SO according to critics how/why is president Obama the worst president in US history?

[gns]

U dont get it?

U remember that song "one of these things aint like the other....."

Look at a pic of all the prez' in history and youll c y they could even fix their mouth to say that shit especially after 2 terms of bush

One of those things just doesnt belong

 

[The_Jackal]

Alot of people don't know simply history so they shouldn't really speak on it.

I mean you git Andrew Jackson who shut down national bank and caused a huge depression

You have Ronald Reagan and his imperialists conquest of communist country's

Just to name two

 

[zzombie]

He's not but his foreign policy leaves much to be desired

 

[playmaker88]

he's the blackest.

 

[kingblaze84]

He's not the worst president, I give that honor to George W Bush, Richard Nixon isn't too far behind.

Obama has disappointed me in many ways, but he's nowhere near the worst.

 

[kingblaze84]

I dare say Obama could be a top 16 president. If it wasn't for his warmongering, mishandling of Obamacare, and sucking up to Israel, he would have made my top 10 list.

 

[janklow]

anyone calling a current (or even very recent) president the "worst ever" is either ignorant or saying it for shock value.

Especially with lowering the unemployment rate.

not really sure how Obama gets credit for this, though

Richard Nixon

underrated because of him being a terrible human being

 

[Paprika]

4-way tie between Regan, Nixon, Bush and Clinton

Nixon. Aside from the Watergate scandal, there was the Vietnam War which he continued after opposing it in his campaigning. Senseless bombing and lives lost. Secret service members being utilized like the KGB.

There is a case for Clinton as well, over 400,000 people imprisoned during his two terms. Incentives to states for locking people up, increase of federal prisons being built and more policeman to service and harass people in their communities. Repeal of Glass-Steagall, 3 strikes, etc.

Bush and Regan are otherwise obvious.

 

[The_Jackal]

Bush isn't even that bad compared to others

 

[kingblaze84]

anyone calling a current (or even very recent) president the "worst ever" is either ignorant or saying it for shock value.

Especially with lowering the unemployment rate.

not really sure how Obama gets credit for this, though

Richard Nixon

underrated because of him being a terrible human being

Why is Nixon underrated? He kept the Vietnam War going on longer than necessary (it actually was never necessary). He continued the draft, which was unpopular.

And GWB may not be THE worst president (still debateable), but for the Iraq War disaster, he's gotta be one of the worst at a minimum

 

[kingblaze84]

Bush isn't even that bad compared to others

Can you name five presidents worse than him?

 

[The_Jackal]

Bush isn't even that bad compared to others

Can you name five presidents worse than him?

Easily. Andrew Jackson(disregarding pervious treaties, trail of tears, most importantly destroying that era fed reserve and using gold standard)

John Adams (Alien and sedition Act nuff said)

James Buchanan (Allowing three fifth compromise to continue, Dred Scott case, pushed to allow slavery in newly formed states)

Franklin Pierce (saw aboloionist movement as a threat to the great white nation Kansas-Nebraska act strictly enforcing fugitive slave act and basically setting the stage for southern secession

And Nixon

 

[kingblaze84]

Bush isn't even that bad compared to others

Can you name five presidents worse than him?

Easily. Andrew Jackson(disregarding pervious treaties, trail of tears, most importantly destroying that time fed reserve and using gold standard)

John Adams (Alien and sedition Act nuff said)

James Buchanan (Allowing three fifth compromise to continue, Dred Scott case, pushed to allow slavery in newly formed states)

Franklin Pierce (saw aboloionist movement as a threat to the great white nation Kansas-Nebraska act strictly enforcing fugitive slave act and basically setting the stage for southern secession

And Nixon

You know your history, and I can mostly agree, though I think the Iraq War long term will be seen historically as more damaging to world security then the Vietnam War was. For that reason, I have Bush being worse then Nixon. As horrible as Vietnam was, the negative effects of that war I think won't be as brutal and far reaching as those from the war in Iraq. The demons of the war in Iraq has effected nations way outside the Middle East, while the Vietnam War's effects MOSTLY were contained in Asia.

I gotta look up more on John Adams and the Sedition Act though

 

[janklow]

Why is Nixon underrated? He kept the Vietnam War going on longer than necessary (it actually was never necessary). He continued the draft, which was unpopular.

underrated domestic programs aside from drug stuff. but the thing is, Nixon is demonized as the WORST PRESIDENT and he's really not. he's just a really shitty person and that drags him down. easy to be underrated.

