So It Wasn't Ole Girl's Fault That Brock Turner Took That Ass When She Passed Out Drunk By Dumpster

[The Lonious Monk]

lol That dude would have had to be really really fucked up to not understand that randomly fucking an unconscious woman was wrong. This ain't exactly the case to make that kind of argument.

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

By the way, this guy is 100% a villain and to blame. Is he a victim of circumstance to? He couldn't control himself? Can you control with your dick goes?

He's a fuck nigga

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

At least I do.

I do try to teach prevention from being in those situations.

Hold up.....

How is that any different than what I've been saying all along???

I'll tell you how it's different. Me teaching my daughters, who have never had anything happen to them to be aware of their surrounding and to not trust strangers drinks or be alone in settings like that is completely different than stating that a woman who has already been raped should have done all of those things. Its too fucking late. Who are you helping with that? I have already said in this thread numerous times that it's fine to tell young women that before the fact but stating that she should have done this things after the fact helps no one. You also need to keep in mind that most women aren't raped because they are passed out. Some of you in here acting like only stupid decisions lead you to getting raped that is completely untrue.

I believe most ppl agree with this. Saying she is at fault is a terrible choice of words. Someone mentioned earlier that's it's normal for college kids/ppl to be passed out drunk. That's the main problem. It shouldn't be normal and it shouldn't be accepted. That's all....

The white boy is a bitch and ppl (not just women) have to be more responsible with their alcohol.

 

[Kwan Dai]

By the way, this guy is 100% a villain and to blame. Is he a victim of circumstance to? He couldn't control himself? Can you control with your dick goes?

If, we apply your logic then no. From what little I know about the details he too was highly intoxicated.

Haven't you ever been too drunk?

Passing out by yourself and sexually assaulting someone are two different things. But you want to start rationalizing rape so our convo is over.

The common denominator here is both were intoxicated and both of their judgment could have been impaired.

That's beside the point though. This is a unique circumstance. This young lady could have protected herself.

But I get it. Good day to you.

This young lady could have protected herself but the young man shouldn't have controlled himself get the fuck out of here. You are part of the problem hope you know that.

Actually you are. I have a son and a daughter. Both are being taught to carry themselves properly in public. Which, includes not getting drunk to the point of passing out and of course assaulting innocent people in any way. So, rest assured when either my children come across your drunken daughter passed out by a dumpster they will get her some help. When your daughter comes homes safely you guys can laugh about how great of a night getting "fucked up" was because it's her right to do whatever she pleases.

 

[Westie]

By the way, this guy is 100% a villain and to blame. Is he a victim of circumstance to? He couldn't control himself? Can you control with your dick goes?

If, we apply your logic then no. From what little I know about the details he too was highly intoxicated.

Haven't you ever been too drunk?

Passing out by yourself and sexually assaulting someone are two different things. But you want to start rationalizing rape so our convo is over.

The common denominator here is both were intoxicated and both of their judgment could have been impaired.

That's beside the point though. This is a unique circumstance. This young lady could have protected herself.

But I get it. Good day to you.

This young lady could have protected herself but the young man shouldn't have controlled himself get the fuck out of here. You are part of the problem hope you know that.

Actually you are. I have a son and a daughter. Both are being taught to carry themselves properly in public. Which, includes not getting drunk to the point of passing out and of course assaulting innocent people in any way. So, rest assured when either my children come across your drunken daughter passed out by a dumpster they will get her some help. When your daughter comes homes safely you guys can laugh about how great of a night getting "fucked up" was because it's her right to do whatever she pleases.

Yeah that's exactly what I teach my daughters to go out get drunk and pass out in and out you got me. You truly are a piece of shit. I hope you get falsely accused of rape and fucked in the ass.

 

[Westie]

Only the lowest of low lives bring children into arguments. Like seriously after you do that I have zero respect for you.

 

[Westie]

At least I do.

I do try to teach prevention from being in those situations.

