So It Wasn't Ole Girl's Fault That Brock Turner Took That Ass When She Passed Out Drunk By Dumpster

[CottonCitySlim]

My little one is gone for the summer with her grandparents but better believe when she gets back she will be in an mma class until she no longer wants to do it.

i just started this with my lil girl, surprisingly 15 of the 24 of the class are girls fo the children's classes

in 2 years ill let her start learning striking

If you don't min me asking how old is your daughter? They said I had to wait till my booba was 6 before she even went to the class.

7, the gym wont let them start unless they are 5

 

[zzombie]

I'm going to be very blunt with my daughter when she is off age.

The thing I don't get is... When given the chance some guys will rape. If you are passed out drunk, you just might be his target. Let's say he rapes you, he does 15 years in prison...

Do you still go to parties and gets passed out drunk?

No your entire life changes. Your normal sex life changes. You get scared to be around men and people in general a lot of shit happens after you get raped. Trust me this lesson you're trying to teach this woman she has already learned.

ETA some women do exhibit more promiscuous Behavior after being raped feeling that their body has no value because it was taken from them.

Exactly. What to do tell the next potential victim?

We're not saying that there was nothing that could have been done to prevent the crime. And there is nothing wrong we giving out practical advice

The problem is conversation about rape continues to center on how WOMEN can prevent it

You can encourage women to take self defense classes, dress modestly, and to drink responsibly, fine... but conversations about rape that are framed in those terms aren't especially helpful

Then rape is an act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. Most are planned in advance. Most convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. So men can control their sexual impulses

The rapist is the one with the power in the situation, the rapist is the one doing the raping. In Brock's situation, had the victim not been drinking, I believe he would've ended up in a similar situation

What we should be moving towards is a dialogue that encourages clear consent given and received and teaches men about coercive sex and rape, as those things are not widely discussed

We also don't do a good job of teaching men to respect women as equals, or teaching women that they are worthy of being so respected

Of course we can't totally eliminate all rapist and murderers from the earth, but we can curb violent crime

Not every country, community, culture struggle with these ills....why do you think that is?

WE DON'T NEED YOU FUCKING FEMINIST TEACHING MEN ANY FUCKING THING YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE AS IT IS. You cannot teach men not to rape in the first place BECAUSE men who want to rape will rape all you can do it try to reduce the amount of rape and that is largely but not totally the responsibility of the females but women hate responsibility it's one of the reason they get abortions and don't give a fuck about drinking themselves drunk or wear tight clothing in front of pussy thristy men. Women should be respected but you are NOT OUR equals. period.

the only "teaching" you fucking femininst do is brainwashing. GTFOH.

women should be respected but you are not equals. period.

Nigga

First off, most convicted rapists do not suffer from a mental illness, they were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault

They aren't these thirsty, sex deprived savages who lack agency as you are suggesting

And again I understand that we cannot eliminate all rapist from the planet

That said, given how so many ppl, even those in this thread, hold opinion that rape was not rape unless there was a knife to a woman’s throat, we as a society have a lot to learn

So just as encouraging women to take the proper precautions is important, teaching boys and young men how to respect women as equals and about coercive sex and rape is important, and should take precedence in curbing the crime of rape

Otherwise, if boys are not taught to respect women as their equals ....they will view women as objects they have sovereignty over, which is obviously problematic

Especially when most studies sugget that rape is often an expression of power or dominance or as a punishment

when did i say anything about mental illness??? yeah some rapist have normal lives so what??? in this case this cracker was clearly a sex thirsty scumbag and this silly fucking drunk idiot made herself easy prey.

rape is forceful sex that is all WOULD YOU FUCKING FEMINIST PLEASE STOP expanding the definition of RAPE part of the reason there is growing backlash against you fucking twats IS BECAUSE you make everything rape. COERCIVE SEX IS NOT RAPE. We used to teach boys to respect women but it's you fucking feminist that make respecting women harder and harder every generation. No woman on earth is equal to a man that does not mean we cannot respect you OR THAT we will be more prone to rape stop pushing this false social equality it does not nor will it ever exist. EVEN if you attempt to teach boys that girls are there TRUE equals we will quickly come to the the reality that boys and girls are fundamentally different from each other and therefore cannot be equals. GENDER EQUALITY BELONGS in the legal system and no place else.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

 

[zzombie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Bitches lie and unless you have genetic evidence rape is very hard to prove. A MAN who reports his rape will be ridiculed but since most men won't make that accusations unless they are serious they don't face as much scrutiny as a female would, this is because women have a long history of false rape accusations.

