So Obama gave Hu Jintao the big fancy state dinner. But in return, Hu had to...

[kingblaze84]

i mean lmfao @ the contrast:

"We're all happy family here!"

*ICE COLD*

lmao @ pres. obama's facial expression. the "hood/southside chicago" obama is comin out in that pic lol!! hu doesn't have a clue that he's about to get clpped up by the pres. lol

HOT DAMN, who is that beautiful chocolate dime piece in your avy? LOL at the hood/southside Chicago Obama coming out in some of those pics.

 

[kingblaze84]

i have no doubt and know america can be evil and racist... but thankfully america and uk have a freedom of speech, you can basically do what you want, it was built to what it is 2day on immigrants... you can be black, white, asian, gay, straight, emo, urban etc and not be persecuted by the government (to an extent) but in reality this day and age people can walk and talk with relative freedom... we can demostraight, have a democracy, have the right to elect who we want in power and have no sensors on internet etc or sanctioned radios or tvs... in china, palestine, korea etc people are much much much worse off... as you saw with the example above in 2009 the women being murdered and left dead by having a fully developed baby ripped out her, in palastein a young girl was murdered not long ago for dancing to music which is forbidden (it may of been hip hop actually) you seen what that crazy kim jong hun does, iraq and the disgusting shit saddam and chemical ali got up to, gassing and killing whole towns and villages!!! every government in the world no matter what country are gonna be cunts, and theres always gonna be injustice and cunt people/gangs in everycountry, no matter where you go, but we really have it good compared to the poor people that have to put up with what they do in some other countries... ive got friends from them countries that lost family members...

You have many good points. I think many here do understand how good we do have it compared to China or other oppressive countries. Just because I criticize many American policies, domestic and foreign, does NOT mean I don't appreciate being an American. I don't hate America or the American people, just some of our policies. I think most here would agree with me.

 

[Shuffington]

yeah.. the shyt that goes down in China is on another level. The U.S has problems of course as their is no perfect country(Edit: maybe Denmark).. but the local Chinese dont have a ton of free liberties . Didnt they just throw a man in jail for life because he rigged his farm truck to appear like a military vehicle so he wont have to pay the toll fees? Isnt the Nobel piece prize winner still locked up? Brothas cant even look at porn or have a blog that speaks out against the government, and that one child policy has murdered a ton a little baby girls, So I dont see why we cant question them on their human rights efforts.... you can only turn a blind eye to it so many times before it shows up on your doorstep.

I personally think the chinese will make the necessary changes(super slow) as long as they can do it on their own terms and not feel like they are crumbling to international (U.S) pressure. Plus Hu still aggy that Frank came through and shut down the building at the Kumite

 

[water ur seeds]

As I mentioned before you seem to understand. I just don't understand those folks who don't understand how much better off they are compared to those who don't have what we have in this country. IMO I think TOO many Americans are the most ungrateful beings on this planet and it don't matter what color they be. I think some folks will never realize how well they have it until they lose what they've got.

real talk starrr.... like not learning your from others until you fuck up... i fall into that category sometimes...

 

[water ur seeds]

You have many good points. I think many here do understand how good we do have it compared to China or other oppressive countries. Just because I criticize many American policies, domestic and foreign, does NOT mean I don't appreciate being an American. I don't hate America or the American people, just some of our policies. I think most here would agree with me.

yeah we all have a right to speak out against things we dont agree with, thats the beautiful thing about democracy, something we have always really known therefore take for granted without knowing it... i wasnt pointing my comment towards you starrr, i havent seen your previous comments, i dont check in here much, i should do, this a dope spot...

 

[toktaylor]

You are missing the big picture friend...China can 'make' or 'break' the USA.This is nothing to do with free speech or fancy dinner..this is about 'kissing up' so China can release it's financial 'deathgrip' on America.

 

[DarcSkies]

You are missing the big picture friend...China can 'make' or 'break' the USA.This is nothing to do with free speech or fancy dinner..this is about 'kissing up' so China can release it's financial 'deathgrip' on America.

Understood. But we kinda went on a tangent cuz of the reporter's question.

As for them making or breaking us. We still have the largest economy in the world and 2nd place is FAR behind.

