So I just got done listening to Professor Griff on the Tariq Elite podcast...

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aviator;1862200 said:
I bet if dude was in the league makin mills he wouldnt be sayin that,alot of cats dont make it cause they arent good enogh or just dont have the mind to deal with success

maybe
but homie dont seem bitter at all

he he went undrafted,got an offer from the dolphins,got injured in training camp,played arena league,then came back home cause its too little money to risk gettin injured

dude is content with his situation

so i aint think he was jus sayin some shit cuz he on the bitter boobie miles tip
 
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truth spitter;1861636 said:
and he pretty much called Jay-Z a snitch...years ago a few big name players in the hip hop industry such as J Prince, Suge Knight, Irv Gotti, Dame, etc were TALKING about putting together a black owned distribution company...but Professor Griff said Jay-Z went back to our Great Jewish Brothers and told them about it...now look where Jay @ and look where the rest are....hmmmmmm

Yea I definitely caught that..but thats now the second person to say that happened.

I forgot but I remember on here someone mentioned about Suge Dame and Irv coming together and forming a supergroup

however it was denied! But hearing this further confirmed it!
 
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Chillin&Postin;1862289 said:
maybe

but homie dont seem bitter at all

he he went undrafted,got an offer from the dolphins,got injured in training camp,played arena league,then came back home cause its too little money to risk gettin injured

dude is content with his situation

so i aint think he was jus sayin some shit cuz he on the bitter boobie miles tip

so T.O. is in this group...lol dude just talkin im not sayin i know hi, or nothin but he seem like he just tryna justify other cats success,im mean its niggas in the league that cant read bruh.....they dont care as long as u can help them make money or win or both...like they want pacman jones in there "world" lol
 
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truth spitter;1862244 said:
lol man if u gotta go thru certain shit just to JOIN a COLLEGE fraternity u really dont thk u gotta do something to enter the top 1% of America? Really....lmao....I know hardwork.....people just trying to make a living are HARD WORKERS....aint saying they sold their soul to the Devil...unless u mean the Devil are these dudes running the labels and writing the checks...
Why do people take the term "selling your soul to the devil" so literal when it basically means to you'll do anything, I repeat ANYTHING to get toward a goal, which is this case meaning for a higher financial goal...money management is a main factor for success, but if you think these people just WORK HARD to get there, then you are fuckin' fooling yourself.

Good point @ the bolded.

In college to join ANY fraternity or a sorority, whether it's a BLACK or WHITE group you have to go through their respective rituals regardless of you having a 4.0 GPA, regardless of you helping in your community, regardless of how popular an athlete or person you were at your high school(even though these frats and sorors look at those credentials), you still have to go through a ritual and all it's foundations and rules are SECRETIVE. That's for ALL of them...and some of those rituals are damn near degrading..and for what? For a better advantage in the corporate world..the same goes in the entertainment industry as well.
 
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truth spitter;1862244 said:
lol man if u gotta go thru certain shit just to JOIN a COLLEGE fraternity u really dont thk u gotta do something to enter the top 1% of America? Really....lmao....I know hardwork.....people just trying to make a living are HARD WORKERS....aint saying they sold their soul to the Devil...unless u mean the Devil are these dudes running the labels and writing the checks...

I am in a frat dude, you wanna know what i did to get in. I did community service, show up the events on campus, pay fraternity dues (money) which is used for our stuff (clothes, food,etc) and then we had learn history about the fraternity. Overall a fraternity is just a organize way of networking with people who share the same interests as you. No devil shit or nothing about that, it's just like anything else, it's pretty much networking. As for secretiveness mombo jumbo, most frat shit can be found on the internet or just by asking any brother. It's sorority bitches who know frat rituals, it ain't that damn deep.
 
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aviator;1862281 said:
Its called doing business,these white folks with millions or billions dont care how real u are or rightoues or asiatic or gangsta u are its simple if they can make money of you they will and if you work ur hand right and are a good businessman you can break bread,you gotta compromise give and take is apart of business.

Key word: Compromise..in the same bracket as "selling your soul".

Half of these "good businessmen" aren't really that smart. They have great white Jewish brothers as associates to help them make these big business decisions. That goes for Puff, Jay-Z, Oprah, etc... Russell Simmons even said it, he knows because he started Def Jam with Rick Ruben, who is Jewish.
 
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Why do people hate on Frats when they arent in one?

Anywho. I am inclined to believe that JAY-Z pry did sell them out. However I dont thinki twas from any secret society. Just a way to clear the way to be the man. Eliminate the comp on the business front.
 