A car or a purse are physical objects thus it is easier to determine if they have been stolen or not.

 

[zzombie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

 

[zzombie]

@jono fuck you i am not trolling i am serious with everything i have said in fact i never troll anywhere on this forum

 

[zzombie]

why don't you comment on what i say instead of just giving reactions. stop being a bitch

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

 

[zzombie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

 

[desertrain10]

I'm going to be very blunt with my daughter when she is off age.

The thing I don't get is... When given the chance some guys will rape. If you are passed out drunk, you just might be his target. Let's say he rapes you, he does 15 years in prison...

Do you still go to parties and gets passed out drunk?

No your entire life changes. Your normal sex life changes. You get scared to be around men and people in general a lot of shit happens after you get raped. Trust me this lesson you're trying to teach this woman she has already learned.

ETA some women do exhibit more promiscuous Behavior after being raped feeling that their body has no value because it was taken from them.

Exactly. What to do tell the next potential victim?

We're not saying that there was nothing that could have been done to prevent the crime. And there is nothing wrong we giving out practical advice

The problem is conversation about rape continues to center on how WOMEN can prevent it

You can encourage women to take self defense classes, dress modestly, and to drink responsibly, fine... but conversations about rape that are framed in those terms aren't especially helpful

Then rape is an act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. Most are planned in advance. Most convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. So men can control their sexual impulses

The rapist is the one with the power in the situation, the rapist is the one doing the raping. In Brock's situation, had the victim not been drinking, I believe he would've ended up in a similar situation

What we should be moving towards is a dialogue that encourages clear consent given and received and teaches men about coercive sex and rape, as those things are not widely discussed

We also don't do a good job of teaching men to respect women as equals, or teaching women that they are worthy of being so respected

Of course we can't totally eliminate all rapist and murderers from the earth, but we can curb violent crime

Not every country, community, culture struggle with these ills....why do you think that is?

WE DON'T NEED YOU FUCKING FEMINIST TEACHING MEN ANY FUCKING THING YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE AS IT IS. You cannot teach men not to rape in the first place BECAUSE men who want to rape will rape all you can do it try to reduce the amount of rape and that is largely but not totally the responsibility of the females but women hate responsibility it's one of the reason they get abortions and don't give a fuck about drinking themselves drunk or wear tight clothing in front of pussy thristy men. Women should be respected but you are NOT OUR equals. period.

the only "teaching" you fucking femininst do is brainwashing. GTFOH.

women should be respected but you are not equals. period.

Nigga

First off, most convicted rapists do not suffer from a mental illness, they were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault

They aren't these thirsty, sex deprived savages who lack agency as you are suggesting

And again I understand that we cannot eliminate all rapist from the planet

That said, given how so many ppl, even those in this thread, hold opinion that rape was not rape unless there was a knife to a woman’s throat, we as a society have a lot to learn

So just as encouraging women to take the proper precautions is important, teaching boys and young men how to respect women as equals and about coercive sex and rape is important, and should take precedence in curbing the crime of rape

Otherwise, if boys are not taught to respect women as their equals ....they will view women as objects they have sovereignty over, which is obviously problematic

Especially when most studies sugget that rape is often an expression of power or dominance or as a punishment

when did i say anything about mental illness??? yeah some rapist have normal lives so what??? in this case this cracker was clearly a sex thirsty scumbag and this silly fucking drunk idiot made herself easy prey.

rape is forceful sex that is all WOULD YOU FUCKING FEMINIST PLEASE STOP expanding the definition of RAPE part of the reason there is growing backlash against you fucking twats IS BECAUSE you make everything rape. COERCIVE SEX IS NOT RAPE. We used to teach boys to respect women but it's you fucking feminist that make respecting women harder and harder every generation. No woman on earth is equal to a man that does not mean we cannot respect you OR THAT we will be more prone to rape stop pushing this false social equality it does not nor will it ever exist. EVEN if you attempt to teach boys that girls are there TRUE equals we will quickly come to the the reality that boys and girls are fundamentally different from each other and therefore cannot be equals. GENDER EQUALITY BELONGS in the legal system and no place else.