They arent making or breaking shit. WE are fucking up ourselves because of our bullshit policies.

And as for CHina releasing it's deathgrip. Why the hell would they? Why do something that isnt in your best interest? Cuz somebody through you a State Dinner?

 

[janklow]

America became a super power by violating many a nation's people's human rights. But China cant?

i think the main point is that whatever the US has done, the US has a press to call them on it and the freedom to openly and furiously debate it.

 

[blakfyahking]

ROFL @ Obama's chess moves

I know Hu was sitting there while they asked him those questions like "dis brack mufucka set me up!"

 

[politicalthug202]

In defense of china they are at a different stage of development they gotta

creat 20 million jobs a yr just to maintain order over there.its really a different ball game.

 

[Alkindus]

This was not the wisest decision/action because the US critising others on human rights is fucking bullshit and everybody(especially the Chinese) know that. Thats extremely hypocritical. Guantanomo bay mofos! + US foreign policy in general. please dont give us that well, here in the USA we can say whatever we want etc and thats why we are superior(thats in essence what most of you cats are saying) Fuck that, yoor country fucked up Iraq has been friends with apartheid states(and was an apartheid state itself during our grandpas era's) Don't say that your better domestic wise when you are actually just full of shit.

Hu btw actually is on advocate for free speech in China, you need to understand that China is a huge country and change in policies will not come overnight(+ the given that democracy is not the answer for China but thats another discussion). W-Europe needed WW1 and 2 to get a social democracy.

Hey atleast the US didn't bomb/drone thousands of women and children in foreign countries and has jailed/kidnapped thousands of(INNOCENT) individuels without trail etc any rights at all

oh wait.....

 

[Alkindus]

Oh and Water Ur Seeds, it's probably cause ur a Man United fan (lmao) but no way in hell will the Chinese continou their domestic issues(it is all changing for the better ovber there) + no way in hell would they 'rule' over us and treat us like shit. thats just absurd.

the enemies of us are those cats that are calling the Chinese the enemy, those journalists that only now(obviously influenced by whoever the hell) ask critical questions, the fact that ONLY NOW those pathetic journalists decide to be critical and ask some rightenous shit(which they should always do on regalur basis cause its their fucking job) should tell you enough about the press freedom in the US(better said the lack of)

come on man, dont fall for this shit. Obviously it has become populair sentiment to portray China as an evil force etc..

 

[water ur seeds]

Oh and Water Ur Seeds, it's probably cause ur a Man United fan (lmao) but no way in hell will the Chinese continou their domestic issues(it is all changing for the better ovber there) + no way in hell would they 'rule' over us and treat us like shit. thats just absurd.

the enemies of us are those cats that are calling the Chinese the enemy, those journalists that only now(obviously influenced by whoever the hell) ask critical questions, the fact that ONLY NOW those pathetic journalists decide to be critical and ask some rightenous shit(which they should always do on regalur basis cause its their fucking job) should tell you enough about the press freedom in the US(better said the lack of)

come on man, dont fall for this shit. Obviously it has become populair sentiment to portray China as an evil force etc..

haha

i never called chinese the enemy...

what i said they are continuing to get more power... they make everything and have alot of industry, unlike usa and uk who really have to industry, we make nothing over here now... everything is either made in asia or czech republic or whoever ever...

what i said was if countries like china did someday become the strongest country in the world, i would not feel as chilled and comfitibal like i do now with usa or uk inchage...

that women who had her baby ripped out of her at 9months was only 2009... 2years ago... they are crazy, if they ruled the world life would be hell for us, they rule with an iron fist, we would have no freedom of speech or anything, thats what i was saying... they are not improving their human rights hardly at all, they still sanction tv and radio, they still censor the internet...

my bredren was over there 18months ago, and was queuing for a train, they wernt allowed to que outside of the white lines or they got nicked lol everyone had to stand inbewteen the white lines, imagine that in london or new york lmao

you cant even chew fcking chewing gum in some parts of asia, its illegal unless its for medical reason, i dont know if he still is...

if they ruled the world like america and uk we would be fucked... chinas government are aload of evil cunts...

peep this:

