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The challenge is still open for a cultist to come in here and show me a specific event or scripture in the bible that lines up with a specific event today, to the point that its not debatable that the bible is a man made book and god is a man made idea.

Something specific and accurate would not need to be interpreted, it would be direct and harsh. The words of the bible are neither.
 
ShiveDreadz;5138600 said:
Keyword VAGUE...

The challenge is still open for a cultist to come in here and show me a specific event or scripture in the bible that lines up with a specific event today, to the point that its not debatable that the bible is a man made book and god is a man made idea.

Huh? Revelations CLEARLY states in end of days there will be chips implanted in humans. Please explain to me how somebody would be able to know what a microchip was back then? Then how would they know they'd be implanted in humans?

Your theory is flawed and you know it. Atheist's have no real reason to hate GOD other than a excuse to live w/o any accountability. Jesus died for yall yet you turn your back? Ungrateful niggaz

 
I hate that argument. Terrible argument.

"Athiests reject God because they want to be able to do whatever they want"

Believers have been doing terrible things for millennia. A belief in God is not the basis of morality. Nor is accountability really meaningful at all when you are accounting factual events to the work of seemingly fictitious characters (prove they exist. You can not logically conclude something without adequate evidence. Rule 1 of logic, word to Hume).

Belief in one's self & holding one's self accountable for their behavior & the course of their life >>> Belief in Ancient Fairy tales
 
RodrigueZz;5138802 said:
I hate that argument. Terrible argument.

"Athiests reject God because they want to be able to do whatever they want"

Believers have been doing terrible things for millennia. A belief in God is not the basis of morality. Nor is accountability really meaningful at all when you are accounting factual events to the work of seemingly fictitious characters (prove they exist. You can not logically conclude something without adequate evidence. Rule 1 of logic, word to Hume).

Belief in one's self & holding one's self accountable for their behavior & the course of their life >>> Belief in Ancient Fairy tales

That's a religious concept also

No Original Sin

In the following, be aware that the word "Torah" is often used to denote Talmud. See Critical Words of Talmud Study. (49) The following statements were excerpted from three contiguous pages — the ellipses (…) indicate omitted text, following a thread in Rabbi Boteach's thinking.

Jews Do Not Believe in Original Sin and the Fall of Man, a Cornerstone of Christian Faith. … Judaism does not promote the idea that people are born either meritorious or sinful. Rather the individual is born innocent … The Torah does speak of Adam's sin. But it teaches that man can rise above it. Righteousness may be challenging, but it was for this treason that God gave humankind the Torah.

— Rabbi Boteach (17)

Original Sin is a critical point of departure between Christians and Jews. Many Christians believe Original Sin prevents man from attaining perfection, and that political power must be limited for fear of doing evil on a grand scale. Without the Original Sin doctrine, men have no inhibition about the concentration of political power.

Jews Focus on This World, Christians the Next

To understand the import of the following, be aware that the word "Torah" is most commonly used to denote the Talmud. See Critical Words of Talmud Study. (49)

Christianity Is Oriented Toward the Next World, Judaism Toward This World. Christianity posits that the purpose of man is to achieve the salvation of his soul and to attain everlasting life in Paradise … Judaism is oriented toward this world and steadfastly promotes the idea that man's purpose is to perfect the world and bring godliness into an otherwise un-Godly planet.

— Rabbi Boteach, (10) (emphasis added)

So then, we understand that since Judaism introduces God into this un-Godly heathen world, Jews have a special mission. They must assume authority over all mankind, lest un-Godliness prevail. Jews remember what Jesus said:

My Kingdom is not of this world.

— Jesus of Nazareth, as quoted in John 18:36 (KJV)

But the Jews know their kingdom is of this world. Talmud Law assumes authority over all mankind, not just those who agree with it; Just as explorers in the New World lay claim to lands that are new to them, and lay claim to the native populations, the Jews lay claim to this world, and all its native populations.

We now understand Rabbi Boteach's interest in the distinction — those who believe in "this world" will rule over those who believe in the "next world."

Rabbi Jacob Neusner, writing in 1995, expresses the same thought in almost the same words.