Hold up.....

How is that any different than what I've been saying all along???

I'll tell you how it's different. Me teaching my daughters, who have never had anything happen to them to be aware of their surrounding and to not trust strangers drinks or be alone in settings like that is completely different than stating that a woman who has already been raped should have done all of those things. Its too fucking late. Who are you helping with that? I have already said in this thread numerous times that it's fine to tell young women that before the fact but stating that she should have done this things after the fact helps no one. You also need to keep in mind that most women aren't raped because they are passed out. Some of you in here acting like only stupid decisions lead you to getting raped that is completely untrue.

I believe most ppl agree with this. Saying she is at fault is a terrible choice of words. Someone mentioned earlier that's it's normal for college kids/ppl to be passed out drunk. That's the main problem. It shouldn't be normal and it shouldn't be accepted. That's all....

The white boy is a bitch and ppl (not just women) have to be more responsible with their alcohol.

It is normal in College culture to binge drink. It shouldn't be because it is dangerous physically. Not just about what can happen to someone sexually. So I agree people should be more responsible but it's very hard to tell people who just want to party that.

 

[LPast]

@Westie

What is the message you draw from this event and what would you teach your children?

 

[Westie]

@Westie

What is the message you draw from this event and what would you teach your children?

The message is that there are shitty people in the world. Me and my daughters have already had a talk about things like this. And a boy in her class actually said she shouldn't have drank too much or she wouldn't be in the situation to which he was corrected by his male friends stating that that boy had no right regardless of what she did.

My children are very well-versed in how they carry themselves and not to put themselves in dangerous situations but they also know that if anything were to ever happen the fault only lies in the rapist.

 

[MsSouthern]

By the way, this guy is 100% a villain and to blame. Is he a victim of circumstance to? He couldn't control himself? Can you control with your dick goes?

If, we apply your logic then no. From what little I know about the details he too was highly intoxicated.

Haven't you ever been too drunk?

Passing out by yourself and sexually assaulting someone are two different things. But you want to start rationalizing rape so our convo is over.

The common denominator here is both were intoxicated and both of their judgment could have been impaired.

That's beside the point though. This is a unique circumstance. This young lady could have protected herself.

But I get it. Good day to you.

So she could have protected herself but he couldn't control himself ????

@"BiblicalAtheist " .... Here is one example of justifying rape .

 

[Kwan Dai]

By the way, this guy is 100% a villain and to blame. Is he a victim of circumstance to? He couldn't control himself? Can you control with your dick goes?

If, we apply your logic then no. From what little I know about the details he too was highly intoxicated.

Haven't you ever been too drunk?

Passing out by yourself and sexually assaulting someone are two different things. But you want to start rationalizing rape so our convo is over.

The common denominator here is both were intoxicated and both of their judgment could have been impaired.

That's beside the point though. This is a unique circumstance. This young lady could have protected herself.

But I get it. Good day to you.

So she could have protected herself but he couldn't control himself ????

@"BiblicalAtheist " .... Here is one example of justifying rape .

Don't make a fool of yourself by hand selecting one post when I have elaborated many times over in this thread.

And if I wanted to justify rape I would have typed long ago the woman deserved it. I don't mince my words and absolutely nothing I have posited justifies harm being done to another person.

But to answer your question. Of course he could have controlled himself. However, given the fact that both of them were intoxicated one to point of passing out and GIVING away control. The same concession COULD PERHAPS be given to the other intoxicated individual involved.

But this will be lost you as well.

 

[MsSouthern]

So he was soooo drunk he raped a woman

That's your defense ?

 

[Kwan Dai]

So he was soooo drunk he raped a woman

That's your defense ?

R.I.F.

 

[LPast]

Why are y'all putting any of this on the Rapist? As of he isn't a Rapist. IMO y'all are making it seem like he made a bad judgment call because he was drunk too. No... He's a Rapist, there are more of his kind out there waiting for your drunk female family member to come around...

