So I just got done listening to Professor Griff on the Tariq Elite podcast...

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aviator;1862513 said:
so doin business is evil?dont u make beats?not tryna be funny just askin

did I say doin business is evil? no

but if you look at the top CEOs (see wallstreet, & not the damn movie) they've done some evil shit to get there

Enron?

Bernie Madoff?
 
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aviator;1862474 said:
so wat do they do to make people like there stuff movies music etc...wat did master p do? his time came and went people liked his shit he made 100 mill.they cant make people like u.its hard work,in some cases talent lol,god,good business skill and promoting and a gimmick (no limit soldiers etc)

Master P, even with all his success and all and even if his music is/was a reflection of his life (or claims of a life he really didn't live) he had Priority Records over him. They took the Southern Hip Hop culture and overexploited with those album covers that looked like a joke. Even though P's hustle is respected he is also one of the main reasons why Southern Hip Hop was looked at as a fuckin' joke. You know they didn't respect his rap skills, only his business hustle and Priority Records used it and hyperbole it to the point it made the South look coonish i.e. shucking and jiving.
 
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Jay Kay Mack;1862537 said:
I don't know about Jay-Z snitching but it is funny how all them N@gga's got heavy CIA FBI looking into their money and where it was coming from soon after they was trying to start that distrubution company and the rise of Jay-Z, Dre, Puffy, and all them as CEO's of Labels under big white disturbuters is funny to. I will end my comment with this the truth is stranger than fiction

Well when you mix street niggas (Supreme) with legit business, you draw attention to yourself. The FBI and IRS are gonna make sure you aren't washing money, i would think this would be common sense. Where niggas like Irv fucked up is tryna bring street niggas with records with them, and these niggas still in the street life, it reeks of a conspiracy charge.

Master P and Jay-z learned that, you have to leave them street niggas behind.
 
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Jay Kay Mack;1862537 said:
I don't know about Jay-Z snitching but it is funny how all them N@gga's got heavy CIA FBI looking into their money and where it was coming from soon after they was trying to start that distrubution company and the rise of Jay-Z, Dre, Puffy, and all them as CEO's of Labels under big white disturbuters is funny to. I will end my comment with this the truth is stranger than fiction

It's not funny...at least you see it for what it is. None of them own shit. Our great white Jewish brothers won't allow it.

"You don't own us, but we'll own you"...that's what they're saying.

Why you think none of them broke the billion dollar barrier yet? Dr. Dre, Russell Simmons and Puff been in business a long time and they never broke it..niggas bragging and thinking Jay is close to breaking it? Not happening.
 
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usmarin3;1862585 said:
Well when you mix street niggas (Supreme) with legit business, you draw attention to yourself. The FBI and IRS are gonna make sure you aren't washing money, i would think this would be common sense. Where niggas like Irv fucked up is tryna bring street niggas with records with them, and these niggas still in the street life, it reeks of a conspiracy charge.

Master P and Jay-z learned that, you have to leave them street niggas behind.

Even though what you said about Supreme and Murder Inc is true...you don't think the FBI got a tip from someone that led them and the IRS of their "conspiracy charge"? *cough*50 Cent*cough*
 
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Brian B.;1862566 said:
did I say doin business is evil? no

but if you look at the top CEOs (see wallstreet, & not the damn movie) they've done some evil shit to get there

Enron?

Bernie Madoff?

yea behind most fortunes its dirt,thats common sense,money laundering,embezzlement,insinder trading,stuff that actually makes mills,billies,even trillions,notsome sell ur soul drink goats blood bullshit,howe do u even sell ur soul,and wat that got to do wit people liking music clothes etc they cant make u like it?
 
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Disciplined InSight;1862643 said:
Even though what you said about Supreme and Murder Inc is true...you don't think the FBI got a tip from someone that led them and the IRS of their "conspiracy charge"? *cough*50 Cent*cough*

When millions of dollars are involve in business transactions and deals the government automatically gets notified dude, if you deposit 10 K or more in your bank account, the bank automatically notifies the government, this is basically shit and a conspiracy charge basically means two or more people are involved in a crime (it's a automatic charge). Trust me, the government has organizations who overlooks everything, they track everything through your bank and transactions, they don't need no one to snitch.
 
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usmarin3;1862684 said:
When millions of dollars are involve in business transactions and deals the government automatically gets notified dude, if you deposit 10 K or more in your bank account, the bank automatically notifies the government, this is basically shit and a conspiracy charge basically means two or more people are involved in a crime (it's a automatic charge). Trust me, the government has organizations who overlooks everything, they track everything through your bank and transactions, they don't need no one to snitch.

Hmmmm...That's true as well...it's funny that you mention how the government keeps track of shit like this but no one wants believe the fact that we are being watched by those in the upper echelons of those who run it.

You just made my point valid as to why these Hip Hop moguls will never break that billion dollar man mark.
 
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griff got kicked out of PE for saying racist things about jews

imus got kicked off the radio for saying racist things about blacks

it evens out

you cant say anything genuinely racist in the media or you'll get kicked out

some black people want a double standard so they can be racist, but its not hapnin
 
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Disciplined InSight;1862730 said:
Hmmmm...That's true as well...it's funny that you mention how the government keeps track of shit like this but no one wants believe the fact that we are being watched by those in the upper echelons of those who run it.

You just made my point valid as to why these Hip Hop moguls will never break that billion dollar man mark.

Actually he didn't. You acting as if a billion is a million. Jimmy Iovine been in the music business since the 70's and he's not even a billionaire. You're talking about people who are damn near mid 90's. Come on now.....
 
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Suge, Irv, and J Prince starting a distribution company is the smartest dumb move I've ever heard. All three of them have been under investigation by the Feds and police for starting their company with drug money and having ties to prison gangs, blood gangs, and street gangs. As soon as they pool their money together to start a business, you can seize all their assets under the RICO law. Didnt yall see Dark Knight? If you were Jay or Dame, knowing your own companies history and what Biggs may or may not have been doing with dude from High Times magazine, why would you get involved with this project?

Somebody should start an online distribution company like Amalgam Digital. That was a good idea.
 
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Disciplined InSight;1862581 said:
Master P, even with all his success and all and even if his music is/was a reflection of his life (or claims of a life he really didn't live) he had Priority Records over him. They took the Southern Hip Hop culture and overexploited with those album covers that looked like a joke. Even though P's hustle is respected he is also one of the main reasons why Southern Hip Hop was looked at as a fuckin' joke. You know they didn't respect his rap skills, only his business hustle and Priority Records used it and hyperbole it to the point it made the South look coonish i.e. shucking and jiving.

im not a no limit fan i just respect his business skills and how is he a coon,and pen and pexil did those covers he wasnt the first to do it,and how is he a coon cause he country,and so wat if they dont respecy his music skills u think them people respect rakim or kane and how did he set hiphop back,he opened up doors,and them people dont know shit about rap music its about money so who cares if they like his music,and if your in the music industry youll get exploited,that goes for everybody from jay-z,nas pac,Rakim,g rap,scareface,ugk,tribe,kanye and everybody else its just about pimping the sitiation,but like i said i personally think nuggas just dont like seeing others do good and cant see they self doin it on a millionaire level so they find ways to rationalize other peoples success.
 
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Im not saying Griff is making this shit up. He does actually claim sources unlike some of these other conspiracy theorists.

But alot of times he makes claims without backing up "where" he gets this info
 
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