The Talmud is a public, political, anonymous, collective, social statement; its compilers intended to define the life of the public polity by forming the kingdom of God in the here and now …

— Rabbi Dr. Neusner (46)

A kingdom of God in the here and now, based on the Talmud.
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RodrigueZz;5138802 said:
I hate that argument. Terrible argument.

"Athiests reject God because they want to be able to do whatever they want"

Believers have been doing terrible things for millennia. A belief in God is not the basis of morality. Nor is accountability really meaningful at all when you are accounting factual events to the work of seemingly fictitious characters (prove they exist. You can not logically conclude something without adequate evidence. Rule 1 of logic, word to Hume).

Belief in one's self & holding one's self accountable for their behavior & the course of their life >>> Belief in Ancient Fairy tales

We can do this all day

Fairytales dont leave archelogical evidence behind. Again, theres more proof the events in the bible took place then anything you can provide me. Also, nobody can explain how the bible talks of chips be implanted yet it somehow became non credible. How could they have predicted this (Among other things) thousands & thousands of years before modern technology. But the bible is fairytales? Yall theories ain't adding up

 
Alot of ya'll got beef with stupid people who follow religion, not religion itself. The basic principles are simply be a morally good person and don't fuck over the next man and it's hard to really be against that...those same dumb asses, child molesting preachers, and extremists would still be that way it'd just be directed at another source...
 
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DR. JEK;5137814 said:
West Brooklyn ;5131160 said:
DR. JEK;5130726 said:
West Brooklyn ;5129448 said:
DR. JEK;5129374 said:
And what I was talkin about views being forced on others, It's stuff like California governor Signing a bill last year requiring gay history to be taught in schools. From what I heard Parents cant even pull their kids outta school if they dont want their kids to get taught about that stuff

(which they should have a right to do) because it's a requirement. Yet christian students that dont believe in that cant even pray at school. Im not just making shit up, everything goes it seems for everybody but christians get the short end of the stick because when christians are offended no one cares. When everybody else get offended about something these days, it seems like measures are taken to accommedate their complaints.

A view is subjective. Teaching the history of something or someone is (supposed to be) more of an objective approach. So it's not really "forcing the gay view" on students. For example, would you say learning about Hitler is forcing nazi views on students? I'll answer that for you. Of course not.

Praying in school has nothing to do with education, which is what school exists for. If you want your children to pray, go to a religious school. Public school attempts to sit somewhere in the middle so that no one's religious backgrounds are compromised because kids in public schools are diverse.

I think the difference in learning about what world war 2 was about, and a sexual preference is totally apples and oranges my dude. No one is stoppin gays from making their own student clubs in school (if so then that would be wrong) to learn futher about that stuff but to make it a part of regular ciriculum is a little much to me. even African American history is an elective that you have to take on your own out here so I just disagree with you fundamentality about this one. If Praying has nothing to do with education and should be a personal side thing then a sexual preference or it's significance shouldn't have anything to do with it either.

Praying in school would be equivalent to having sex in school. Neither is allowed. Learning history of any peoples regardless of background is relevant in educational study. Sexuality is human psychology.

Your analogies you use be way the fuck off. Prayer actually use to be allowed in school once apon a time, having sex on the desk never was lol. A sexual preference in grade school shouldn't have its own ciriculum and mothing you say will make me feel different loanymore than nothing i show you will make you feel any different about american founders being influenced off christianity even tho there are websites I could link you to that explains different. We can just agree to disagree but strickly from an opinion standpoint.......as tough as it is to get a job is this economic climate getting wrote up over a merry christmas sweater as apose to one that simply says "happy holidays" is very unfortunate. If you're management you gotta wonder why merry christmas would affend someone so much as apose to knee jerk reacting to the dime dropper.

My analogies may be off for you only because you lack clear understanding. But we can move past that if you are having trouble. It seems that your major issue is with this company and you feel connected to this womans experience based on your beliefs which is natural. Maybe you should protest and turn those emotions into something productive
 
Onyx_Guard;5138353 said:
Believers are weird as fuck, usually niggas want proof before they believe something but not these niggas. These niggas would lay on the grass look up at the sky and connect the sky being beautiful to proof of their being a god.