During my grandparents day in a lot of places under no circumstance could a husband rape his wife. Same as "her bare shoulders" tempted me was a acceptable defense, legal and otherwise...

So before feminism dug it's nails into America , when was this time boys were actively taught and encouraged to respect a woman's agency

Rape is when a person is a person is sexually penetrated without consent. The definition hasn't changed per se, just how we now view consent to protect those who are not in any condition to consent. And I believe most will say it's for the better

Sexual coercion is when tactics like pressure, trickery, or emotional force. Never meant to imply that sexual coercion and rape are one in the same, but sexual coercion can fall under the realm of rape. It's manipulative at best

Because men and women are not physically equal, doesn't mean we should not consider each other equals in all other aspects. Nothing wrong with that and frankly it's true. Same with children, they are different, but deserve the same protections and considerations as adults. Teaching anything different will reflect in our laws and policy, considering we the people make/enforce law and policy

 

[zzombie]

If every man in america became a weak sniveling coward (like jono) today by the end of the week america would be annexed by mexico and Canada because women are too weak to protect themselves and the nation

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

 

[zzombie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

when it comes down to it in the situations we are talking about physical strength and ability to do and withstand violence is all that matters. If men decided not to protect women there is no way women could protect themselves from other men. in places like iraq and the congo WE SEE examples of what happens to a society when the men can no longer protect the women. THE WOMEN get brutalized beyond belief

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

when it comes down to it in the situations we are talking about physical strength and ability to do and withstand violence is all that matters. If men decided not to protect women there is no way women could protect themselves from other men. in places like iraq and the congo WE SEE examples of what happens to a society when the men can no longer protect the women. THE WOMEN get brutalized beyond belief

We were talking about disdain and hatred for females, and what do you do? Come in here proving the point.

 

[zzombie]

I'm going to be very blunt with my daughter when she is off age.

The thing I don't get is... When given the chance some guys will rape. If you are passed out drunk, you just might be his target. Let's say he rapes you, he does 15 years in prison...

Do you still go to parties and gets passed out drunk?

No your entire life changes. Your normal sex life changes. You get scared to be around men and people in general a lot of shit happens after you get raped. Trust me this lesson you're trying to teach this woman she has already learned.

ETA some women do exhibit more promiscuous Behavior after being raped feeling that their body has no value because it was taken from them.

Exactly. What to do tell the next potential victim?

We're not saying that there was nothing that could have been done to prevent the crime. And there is nothing wrong we giving out practical advice

The problem is conversation about rape continues to center on how WOMEN can prevent it

You can encourage women to take self defense classes, dress modestly, and to drink responsibly, fine... but conversations about rape that are framed in those terms aren't especially helpful

Then rape is an act of violence, not a spontaneous act of passion. Most are planned in advance. Most convicted rapists were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault. So men can control their sexual impulses

The rapist is the one with the power in the situation, the rapist is the one doing the raping. In Brock's situation, had the victim not been drinking, I believe he would've ended up in a similar situation

What we should be moving towards is a dialogue that encourages clear consent given and received and teaches men about coercive sex and rape, as those things are not widely discussed

We also don't do a good job of teaching men to respect women as equals, or teaching women that they are worthy of being so respected

Of course we can't totally eliminate all rapist and murderers from the earth, but we can curb violent crime

Not every country, community, culture struggle with these ills....why do you think that is?