And GWB may not be THE worst president (still debateable), but for the Iraq War disaster, he's gotta be one of the worst at a minimum

the fact is that Bush II and Obama shouldn't really be rated, for good or bad, because we're still living out the aftereffects of their decisions/policies/whatever. you may notice that people have EXTREME opinions about them for some reason.

consider that presidents around the Franklin Pierce era may have sucked and no one seems to care or know anything about them... but they're SO SURE Bush/Obama are much worse.

 

[janklow]

James Buchanan (Allowing three fifth compromise to continue, Dred Scott case, pushed to allow slavery in newly formed states)

Franklin Pierce (saw aboloionist movement as a threat to the great white nation Kansas-Nebraska act strictly enforcing fugitive slave act and basically setting the stage for southern secession

this right here makes it a good post.

 

[The_Jackal]

Bush isn't even that bad compared to others

Can you name five presidents worse than him?

Easily. Andrew Jackson(disregarding pervious treaties, trail of tears, most importantly destroying that time fed reserve and using gold standard)

John Adams (Alien and sedition Act nuff said)

James Buchanan (Allowing three fifth compromise to continue, Dred Scott case, pushed to allow slavery in newly formed states)

Franklin Pierce (saw aboloionist movement as a threat to the great white nation Kansas-Nebraska act strictly enforcing fugitive slave act and basically setting the stage for southern secession

And Nixon

You know your history, and I can mostly agree, though I think the Iraq War long term will be seen historically as more damaging to world security then the Vietnam War was. For that reason, I have Bush being worse then Nixon. As horrible as Vietnam was, the negative effects of that war I think won't be as brutal and far reaching as those from the war in Iraq. The demons of the war in Iraq has effected nations way outside the Middle East, while the Vietnam War's effects MOSTLY were contained in Asia.

I gotta look up more on John Adams and the Sedition Act though

History major that's why and sedition Act basically forbid the press from speaking "malice" about John Adams and his office. Crazy seeing that he was a founding father and they just got finished with the American revolution not even 20 years ago

 

[kenz_music]

theyre all the same

 

[kingblaze84]

Why is Nixon underrated? He kept the Vietnam War going on longer than necessary (it actually was never necessary). He continued the draft, which was unpopular.

underrated domestic programs aside from drug stuff. but the thing is, Nixon is demonized as the WORST PRESIDENT and he's really not. he's just a really shitty person and that drags him down. easy to be underrated.

And GWB may not be THE worst president (still debateable), but for the Iraq War disaster, he's gotta be one of the worst at a minimum

the fact is that Bush II and Obama shouldn't really be rated, for good or bad, because we're still living out the aftereffects of their decisions/policies/whatever. you may notice that people have EXTREME opinions about them for some reason.

consider that presidents around the Franklin Pierce era may have sucked and no one seems to care or know anything about them... but they're SO SURE Bush/Obama are much worse.

Aight, well with the Vietnam War mess, Nixon was a shitty president in general too. He promised to end the war and instead dragged it out for 4 or 5 more years. All this while KNOWING the war was unnecessary, so fuck him.

And yeah Franklin Pierce and Andrew Jackson were worse then Bush morally and politically, but I actually heard some historians say a few years ago George Dubya was likely in the bottom 5 or 10 of worst presidents of all time. I have a strong feeling historians in the future will agree with that, his legacy has been pretty horrible. My dream is that Bush and Cheney get arrested one day for war crimes, but I'm satisfied knowing Bush can't even enter several countries now because so many of them have warrants for his arrest.

 

[kingblaze84]

In a poll of many historians in 2008, 61% voted George W Bush the worst president in American history.....98% voted it a failure. Not saying these historians are totally right, but I certainly see where they're coming from haha
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/48916

HNN Poll: 61% of Historians Rate the Bush Presidency Worst

“No individual president can compare to the second Bush,” wrote one. “Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.”

“With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct,” said another historian. “When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency.



- See more at:http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/48916#sthash.N0X2B8Yu.dpuf

 

[The_Jackal]

Niggas only vote bush in because it's recent memory. If you got together a million early American history scholars promise he wouldn't be that high up. Like Janklow said Iraq war was a mess but we really have to see how it continues to play out.