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usmarin3;1862409 said:
I am in a frat dude, you wanna know what i did to get in. I did community service, show up the events on campus, pay fraternity dues (money) which is used for our stuff (clothes, food,etc) and then we had learn history about the fraternity. Overall a fraternity is just a organize way of networking with people who share the same interests as you. No devil shit or nothing about that, it's just like anything else, it's pretty much networking. As for secretiveness mombo jumbo, most frat shit can be found on the internet or just by asking any brother. It's sorority bitches who know frat rituals, it ain't that damn deep.

im sure that's all u had to do to get in...it's just funny how damn near every year there is a hazing related death from some college..but im sure that's the only college where hazing and other sick shit is being done at..and i got frat friends as well...even was gonna join one until someone who went to the meeting before me came back to the dorm and told me what all went down...and that was just to get past the first stage
 
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usmarin3;1862409 said:
I am in a frat dude, you wanna know what i did to get in. I did community service, show up the events on campus, pay fraternity dues (money) which is used for our stuff (clothes, food,etc) and then we had learn history about the fraternity. Overall a fraternity is just a organize way of networking with people who share the same interests as you. No devil shit or nothing about that, it's just like anything else, it's pretty much networking. As for secretiveness mombo jumbo, most frat shit can be found on the internet or just by asking any brother. It's sorority bitches who know frat rituals, it ain't that damn deep.

Disciplined InSight;1862393 said:
Why do people take the term "selling your soul to the devil" so literal when it basically means to you'll do anything, I repeat ANYTHING to get toward a goal, which is this case meaning for a higher financial goal...money management is a main factor for success, but if you think these people just WORK HARD to get there, then you are fuckin' fooling yourself.

Good point @ the bolded.

In college to join ANY fraternity or a sorority, whether it's a BLACK or WHITE group you have to go through their respective rituals regardless of you having a 4.0 GPA, regardless of you helping in your community, regardless of how popular an athlete or person you were at your high school(even though these frats and sorors look at those credentials), you still have to go through a ritual and all it's foundations and rules are SECRETIVE. That's for ALL of them...and some of those rituals are damn near degrading..and for what? For a better advantage in the corporate world..the same goes in the entertainment industry as well.

Just reposting my point to amplify the point in the bold parts.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1862393 said:
Why do people take the term "selling your soul to the devil" so literal when it basically means to you'll do anything, I repeat ANYTHING to get toward a goal, which is this case meaning for a higher financial goal...money management is a main factor for success, but if you think these people just WORK HARD to get there, then you are fuckin' fooling yourself.

Good point @ the bolded.

In college to join ANY fraternity or a sorority, whether it's a BLACK or WHITE group you have to go through their respective rituals regardless of you having a 4.0 GPA, regardless of you helping in your community, regardless of how popular an athlete or person you were at your high school(even though these frats and sorors look at those credentials), you still have to go through a ritual and all it's foundations and rules are SECRETIVE. That's for ALL of them...and some of those rituals are damn near degrading..and for what? For a better advantage in the corporate world..the same goes in the entertainment industry as well.

so wat do they do to make people like there stuff movies music etc...wat did master p do? his time came and went people liked his shit he made 100 mill.they cant make people like u.its hard work,in some cases talent lol,god,good business skill and promoting and a gimmick (no limit soldiers etc)
 
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Disciplined InSight;1862434 said:
Key word: Compromise..in the same bracket as "selling your soul".

Half of these "good businessmen" aren't really that smart. They have great white Jewish brothers as associates to help them make these big business decisions. That goes for Puff, Jay-Z, Oprah, etc... Russell Simmons even said it, he knows because he started Def Jam with Rick Ruben, who is Jewish.

wat do u mean by smart
 
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aviator;1862210 said:
i dont think he meant the devil literally,and if its a secret club why is he talkin about it on national tv...and he is still alive ?

I know that

when folks talk bout "sold his soul to the devil" its not a red demon w/ horns & a pitchfork

but the powers that be in suits & ties
 
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truth spitter;1862466 said:
im sure that's all u had to do to get in...it's just funny how damn near every year there is a hazing related death from some college..but im sure that's the only college where hazing and other sick shit is being done at..and i got frat friends as well...even was gonna join one until someone who went to the meeting before me came back to the dorm and told me what all went down...and that was just to get past the first stage

So you find isolated incidents and paint the whole greek culture as that. smh Hazing is looked down upon and punishable by every frat headquarters and college campus, my campus alone has lost 4 frats from hazing. I don't see what the fuck hazing have to do with anything either, just forcing mfs to drink, or wear stupid shit is what goes on any normal college campus. Yall are reading way too much into shit, a lot of this shit goes on in regular society, it's not mutually exclusive to frats.
 
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Brian B.;1862499 said:
I know that

when folks talk bout "sold his soul to the devil" its not a red demon w/ horns & a pitchfork

but the powers that be in suits & ties

so doin business is evil?dont u make beats?not tryna be funny just askin
 
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Brian B.;1862499 said:
I know that

when folks talk bout "sold his soul to the devil" its not a red demon w/ horns & a pitchfork

but the powers that be in suits & ties

Which everyone does, not unless you live your life like a Aborigines.
 
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I don't know about Jay-Z snitching but it is funny how all them N@gga's got heavy CIA FBI looking into their money and where it was coming from soon after they was trying to start that distrubution company and the rise of Jay-Z, Dre, Puffy, and all them as CEO's of Labels under big white disturbuters is funny to. I will end my comment with this the truth is stranger than fiction
 
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