Irony?



"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands."
Psalms 19:1

 
ohhhla;5137576 said:
Disciplined InSight;5137337 said:
ohhhla;5137317 said:
Disciplined InSight;5137147 said:
ohhhla;5137105 said:
I'm sorry. I choose to be in stuff with evidence, that's it.

Faith is not reality.

Translation: I don't see it with my own eyes, I don't believe it.

Gotcha.

Lol@ you believing a religion that came from the White men. Mr. Afrocentric

I can't see atoms, oxygen, and etc but I know they do exist.

My brain thru CT scans and etc.

False.

White man stole it from Blacks and perverted it genius.

The shit came from the Middle East where there's mostly white folks

What the hell are you talking?

Read a book.

Christianity evolved from the spiritual system of ancient Kemet(black people) along with other systems of that region. It's funny because the same shit they are condemning, such as polytheism and what is considered pagan is at the origin of their religious beliefs. Basically monotheism is the evolution of polytheism. All this shit is connected that's why I find it funny when people play this back and forth shit.

Reminds me of when I was studying to be a Jehovah's Witness and found out that Charles Taze Russell was a Freemason. I told my family who were witnesses and they twisted it, trying to say that god takes bad things and uses it for good, but yet they still continue to condemn Freemasonry. Logically, you either have to make the decision to abandon your beliefs with the bad associations or maybe realize that the divide between holy and unholy isn't as vast as you think.
 
blackamerica;5137865 said:
Turfaholic;5136086 said:
The big bang theory n evolution are more accurate than the bible. How many niggas u seen die and rise again lol

Wait a minute. The big bang theory predicted microchip implants? Did it predict dead animals mysteriously dropping dead? Everything going on today from gays, natural disasters, wars, rumors of wars & plaques were seen coming thanks to the bible. True or false?

Big bang theory GTFOH my nigga

1. The Bible never predicted microchips

2. Dead animals are already dead so they can't drop dead.

3. Gays been around since humanity has.

4.Natural disaster were around before humans even existed.

5. Wow wars and rumor of wars? How out there was that prediction? I can't believe they were able to guess that.

 
blackamerica;5137865 said:
Turfaholic;5136086 said:
The big bang theory n evolution are more accurate than the bible. How many niggas u seen die and rise again lol

Wait a minute. The big bang theory predicted microchip implants? Did it predict dead animals mysteriously dropping dead? Everything going on today from gays, natural disasters, wars, rumors of wars & plaques were seen coming thanks to the bible. True or false?

Big bang theory GTFOH my nigga

Most of the "predictions" from the bible are very general and occur all throughout history. Look at your list and think about it. The most legitimate one though is the microchips as I've seen scriptures that seemed to describe them.
 
RodrigueZz;5138380 said:
Atheism does seem to be picking up momentum and there are more people who are questioning religion which is awesome

I just hope those who are turning away from religion aren't doing so mindlessly like those who turn towards religion. A sheep is a sheep - regardless of religious belief.

Turning away from the faith is one of the major signs of the end of the age. Thus when the antichrist makes his appearance as god, the world will be shocked into believing that there really is a "god". And most of the citizens of the world will be lining up, like cows line up for the slaughter house, to receive the mark of the beast.

You reap what you sow. You sow godlessness, you'll reap godlessness. And the world will get what they always wanted during the tribulation period, a world ruled by godlessness. The antichrist is going to make Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Pol Pot, Ivan the terrible, and Genghis Khan look like choir boys compared to the carnage and destruction that he will bring when he rules. If the tribulation period did not end at Gods appointed time this is what He said would happen:



"And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."
Mark 13:20
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5139220 said:
RodrigueZz;5138380 said:
Atheism does seem to be picking up momentum and there are more people who are questioning religion which is awesome

I just hope those who are turning away from religion aren't doing so mindlessly like those who turn towards religion. A sheep is a sheep - regardless of religious belief.

Turning away from the faith is one of the major signs of the end of the age. Thus when the antichrist makes his appearance as god, the world will be shocked into believing that there really is a "god". And most of the citizens of the world will be lining up, like cows line up for the slaughter house, to receive the mark of the beast.

