So Iceman is now gay

[jaxn]

Its been implied before. Bobby as an adult, was still out there smashing chicks, so I'm not sure what Bendis is hoping to accomplish with this. It could just only apply to the younger Bobby

 

[lord nemesis]

lmao

 

[Broddie]

Its been implied before. Bobby as an adult, was still out there smashing chicks, so I'm not sure what Bendis is hoping to accomplish with this. It could just only apply to the younger Bobby

Never been implied. Just hopeful conjecture brought up by desperate fanboys who want to make an already easily identifiable with character even "more relatable" to them (I'm looking at you CBR x forums). The man has been in the middle of a heterosexual love triangle with Havok and Polaris for 25 years for fuck's sake.

I'd even accept bi even though it would still feel like something done for the sake of doing it. But you don't go from being gay as a kid to being straight as an adult lmao it doesn't work that way. If teen Bobby is gay than adult Bobby is gay. Bendis wants to have his cake and eat it too but forgets that this is NOT an alternate version of the original 5. It's the actual original 5 he's playing with here. This is almost as weird as his conceit that Hank was always in love with Jean.

 

[Broddie]

They're trying to hard to force gay characters in comics. Why do this long standing character is stupid.

LOL this reminded me of a Maximus Rex post.

Speaking of... that brother is about to plotz when he finds this out.

 

[jaxn]

Its been implied before. Bobby as an adult, was still out there smashing chicks, so I'm not sure what Bendis is hoping to accomplish with this. It could just only apply to the younger Bobby

Never been implied. Just hopeful conjecture brought up by desperate fanboys who want to make an already easily identifiable with character even "more relatable" to them (I'm looking at you CBR x forums). The man has been in the middle of a heterosexual love triangle with Havok and Polaris for 25 years for fuck's sake.

I'd even accept bi even though it would still feel like something done for the sake of doing it. But you don't go from being gay as a kid to being straight as an adult lmao it doesn't work that way. If teen Bobby is gay than adult Bobby is gay. Bendis wants to have his cake and eat it too but forgets that this is NOT an alternate version of the original 5. It's the actual original 5 he's playing with here. This is almost as weird as his conceit that Hank was always in love with Jean.

It actually has been implied in the books before. It's not just something pulled from CBR posters and yes, this is the original O5, but that doesn't mean that both Bobbys are going to end up the same considering O5 Bobby and crew have leap frogged alot of their future storylines to be brought into the present, meaning their adventures and character development will be quite different going forward.

 

[Broddie]

Must've been implied during periods that I didn't read X-Men which to be honest was a few years (after Morrison & Whedon's runs and shortly into Brubaker and Carey's work so around 2004 - 2005 all the way to All-New X-Men) because I've never seen anything like that before. He was always just the jokester and more lighthearted member that didn't mean he wanted to blow dudes though lol.

Again though Homosexuality is not something that could be turned off. Irregardless of the X-Men's chaotic timelines. What Bendis is doing with something like this without even realizing it is insulting those that he's trying to please with such a provocative twist.

Remember how adult Cyke damn near was written out of existence when Young Cyke was compromised?

Well if that is feasible so is the sexual preference of anybody remaining the same from when they're kids to adults.

 

[jaxn]

Must've been implied during periods that I didn't read X-Men which to be honest was a few years (after Morrison & Whedon's runs and shortly into Brubaker and Carey's work so around 2004 - 2005 all the way to All-New X-Men) because I've never seen anything like that before. He was always just the jokester and more lighthearted member that didn't mean he wanted to blow dudes though lol.

Again though Homosexuality is not something that could be turned off. Irregardless of the X-Men's chaotic timelines. What Bendis is doing with something like this without even realizing it is insulting those that he's trying to please with such a provocative twist.

Remember how adult Cyke damn near was written out of existence when Young Cyke was compromised?

Well if that is feasible so is the sexual preference of anybody remaining the same from when they're kids to adults.

yeah, the Xmen books got really weird there for a minute. It was like they just threw a bunch of shit against the wall to see what would stick. I agree with what you're saying and this is just more of Bendis being Bendis. Shock and awe for no reason. There's really no reason whatsoever to alter Iceman's history with this nonsense. Its like the Xmen/mutants are becoming the gay group of the MU. There are like what, 5-10 gay folks who are mutants

 

[Broddie]

The one upside I guess is that Secret Wars will end up retconning all this anyway.

 

[jaxn]

yep. the unofficial, official reboot of the MU coming up soon. Broddie, I'm curious, what were some of your favorite comics coming up? I know you like the Flash and Xmen, but what else was on your pull list?