WE DON'T NEED YOU FUCKING FEMINIST TEACHING MEN ANY FUCKING THING YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE AS IT IS. You cannot teach men not to rape in the first place BECAUSE men who want to rape will rape all you can do it try to reduce the amount of rape and that is largely but not totally the responsibility of the females but women hate responsibility it's one of the reason they get abortions and don't give a fuck about drinking themselves drunk or wear tight clothing in front of pussy thristy men. Women should be respected but you are NOT OUR equals. period.

the only "teaching" you fucking femininst do is brainwashing. GTFOH.

women should be respected but you are not equals. period.

Nigga

First off, most convicted rapists do not suffer from a mental illness, they were married or had regular sexual partners at the time of the assault

They aren't these thirsty, sex deprived savages who lack agency as you are suggesting

And again I understand that we cannot eliminate all rapist from the planet

That said, given how so many ppl, even those in this thread, hold opinion that rape was not rape unless there was a knife to a woman’s throat, we as a society have a lot to learn

So just as encouraging women to take the proper precautions is important, teaching boys and young men how to respect women as equals and about coercive sex and rape is important, and should take precedence in curbing the crime of rape

Otherwise, if boys are not taught to respect women as their equals ....they will view women as objects they have sovereignty over, which is obviously problematic

Especially when most studies sugget that rape is often an expression of power or dominance or as a punishment

when did i say anything about mental illness??? yeah some rapist have normal lives so what??? in this case this cracker was clearly a sex thirsty scumbag and this silly fucking drunk idiot made herself easy prey.

rape is forceful sex that is all WOULD YOU FUCKING FEMINIST PLEASE STOP expanding the definition of RAPE part of the reason there is growing backlash against you fucking twats IS BECAUSE you make everything rape. COERCIVE SEX IS NOT RAPE. We used to teach boys to respect women but it's you fucking feminist that make respecting women harder and harder every generation. No woman on earth is equal to a man that does not mean we cannot respect you OR THAT we will be more prone to rape stop pushing this false social equality it does not nor will it ever exist. EVEN if you attempt to teach boys that girls are there TRUE equals we will quickly come to the the reality that boys and girls are fundamentally different from each other and therefore cannot be equals. GENDER EQUALITY BELONGS in the legal system and no place else.

During my grandparents day in a lot of places under no circumstance could a husband rape his wife. Same as "her bare shoulders" tempted me was a acceptable defense, legal and otherwise...

So before feminism dug it's nails into America , when was this time boys were actively taught and encouraged to respect a woman's agency

Rape is when a person is a person is sexually penetrated without consent. The definition hasn't changed per se, just how we now view consent to protect those who are not in any condition to consent. And I believe most will say it's for the better



Sexual coercion is when tactics like pressure, trickery, or emotional force. Never meant to imply that sexual coercion and rape are one in the same, but sexual coercion can fall under the realm of rape. It's manipulative at best

Because men and women are not physically equal, doesn't mean we should not consider each other equals in all other aspects. Nothing wrong with that and frankly it's true. Same with children, they are different, but deserve the same protections and considerations as adults. Teaching anything different will reflect in our laws and policy, considering we the people make/enforce law and policy

Back in the days a boy was considered a pussy if he hit a girl. Today these little boys will knock a bitch head off @ the bold stop the fucking lies and semantics you fucking sick cunts have expanded the definition for the worse now it is much easier for a women to falsely accuse a man of rape because even talking a bitch out of her pussy is considered rape now.

YES COERCION IS MANIPULATIVE but it's not rape if i lie to you and get you to suck my dick i did not rape you i manipulated you, because you are a fucking idiot that might make me a manipulative bastard but that does not make me a rapist because you willingly swallowed. Men and women are fundamentally different in our attitudes and biology and feelings of responsibility.

all children are not equal. My brother could not take spanking so my parents never spanked him because all spanking would do for him is break his spirit. Me on the other hand, i would only respond to physical discipline. MEN AND WOMEN are not the same and outside of a court room it would be foolish to expect us the act the same or treat each other the same because it is a denial of biological reality.

and this denial of gender difference is having a horrible effect on little boys

 

[zzombie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

when it comes down to it in the situations we are talking about physical strength and ability to do and withstand violence is all that matters. If men decided not to protect women there is no way women could protect themselves from other men. in places like iraq and the congo WE SEE examples of what happens to a society when the men can no longer protect the women. THE WOMEN get brutalized beyond belief

We were talking about disdain and hatred for females, and what do you do? Come in here proving the point.

