So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

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Iheart~Cali;7362751 said:
leftcoastkev;7361654 said:
9/11 was our Segway into putting our foot in the Middle East. It doesn't matter if the planes brought down the buildings or if it the buildings were blown up from the inside when the planes hit. If the US government didn't do it directly, I believe they knew it was going to happen, who did it, and precisely when.

Bush received several briefs in the months before the attack that repeatedly warned of Bin Laden's intent to attack the U.S. While I don't believe Bush or his cabinet knew exactly how this attack would take place, I do believe they intentionally did nothing because they wanted Bin Laden to make an attempt. Not actually succeed, but make an attempt. I think the U.S. thought they were untouchable, so Bin Laden would try and fail, and then Bush and all his friends could cash in on those multi-billion dollar defense contracts they had and go over there and shut Bin Laden down. Bush could have placed us on high alert based off of any one of those memos, but he chose not to. They wanted Osama to try, so they could have an excuse to go over there and attack. This was all about defense contracts and oil drilling, so basically it was all about the money.

No doubt it was all about the money. I never thought about maybe they wanted bin laden to try, but assumed he would fail. It's possible.

Around the time Saddam Hussein took his oil off the US dollar and Afghanistan had the opium fields.

Because of 9/11 the US was able to get the control of the majority of the worlds opium (prescription drugs/medical industry) from Afghanistan and put Iraq back to the US dollar as far as oil....let alone the money made from defense contracts and oil/resource expansions.

Either way, we needed a reason to get into both places. So many things have happened after that, that benefits the US (Lybia, etc) from an economic gain perspective that would not have been accepted if we didn't have the trigger reason to be there (9/11) in the first place.
 
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blackamerica;7362494 said:
VIBE;7362024 said:
like I said.. you want to believe so bad that a plane didn't hit your own ignorance and stupidity prevents u from using logic...

it's cool,... be stupid all your life kid..

This is why I know you full of shit. You came in here on some "all the evidence has been debunked, y'all stupid to believe that conspiracy" shit. But when the burden of proof is on you, you quickly change the subject. I never mentioned what I think hit the Pentagon. I'm just pointing out the government story isn't adding up. Where's the fuckin plane? Why did they confiscate the footage from the store across the street? Why haven't they released any footage? Were their any bodies at the crash site? Just admit you don't know shit and can't answer the question

FYI, this should be public information that the government is forthcoming with. After over 10 years, still no plane?

so you're going to ignore what I posted?
 
DNB1;7356785 said:
I strongly believe that Bush was aware of what would happen at the time he was conveniently sitting in that class room full of kids.



Agenda: To create fear amoungst American people in order to gain backing to go to war in the Middle East under the guise of searching for Binny and WMDs.

Motive: Money, whether it be oil, or military suppliers.

That right there got me almost since it happened........

That reeks of the leaders at the time knowing it was gonna happen, being in the right place at the right time, only to play hero after the buildings fell. Can't believe many ppl can't see that, but if the average Joe was to try to act like he was in the right place at the right time of some drama, that would be an automatic red flag for the laws to investigate.......

 
blackamerica;7363287 said:
JokerKing;7363085 said:
Are you really that close minded? You do know what happens when a airplane, made from aluminum, crashes at high speeds, while the jet fuel tank is full? It gets destroyed. Use common sense. Don't believe these stupid internet and YouTube theorists who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

Close minded? Says the nigga running and ducking questions smh. Are you implying the plane burned and disengrated into dust? A 747 jet? Man you nigga is hopeless. Your so focused on proving conspiracies don't exist, you don't realize how stupid your own theory sounds. A 747 crashes into the Pentagon, with no footage, and disintegrates into dust leaving a wheel. Lol Ok nigga

Yes, I am implying the planes were almost disintegrated because of the impact.

Planes and cars are both made from aluminum. Look at a car in a 35 mph crash, it's almost destroyed. Now imagine a plane made from the same material traveling at 500 mph going head on into concrete and steel.

Doesn't take a genius, learn the basics of aluminum planes before you talk out your ass.
 
Its no way people with the flying experience of those terrorists could fly like that you idiots believe some people took a plane that big an flew it an hit 3/4 targets hahaha.

EXPERTS SAID HIJACKERS 'MUST HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED PILOTS'

Numerous experts commented that the hijackers who flew the aircraft in the 9/11 attacks must have been highly trained and skillful pilots. Tony Ferrante, the head of the Federal Aviation Administration's investigations division, spent several days after 9/11 carefully piecing together the movements of the four aircraft targeted in the attacks. According to author Pamela Freni, Ferrante's "hair stood on end when he realized the precision with which all four airplanes had moved toward their targets." Ferrante said, "It was almost as though it was choreographed," and explained, "It's not as easy as it looks to do what [the hijackers] did at 500 miles an hour."

Darryl Jenkins, the director of the Aviation Institute at George Washington University, told the New York Timesthat the men who carried out the attacks "knew what they were doing down to very small details." He said, "Every one of them was trained in flying big planes." The Timesreported that a "number of aviation experts agreed" with Jenkins and had said that "the hijackers must have been experienced pilots." John Nance, an airline pilot, author, and aviation analyst, said that "the direct hits on the two towers and on the Pentagon suggested to him that the pilots were experienced fliers." Nance pointed to the "smooth banking of the second plane to strike the towers," and said that "precisely controlling a large jet near the ground, necessary for the Pentagon attack, also required advanced skill." Nance concluded, "There's no way an amateur could have, with any degree of reliability, done what was done" in the 9/11 attacks.