[video=youtube;86t-Kqi68CM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86t-Kqi68CM[/video]

 

[Alkindus]

haha

i never called chinese the enemy...

what i said they are continuing to get more power... they make everything and have alot of industry, unlike usa and uk who really have to industry, we make nothing over here now... everything is either made in asia or czech republic or whoever ever...

what i said was if countries like china did someday become the strongest country in the world, i would not feel as chilled and comfitibal like i do now with usa or uk inchage...

that women who had her baby ripped out of her at 9months was only 2009... 2years ago... they are crazy, if they ruled the world life would be hell for us, they rule with an iron fist, we would have no freedom of speech or anything, thats what i was saying... they are not improving their human rights hardly at all, they still sanction tv and radio, they still censor the internet...

my bredren was over there 18months ago, and was queuing for a train, they wernt allowed to que outside of the white lines or they got nicked lol everyone had to stand inbewteen the white lines, imagine that in london or new york lmao

you cant even chew fcking chewing gum in some parts of asia, its illegal unless its for medical reason, i dont know if he still is...

if they ruled the world like america and uk we would be fucked... chinas government are aload of evil cunts...

peep this:

[video=youtube;86t-Kqi68CM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86t-Kqi68CM[/video]

I can dig it bro, but the thing is that the US/UK/EU haven't really been so great at the whole 'ruling the world' part. For example, the rape of african/arab people/soil. I mean If we both were chillin in Iraq right now we wouldn't be happy with the US occupation. In fact we would probably hate the US with a passion for all the slaughters and mayhem they caused right?

I have posted on this site from Chinese (and Singapore) soil, I can tell you first hand that they are taking a turn for the better but really, it takes time. You cannot expect a country with 1.3 billion people to change within a decade, I for one think it's not even possible to have a democracy in such a ridiculous large and diverse country. Also don't believe everything you hear about the censorhsips/lack of freedom of speech, everybody thats been to Shanghai for example(and can read mandarin) knows they have like 11000 different newspapers over there and it really isn't as closed anymore as 2/3 or even early 2000's, we have been thrown to death with zillions of indepht docs made in China etc.

In the end we are comparing several demons, I choose not to dance with either and just call them for what they are bro

(and yes I still think Man United will get kicked out of the CL by Marseille)

oh and about the JMT link, yeah shadow business is what made many of our fine 'western' companies great, infact we build the democracies etc after ww2 on shadow business. It was populair to go overseas for cheap labour lol, it was even government policy lol.

 

[Alkindus]

How ironic that you say that (bold ed area) If you were in China you couldn't say half the things you say about said country. Yet you live in America and contend its the MOST evil empire on this planet.....wow! shit just don't jive with your malarkey.

I reside in Holland man, I've been to both China and the states, I might be hypocrite and dont know shit but I know enough to see that both China and the states have more than enough domestic and foreign issues to pretend they are kosher.

 

[kingblaze84]

I can dig it bro, but the thing is that the US/UK/EU haven't really been so great at the whole 'ruling the world' part. For example, the rape of african/arab people/soil. I mean If we both were chillin in Iraq right now we wouldn't be happy with the US occupation. In fact we would probably hate the US with a passion for all the slaughters and mayhem they caused right?

I have posted on this site from Chinese (and Singapore) soil, I can tell you first hand that they are taking a turn for the better but really, it takes time. You cannot expect a country with 1.3 billion people to change within a decade, I for one think it's not even possible to have a democracy in such a ridiculous large and diverse country. Also don't believe everything you hear about the censorhsips/lack of freedom of speech, everybody thats been to Shanghai for example(and can read mandarin) knows they have like 11000 different newspapers over there and it really isn't as closed anymore as 2/3 or even early 2000's, we have been thrown to death with zillions of indepht docs made in China etc.

In the end we are comparing several demons, I choose not to dance with either and just call them for what they are bro

(and yes I still think Man United will get kicked out of the CL by Marseille)

oh and about the JMT link, yeah shadow business is what made many of our fine 'western' companies great, infact we build the democracies etc after ww2 on shadow business. It was populair to go overseas for cheap labour lol, it was even government policy lol.