 

[Broddie]

These were the comic series I grew up reading

DC/Vertigo/Milestone

Batman

Superman

Action Comics

Detective Comics

Wonder Woman

Animal Man

Doom Patrol

The Question

Nightwing

New Teen Titans

Green Arrow

Justice League International

Superboy

The Flash

Aquaman

The Power of Shazam

Hitman

Hellblazer

Preacher

Green Lantern

Books of Magic

Hardware

Icon

Xombi

Static

Blood Syndicate

Steel

Justice League of America

Starman

Sandman

Swamp Thing

Marvel

The Punisher

Daredevil

Ghost Rider

Morbius The Living Vampire

The Incredible Hulk

Doctor Strange

Deathlok

The Avengers

Power Pack

Namor The Submariner

Fantastic Four

The Amazing Spider-Man

The Spectacular Spider-Man

X-Men

X-Factor

Uncanny X-Men

New Mutants

Thor (Dan Jurgens)

Captain America (Mark Gruenwald)

Image

Savage Dragon

Spawn

Wetworks

WildC.A.T.S.

Gen 13

Stormwatch

The Authority

The Darkness

Youngblood

Supreme

Dark Horse

Hellboy

Sin City

Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot

Usagi Yojimbo

I also used to read Jeff Smith's Bone and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles both the Mirage and later Image version and the Archie version.

I'm sure I probably missed some (for example I used to also read a lot of minis that older heads used to hand down to me like Camelot 3000 and stuff) but those were the mainstays.

 

[jaxn]

nice. i see you were into a variety of books. I was into the majority of those except for some of the dark horse and image comics. Just looking at the lists bring back memories when comics were written much better than they are now. I read the books heavily for 30+ years but slowed up a bit over the last few. The stories just haven't been that good in my opinion, especially in Marvel. Although I do keep up with most of what's going on in marvel, i'll glance at whats going on with the nu52. It was just a rough start for the reboot and iirc they're about to do another reboot which is odd. Did you ever read any of the New Universe titles? Those were pretty good as well

 

[Broddie]

I still find enough good books to keep me heavy into the habit today. Though since Civil War I have honestly not read more than a handful of Marvel titles at a time (Ie: Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D. and F4 or Mark Waid's Daredevil and most of Slott's Spidey). Which even after all these years still feels kinda weird to me since I was never used to being so out of touch with the majority of the Marvel universe. With that said I had thought the consensus was that things had been ok since the Marvel NOW initiative. So Marvel rebooting was a bit of a head scratcher for me.

DC is not rebooting again. At most Convergence is to Flashpoint what Zero Hour was to Crisis on Infinite Earths. In other words it's just streamlining and correcting elements of the New 52 canon. Not outright replacing it. It's also DC going back to their roots of "storytelling trumping continuity" instead of sticking to the homogenized approach they tried in the beginning with the New 52. Bringing back the variety and diversity that made DC well...DC.

What Convergence will do is provide the means for people to not just write stuff within the New 52 continuity anymore. It's basically re-establishing hypertime and how "all the stories are equally important". So going forward people could write stories outside of the continuity established with New 52 too. So if somebody has a pitch for say a Ginger Wally West Flash book or Renee Montoya as The Question after Convergence they could realistically make that a reality.

RE: New Universe

Yeah I used to read Star Brand.

 

[jaxn]

Daredevil and Spidey have been consistent for quite some time, even before marvel now. Civil War and Annihilation were the last story arcs that were truly great in my opinion. Marvel Now was the beginning of the reboot (even though Marvel denies and continues to deny to this day that it's rebooting). The stories coming out during that era were bizarre, starting with that age of ultron story that made no sense and went nowhere. I guess rebooting is a bit strong word for what's going on in DC, but the changes they're making are rather early for a recently rebooted universe. They've basically just given the entire DCU the New Gods treatment in that their canon isn't really affected by Crisis nor the nu52. That's basically what Marvel is doing with their soft "reboot". All of the older stories are still canon, even though some of the characters will go through some changes after Battleworld.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

ether son gonna be burning slow

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

There is more @ play here then just pleasing LGBT Community it is also a effort to devalue the franchise in hopes of getting all rights to it back from their current holders(Fox). They having converting Mutant Characters Gay left and right and doing dramatic Retcon damaging the Mutant Titles Continuity and driving off long time fans. It is a Double Entendre for Disney look at how they got Spidey Back from Sony the X Franchise has proven to be an invaluable pool of material for cinema Disney is pushing this for a reason...

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

 

[Lou Cypher]

Lame, iceman was cool. Now he sux cox n dix.

 

[Lou Cypher]

Hate them gaying characters. just make a new damn character or something. Like when they turned GL gay in Earth 2. atleast it was the lame green lantern and not someone like Stewart or Jordan or Rayner.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I used to like Iceman too

 

[CottonCitySlim]

its not 616 bobby its only past/future...all new x-men bobby.

they werent gonna let bendis touch 616 bobby