They don't need to do all that shit for 9/11 to be an inside job tho.
Explain
Push some paper here. Stop an investigation there. & you got a terrorist attack inside job that doesn't take millions of people to pull off.