Great post. American foreign policy is among the most immoral in the world, I would still much rather live in the USA BUT I'm not naive to the many evils American govt still perpetuates around the world. American wars around the world are creating MILLIONS of refugees in the Arab world, I wonder why no one in the American media is talking about this??

American media can and should criticize Hu all they want, but they should also criticize Obama for not letting Palestinians have their own homeland, for creating more terrorism by sending out drones, and having endless wars in the Middle East.

 

[kingblaze84]

Ok you're one of those individuals who live in the perfect world.....sorry, I forgot. BTW would you please take some of our pissed-off and angry citizens who hate this country so much.......your country needs to balance out that so perfect world of yours.

It would be even better if American govt didn't piss off its own citizens so much = )

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

I can dig it bro, but the thing is that the US/UK/EU haven't really been so great at the whole 'ruling the world' part. For example, the rape of african/arab people/soil. I mean If we both were chillin in Iraq right now we wouldn't be happy with the US occupation. In fact we would probably hate the US with a passion for all the slaughters and mayhem they caused right?

I have posted on this site from Chinese (and Singapore) soil, I can tell you first hand that they are taking a turn for the better but really, it takes time. You cannot expect a country with 1.3 billion people to change within a decade, I for one think it's not even possible to have a democracy in such a ridiculous large and diverse country. Also don't believe everything you hear about the censorhsips/lack of freedom of speech, everybody thats been to Shanghai for example(and can read mandarin) knows they have like 11000 different newspapers over there and it really isn't as closed anymore as 2/3 or even early 2000's, we have been thrown to death with zillions of indepht docs made in China etc.

In the end we are comparing several demons, I choose not to dance with either and just call them for what they are bro

(and yes I still think Man United will get kicked out of the CL by Marseille)

oh and about the JMT link, yeah shadow business is what made many of our fine 'western' companies great, infact we build the democracies etc after ww2 on shadow business. It was populair to go overseas for cheap labour lol, it was even government policy lol.

you cant get on facebook in china. youtube is blocked. plenty others as well. im suprised you could get on this site in china. did you hack?

 

[TheCATthatdidntDIE]

Great post. American foreign policy is among the most immoral in the world, I would still much rather live in the USA BUT I'm not naive to the many evils American govt still perpetuates around the world. American wars around the world are creating MILLIONS of refugees in the Arab world, I wonder why no one in the American media is talking about this??

American media can and should criticize Hu all they want, but they should also criticize Obama for not letting Palestinians have their own homeland, for creating more terrorism by sending out drones, and having endless wars in the Middle East.

they press wont talk about the rrefugees and what not because it wont sell to the majority viewers. the press is corrupt in a different way here. we dont need the government to regulate us, we just have to remember where the money comes from.

 

[Swiffness!]

I get that.

My whole point is. YOU are giving them shit. Im pretty sure our government could careless.

If China was on friendly terms with us instead of "rocky" terms we wouldnt give two fucks what they were doing. Our government (or the white electorate) could careless about other minorities human rights.

If the Federal government wont stop the NYPD from shooting unarmed black men fuck makes u think they can/will/or even care to stop the Chinese police from killing unarmed people?

"rocky" is misnomer imo. Its really a mix of cooperation and rivalry. But nah, I get what you mean. Egypt and all.

We know we ain't stoppin them. All we can do is wag our finger and hope for some sort of glasnost in their society. Throw a spitball or two. Undermine their vast censorship system. Support Taiwan. That's about it.

does the US not operate a monstrous for-profit prison system with an incarcerated pop similar to China's right now?

did they grill Obama about this.... ever?

LOL I have literally never heard such a question directed at a sitting President, former President, or Presidential candidate.

Jim Webb tried, bless his heart.

please dont give us that well, here in the USA we can say whatever we want etc and thats why we are superior(thats in essence what most of you cats are saying)

yes that IS why we are superior, you can actually become filthy rich in this country doing nothing but spreading laughable bullshit info about the Gov't. Whereas in China, you will be arrested for "inciting subversion of state power" if you sign a petition politely asking the Gov't for more freedom. Really the point of this thread. Freedom of Speech is awesome. Ya'll niggas hate when Janklow messes your threads......