rodneyskinner;8584988 said:zzombie;8583035 said:rodneyskinner;8582826 said:zzombie;8573927 said:rodneyskinner;8572032 said:zzombie;8565101 said:rodneyskinner;8565071 said:zzombie;8523161 said:He's not but his foreign policy leaves much to be desired
The one thing that is his strength to me is his foreign policy. We were the bad guys of the world. Europe, China, Russia and the countries of the middle east were all united against us. Everybody was talking about how wrong we were. Now they are all stuck in the area. Now what we saw as a global threat the world is seeing. So we are the good guys again. Allowing us to trade and travel in peace. Go somewhere especially in the arab and persian regions and they call you "Obama Obama".
Unless you are going to occupy a country and reap the spoils of war WHY NATION BUILD. You can't win a war in the middle east. Its simple. They surrender and then go guerrilla warfare. Honestly Japan is the only culture fit for takeover. Because the people are conditioned for subjugation. In the middle east and Africa they have two things poverty and tribalism. That disambiguation of nothing to lose people is not able to be ruled with a liberal pen. It needs an iron fist. We are to democratized at war to rule in the middle east. You will have to fracture the nations into so many tiny fragments they'd be counties instead of countries.
The only time Patraeus won the war in Iraq it was because he was using war dollars to give people jobs. So we are going to take billions of dollars in TAXPAYER money and just give it away to keep people from fighting. Why not put that in our education system. Give our people jobs. Better our country. To me Obama has done a great job here.
His foreign policy is trash. under him isis came into power, china continues to steal American intellectual property and electronically infiltrate American companies. Syria went to shit, Libya went to shit, Egypt went to shit, yemen went to shit. The arab world in general went to shit , Obama talked shit about red lines and did nothing when assad crossed it.
America pulling out of Iraq was the dumbest thing America ever did in the middle east second only to removing saddam in the first place. china is building fake islands in an attempt to claim resources that don't belong to them Russia is bullying and has the eastern european states worried
Yeah they all went to crap but that's their problem not our's. None of the enemies that the US fought in Iraq and Afghanistan brought you ISIS. It was a totally separate movement. You want your children and family and neighbors to die for what. Those people can handle their own business. Don't believe Isis came to power because the people didn't want them. Don't forget the Muslim Brotherhood etc. You have to allow the ideal to die and they have to believe that its not Western influence causing their problem. They don't want to be puppet countries that's what most Americans don't get. They want to have their own pride in themselves. So a Caliphate ushers in the days of the Turkish empire when middle east wielded power. They want that again. Obama is smart. Let the world deal with it. Isis is now the enemy of Russia, China, Europe and The US. Before US was the enemy of Russia ISIS China and Europe.
China has been stealing our technology since the Clinton Administration. Chinese problem you mentioned is real. You can't stop everything with Violence. What Obama did was to attack China with the TPP. Now the TPP will mean less jobs for Americans. It also means less jobs and investments in China. Aa
No it's our problem because Isis is destabilizing the whole region and it's spreading to our allies and becoming their problem. (Refugee crisis) greater terrorist attacks in Europe. Which means it will be our problem in the short future. the people in the middle east cannot take care of the problem that should be obvious by now.
If you know anything about history you should know that a caliph by its very nature seeks conquest the idea cannot die it's too central to the religion of Islam and that area of the world has most of the oil the world's economy currently needs. I don't want war but it's inevitable there's no way around it all the western world is doing is stalling.
Violence against China would be stupid but something has to be done about their stealing intellectual property And antagonizing the southern Asian nations.
ALLIES? Allies pick up a gun when their friends attack. I don't remember any Israeli Troops, I don't remember seeing Saudi Arabia dollars paying some of that war debt. They gave us airspace not even bullets. Here go some free air you welcome to fly all over this free air. Meanwhile we running the Mexicans out and they over their fighting the WAR wearing the American Flag. We gotta take in the Muslims now. WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR ALLIES IN THE REGION? Oh yeah they gave us that free air. See as an American you think you have to get'er done. If you see something broke you fix it. Those countries they don't put windows in they house so they don't have to pay taxes. I don't think many Americans worry about paying a 2000 a year property tax in the place of some windows.
Obama did do something about China.
http://www.chinalawblog.com/2015/06/tpp-will-hurt-china-companies.html
China makes the majority of their money through the IDEA of growth. Most of China's money comes not from consumer consumption but construction projects paid for by the Central Bank. Its justified in the expansion because of their economies faux GDP growth. Well if investors find cheaper areas to bring their goods to US Markets then China is in a world of trouble.
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sorry but that's not really doing shit to china they are still constructing fake islands in the south china sea to claim resources and their economy is still growing and most likely they are still stealing
our allies like saudi arabia only buy and sell oil in american dollars thus ensuring the power of the petrodollar that keeps the america position all over the world strong. A political ally is not a friend he is someone that you are using while he is also using you.
Chinas economy is fake growing. Its like Enron only the central is making the markets. Look where the growth in GDP comes from.
NEXT DID YOU SEE WHAT OBAMA POLICIES DID.
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-urges-military-destroy-threats-forces-syria-122046282.html
china does have it's economic issues all nations do but china is still growing in power and influence the collapse of it's economy would also adversely affect the american economy. russia getting involved in the middle east is not a great accomplishment it's a result of american weakness