I don't hate females i hate feminism and what it has done to the culture and what i said was the stone cold truth women cannot survive without men but men don't really want to survive without you so What do you want me to say that men and women are equal when we clearly are not.

men and women are just different

 

[Westie]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

when it comes down to it in the situations we are talking about physical strength and ability to do and withstand violence is all that matters. If men decided not to protect women there is no way women could protect themselves from other men. in places like iraq and the congo WE SEE examples of what happens to a society when the men can no longer protect the women. THE WOMEN get brutalized beyond belief

We were talking about disdain and hatred for females, and what do you do? Come in here proving the point.

Theres no point in interacting in people who have obvious disdain for women and treat them as subhuman. Topics like this will never be a good place for honest dialogue with them

 

[desertrain10]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

Yea

Then I think we have a natural skepticism of those who we believe are other, not like us

Same as men typically regard women’s feelings and the way Whites typically regard the feelings of non-Whites

We are also conditioned to believe women are scornful, manipulative, emotional, irrational, etc. While men are not. Though there is little to evidence to suggest this to be true, it's stuck. False rape allegations, for example, they are statistical outliers. But despite the lack of evidence, we have ppl that would lead you to believe otherwise

So as women then naturally our recollections of certain things that have happened to us aren’t really to be trusted either.

Could chalk it up as just being a stereotype or generalization, that while it is not based in fact, it is ultimately harmless. But on second thought, what about when stereotypes, supposedly innocuous differences between the sexes and our skeptisicism of those who are "other" begins to takes foot in our court houses and factor into government policy

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Theres no point in interacting in people who have obvious disdain for women and treat them as subhuman. Topics like this will never be a good place for honest dialogue with them

I thought it was going good until he showed up like fuck. Now it's all fucking outta wack.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Instead, we teach our kids how to avoid them the best they can.... let them get someone else, but watch your own ass.

As a society, is that the best we can do though?

That is my frustration. It seems absurd that the way to deal with this issue is merely to keep teaching girls how to protect themselves. And I said earlier, I don't believe anyone over 15 in western society doesn't know that rape is illegal. So if they know, but apparently don't care, how do we fix this?

The solution is going to be multifaceted

But i do believe it involve teaching our children what we mean by consent and how to truly respect one another

My niece, who is 16. said a girl at her school claimed she was raped by a classmate at a house party. She didn't believe her though because the girl is a flirt. Plus she didn't suffer from any visible bruising. And there was no one at the party that heard a struggle or any screams

It's OK to be suspicious and to question everything. But we really don't question the woman who says her purse was stolen. We aren't suspicious of the man who reports his car stolen. A man can report to have being raped by another man, but he wouldn't face the same scrutiny as a woman who says that she was raped by a man. When it comes to female/male rape, what is really fueling our suspicions?

Disdain for the female gender largely I think. Men despise the feminine aspect of themselves, being feminine hasn't served women very well thus far and we attack females or disregard them in a variety of ways.

say what??? you cannot be serious ... without being feminine men would have no impulse to protect women and if men don't protect you from other men you women cannot survive on your own for ever long

Are you sure it's not because of a pervasive opinion that women are weak?

WOMEN are weak compared to men and that's not a matter of opinion it's factual truth

We're not talking psychical weakness.

when it comes down to it in the situations we are talking about physical strength and ability to do and withstand violence is all that matters. If men decided not to protect women there is no way women could protect themselves from other men. in places like iraq and the congo WE SEE examples of what happens to a society when the men can no longer protect the women. THE WOMEN get brutalized beyond belief

We were talking about disdain and hatred for females, and what do you do? Come in here proving the point.

I don't hate females i hate feminism and what it has done to the culture and what i said was the stone cold truth women cannot survive without men but men don't really want to survive without you so What do you want me to say that men and women are equal when we clearly are not.

men and women are just different

See you're still suck on the OTHER equal, when that's not the equal being discussed. You flew off into a tangent and threw the flow of the convo off to answer to your irrational rants.