You reap what you sow. You sow godlessness, you'll reap godlessness. And the world will get what they always wanted during the tribulation period, a world ruled by godlessness. The antichrist is going to make Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Pol Pot, Ivan the terrible, and Genghis Khan look like choir boys compared to the carnage and destruction that he will bring when he rules. If the tribulation period did not end at Gods appointed time this is what He said would happen:



"And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."
Mark 13:20

Are you threatening motherfuckas?

 
hiphop12345;5139205 said:
blackamerica;5137865 said:
Turfaholic;5136086 said:
The big bang theory n evolution are more accurate than the bible. How many niggas u seen die and rise again lol

Wait a minute. The big bang theory predicted microchip implants? Did it predict dead animals mysteriously dropping dead? Everything going on today from gays, natural disasters, wars, rumors of wars & plaques were seen coming thanks to the bible. True or false?

Big bang theory GTFOH my nigga

1. The Bible never predicted microchips

2. Dead animals are already dead so they can't drop dead.

3. Gays been around since humanity has.

4.Natural disaster were around before humans even existed.

5. Wow wars and rumor of wars? How out there was that prediction? I can't believe they were able to guess that.

1. He's talking about the mark of the beast and how it will be placed in the forehead or the hand and you will not be able to operate in society without it. From my knowledge this is probably the most legitimate argument as far as bible predictions goes. There are similarities there, but the bible is not the only religious text to speak on future occurrences.
 
Gen. Stasia;5138499 said:
blackamerica;5138451 said:
[quote="DMTxCannabis;5138041Dude is delirious.. no Eddie Murphy..

Niggaz pick in choose what they respond 2 lol

Yall wanna discredit the bible but have YET to explain how someone could accurately predict current events from THOUSANDS of years ago w/ no technology.

Yall niggaz either trolls or insecure blame shifters. The big bang theory has too many holes to be taken seriously

Who discredits the bible? I think the bible has some truths told in a way that was encoded. Issue is that everyones interpretation is different. So its hard to choose which is which. But a lot gets lost in translation.

And religion has the most holes in it and that's only in Genesis.

"Let US make man in OUR Image"

Who the fuck is Us?

And when Cain left who was these other people he met up with?

And how retarded was the first off spring being that mating with family is proven to cause mental retardation?

1. "Let us make man in OUR image" declares the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

2. Cain had brothers and sisters. God gave us a brain in order for us to use it. Not every minute detail is contained in the word of God. Common sense must be used when reading it. But God did make sure to tell us that Adam and Eve had more children than Cain, Able, and Seth. Here goes the scripture:

"When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died. " Genesis 5:3-4

3. After the Thousands of years of human civilization and sin working it's destructive effects on humanity, procreating with family members will of course show why God gave a law against it. But prior to Moses receiving the law on Mt. Sinai, God gave no laws against marrying family members. The command God gave man at the beginning of creation was "to be fruitful and multiply." Therefore the destructive effects caused by incest were not prevalent at that time because the mutant genes that we see today, were not around 5,000-6,000 years ago.

 
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hiphop12345;5139234 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5139220 said:
RodrigueZz;5138380 said:
Atheism does seem to be picking up momentum and there are more people who are questioning religion which is awesome

I just hope those who are turning away from religion aren't doing so mindlessly like those who turn towards religion. A sheep is a sheep - regardless of religious belief.

Turning away from the faith is one of the major signs of the end of the age. Thus when the antichrist makes his appearance as god, the world will be shocked into believing that there really is a "god". And most of the citizens of the world will be lining up, like cows line up for the slaughter house, to receive the mark of the beast.

You reap what you sow. You sow godlessness, you'll reap godlessness. And the world will get what they always wanted during the tribulation period, a world ruled by godlessness. The antichrist is going to make Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Pol Pot, Ivan the terrible, and Genghis Khan look like choir boys compared to the carnage and destruction that he will bring when he rules. If the tribulation period did not end at Gods appointed time this is what He said would happen:



"And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."
Mark 13:20

Are you threatening motherfuckas?