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

Why are y'all putting any of this on the Rapist? As of he isn't a Rapist. IMO y'all are making it seem like he made a bad judgment call because he was drunk too. No... He's a Rapist, there are more of his kind out there waiting for your drunk female family member to come around...

A loving cousin needs to slap the shit out of all of them to prevent that.

 

[Billy_Poncho]

The fuckery in this thread is palpable

 

[deadeye]

At least I do.

I do try to teach prevention from being in those situations.

Hold up.....

How is that any different than what I've been saying all along???

I'll tell you how it's different. Me teaching my daughters, who have never had anything happen to them to be aware of their surrounding and to not trust strangers drinks or be alone in settings like that is completely different than stating that a woman who has already been raped should have done all of those things. Its too fucking late. Who are you helping with that? I have already said in this thread numerous times that it's fine to tell young women that before the fact but stating that she should have done this things after the fact helps no one. You also need to keep in mind that most women aren't raped because they are passed out. Some of you in here acting like only stupid decisions lead you to getting raped that is completely untrue.

@Westie

I agree with the last 2 sentences.

The problem is, too many people seem to ignore this and lump all rapes in the same category.

Meaning, basically, that all rapes don't occur under the same circumstances.

I do, however, think that......even though the damage is already done.......something needs to be said to her after the fact, but it would be best said by a licensed professional who can say it with enough tact so that it doesn't come across as being abrasive or insensitive.

Otherwise, if she sees nothing wrong with her behavior, she might find herself in other bad situations that don't have anything to do with rape..........such as drunk driving, vehicular homicide, serving time in prison as a result, having a criminal record, alcohol poisoning, liver damage, etc.

All I was doing was pointing out that......based on the circumstances of her rape......there's a strong possibility that she wouldn't have been in that situation if she hadn't been intoxicated to the point of passing out.

 

[SneakDZA]

So what i'm taking from this is... women shouldn't get drunk and if they do and they happen to get raped, murdered, robbed or beat up they gotta just take that L since they should have known better.

 

[deadeye]

At least I do.

I do try to teach prevention from being in those situations.

Hold up.....

How is that any different than what I've been saying all along???

I'll tell you how it's different. Me teaching my daughters, who have never had anything happen to them to be aware of their surrounding and to not trust strangers drinks or be alone in settings like that is completely different than stating that a woman who has already been raped should have done all of those things. Its too fucking late. Who are you helping with that? I have already said in this thread numerous times that it's fine to tell young women that before the fact but stating that she should have done this things after the fact helps no one. You also need to keep in mind that most women aren't raped because they are passed out. Some of you in here acting like only stupid decisions lead you to getting raped that is completely untrue.

While it may not help after the fact. How does a grown, sane woman not know how to protect herself? It's unfortunate what happened to this young lady. Her poor choices led to life changing consequences. So, even if rape never crossed this young ladies mind, why didn't getting robbed, killed, or maybe even drunk driving and hurting someone else cross her mind?

I get it people need someone to blame, a villain and want to live their lives doing whatever the fuck they want despite the consequences. That is the American way. You know the cliche "this is a free country". I totally sympathize with this young lady but it's hard to not look at her and ask why the fuck would you risk\gamble with your life like that?

You say her poor choices led to this. People make poor choices every day they don't result and rape. The fact is there was a rapist around. He was a predator. She was in a location in a bad state which led to a predator being able to pray on her period. that doesn't put responsibility on her for what happened. And I'm sure this woman did not mean to pass out by the way. She couldn't handle her liquor, you've never been too drunk? And if you read more into the story and she wasn't even alone. She got fucked up as many people do. How does that make her responsible for someone doing something that despicable to her?

@Westie

No one's saying she's responsible though.......just that it "might not" have happened if she exercised better judgment.

 

[Westie]

I uave 1 question for you @deadeye

Have you ever been raped?