A pilot who had been with a major carrier for more than 30 years told CNN that to "pull off the coordinated aerial attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon ... the hijackers must have been extremely knowledgeable and capable aviators." The pilot added, "They know what they were doing.

Robin Lloyd, a Boeing 737 captain with a British airline, told The Telegraph that "the hijackers had to be experienced pilots with more than just a rudimentary knowledge of navigation." Lloyd, who co-runs the Professional Pilots' Rumour Network website, which is "regarded worldwide as one of the prime sources of accurate information for the aviation industry," said the terrorists at the controls of the hijacked aircraft "had to be 100 percent switched on people, 100 percent experienced pilots, probably military trained." He said someone like Osama bin Laden "wouldn't have access to pilots of the caliber needed to pull it off.

John Roden, the president of Aviation Advisory Service, an Oakland, California, consulting firm, said the piloting necessary to navigate the planes to their targets "was very skillful. This is practically fighter pilot technique.And a U.S. Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam War concluded that the hijacked aircraft "either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat or they were being maneuvered by remote control.

'CONSIDERABLE TRAINING' AND 'IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE' NEEDED TO FLY 757 AND 767 AIRCRAFT

Two of the aircraft targeted in the 9/11 attacks were Boeing 757s and the other two were Boeing 767s. Experts have commented how difficult it would have been for amateur pilots, like the alleged hijackers, to fly such aircraft.

Wake up an get a clue on how this life shit work's.
 
PNAC called for "a new Pearl Harbor" in 1998 when they were looking for excuses to fight Saddam again.

Who did Bush blame for 9/11?

The Bush Administration claimed they had no idea something like that could happen.

They lied, The Clinton Administration was told to expect a terrorist attack back in the 90s, of course it came out later that Bush had a lot of intelligence on the subject of airplanes being used as missiles because the threat was initially made under Clinton.

All this tells me that they knew, and was willing to let it happen so they could use it as an excuse to go to war.

Defense contractors in the White House, lying about Saddam having nuclear weapons (and training terrorists), the amount of intelligence they had, the passing of The Patriot Act...I don't see how anyone can ignore this stuff.

To say the government actually orchestrated it might be a stretch but they didn't have to orchestrate it, they can use it for their purposes all the same.

 
They took flying lessons.

If you did any kind of research, you would see they did this.

Months of it.

They weren't landing shit either and they flew shitty, calls came in from flight attendants reporting it was shaky and ppl were sick from this.

They were flying planes into buildings, they didn't need to be experts.

Actually, the conspiracy theorists cling to the fact that they flew so shitty because they thought it would be impossible for them to do such a thing being inexperienced pilots.

4 planes, 4 hijackers who were trained.

The rest were the 'muscle'.

Again, simple research would help.

Then again, I've been reading/looking into/studying about this since 2005.

I've heard and read it all.

 
But let's get to the good part..

For those who don't believe this was possible for the hijackers to pull off, who flew the planes?

Second, for those who do not believe a 757, flight 77, piloted by Hani Hanjour, flew into the Pentagon, what do you think did?

 
VIBE;7365216 said:
But let's get to the good part..

For those who don't believe this was possible for the hijackers to pull off, who flew the planes?

Second, for those who do not believe a 757, flight 77, piloted by Hani Hanjour, flew into the Pentagon, what do you think did?

A missile hpthe pentagon. ......

I have seen a slowed down vid where they supposedly showed a plane but b4 the plane hit the building. ...the building exploded and you could see a plane in background...why they delete frames?
 
zerocool;7365226 said:
VIBE;7365216 said:
But let's get to the good part..

For those who don't believe this was possible for the hijackers to pull off, who flew the planes?

Second, for those who do not believe a 757, flight 77, piloted by Hani Hanjour, flew into the Pentagon, what do you think did?

A missile hpthe pentagon. ......

I have seen a slowed down vid where they supposedly showed a plane but b4 the plane hit the building. ...the building exploded and you could see a plane in background...why they delete frames?

A missile hit the pentagon..

what about the witnesses who say otherwise?

what about the plane debris on the lawn of the Pentagon and inside the building?

what about the bodies still in seats, from the plane, inside the Pentagon?

forget the security footage, as no one feels it serves any credible evidence..
 
leftcoastkev;7363338 said:
Around the time Saddam Hussein took his oil off the US dollar and Afghanistan had the opium fields.

Because of 9/11 the US was able to get the control of the majority of the worlds opium (prescription drugs/medical industry) from Afghanistan and put Iraq back to the US dollar as far as oil....let alone the money made from defense contracts and oil/resource expansions.

Either way, we needed a reason to get into both places. So many things have happened after that, that benefits the US (Lybia, etc) from an economic gain perspective that would not have been accepted if we didn't have the trigger reason to be there (9/11) in the first place.

Na if you look at the people who pushed the most for Iraq. It Israeli was sympathizers. We fought that war for Israelis.

They even tried to pin the anthrax attacks on Iraq. Saying they saw Iraqi officials give Muhammad Atta the shit in a meeting in Prague. Israelis lied about that shit to connect Saddam to 9/11 terrorist.

 
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Show me a plane...

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This is a crash

 

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