Just prophesying what Thus saith the LORD. Amen.

 
thesiah91;5139259 said:
thesiah91;5139259 said:
hiphop12345;5139205 said:
blackamerica;5137865 said:
Turfaholic;5136086 said:
The big bang theory n evolution are more accurate than the bible. How many niggas u seen die and rise again lol

Wait a minute. The big bang theory predicted microchip implants? Did it predict dead animals mysteriously dropping dead? Everything going on today from gays, natural disasters, wars, rumors of wars & plaques were seen coming thanks to the bible. True or false?

Big bang theory GTFOH my nigga

1. The Bible never predicted microchips

2. Dead animals are already dead so they can't drop dead.

3. Gays been around since humanity has.

4.Natural disaster were around before humans even existed.

5. Wow wars and rumor of wars? How out there was that prediction? I can't believe they were able to guess that.

1. He's talking about the mark of the beast and how it will be placed in the forehead or the hand and you will not be able to operate in society without it. From my knowledge this is probably the most legitimate argument as far as bible predictions goes. There are similarities there, but the bible is not the only religious text to speak on future occurrences.

Ok so out of the thousands of failed or general prophecy, lets focus on the one that kind of but not quite line up? Anybody here have chips installed in they body? Also if the chip is in the foot or left ear does that rule out the forehead prophecy? What if the chip is named or it's serialized as 485 instead of 666 does that rule out Armageddon?

 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;5139270 said:
Gen. Stasia;5138499 said:
blackamerica;5138451 said:
[quote="DMTxCannabis;5138041Dude is delirious.. no Eddie Murphy..

Niggaz pick in choose what they respond 2 lol

Yall wanna discredit the bible but have YET to explain how someone could accurately predict current events from THOUSANDS of years ago w/ no technology.

Yall niggaz either trolls or insecure blame shifters. The big bang theory has too many holes to be taken seriously

Who discredits the bible? I think the bible has some truths told in a way that was encoded. Issue is that everyones interpretation is different. So its hard to choose which is which. But a lot gets lost in translation.

And religion has the most holes in it and that's only in Genesis.

"Let US make man in OUR Image"

Who the fuck is Us?

And when Cain left who was these other people he met up with?

And how retarded was the first off spring being that mating with family is proven to cause mental retardation?

1. "Let us make man in OUR image" declares the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

2. Cain had brothers and sisters. God gave us a brain in order for us to use it. Not every minute detail is contained in the word of God. Common sense must be used when reading it. But God did make sure to tell us that Adam and Eve had more children than Cain, Able, and Seth. Here goes the scripture:

"When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died. " Genesis 5:3-4

3. After the Thousands of years of human civilization and sin working it's destructive effects on humanity, procreating with family members will of course show why God gave a law against it. But prior to Moses receiving the law on Mt. Sinai, God gave no laws against marrying family members. The command God gave man at the beginning of creation was "to be fruitful and multiply." Therefore the destructive effects caused by incest were not prevalent at that time because the mutant genes that we see today, were not around 5,000-6,000 years ago.

All this sounds like Bullshit to me.

Why were the other children casted out? And wouldn't it say his Aunts and Uncles?

And I'm not talking LAW I'm talking genes. If I have a child with my brother its going to be retarded. The genes are too closely matched making it disfigured or mentally retarded. Forget Moses and his dusty ass Flinstone Essay.
 
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hiphop12345;5139205 said:
1. The Bible never predicted microchips

2. Dead animals are already dead so they can't drop dead.

3. Gays been around since humanity has.

4.Natural disaster were around before humans even existed.

5. Wow wars and rumor of wars? How out there was that prediction? I can't believe they were able to guess that.

No dumb nigga. An INCREASE of natural disasters, hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes etc..An INCREASE in wars. Animals die everyday but birds dropping from the sky in mass amounts? Especially on New years two years in a row? Those are things the big bang theory cant justify. Seas filled with blood. All these things are mysteriously occurring.

Not to mention the microchip thing. You say the bible never mentions this but it CLEARLY states this in revelations. Those are topics an atheist purposely run from. Especially on when the signs are visually everywhere. Yall niggaz playing w/ history

 
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