Should fully Hispanic Rappers be allowed to use the N word

[garv]

That's fine, but why the annoyance with someone who doesn't make that a part of their everyday life? With the criticism that some AA's launch at blacks from countries not the United States you'd think that being a black American is the end all, be all definition of being black...it's interesting that for as much as some black americans claim to hate America and it's ideals, the very things that many identify themselves by are distinctly American...not African influenced but American...yet in their minds if you're not black American somehow you're "less black"...shit I can remember some years back on the IC when PR rapper Tego Calerdon was on an MTV special and showed him hometown in PR and you had niggas on the IC going "Damn, there's Ricans that look like normal black people"...like what hte fuck is a normal black person?

Latin Americas aren't less black than African Americas, but maybe Black Americans feel this because of similar things to what have been said in this thread, many Afro Latinos aren't even aware of the African influence on their culture, many wouldn't even call themselves Black, theirs wrongs on both sides, but just take a look at this thread and compare a African American response(Gee) with the response of Rico Ens.

 

[blackrain]

Yeah yeah the same can be said for African Americans and peoples from Carribean countries like Jamaica. Hip-Hop, Soul, and all of the other genres can be linked to Africa in some way, i may have exaggerated but the premise of my argument is true, every African in the diaspora has somewhat lost bits of their culture.Don't sit here trying to act as if your more cultured than your fellow African American brother cause you speak Spanish and African Americans speak English, especially when some of you are blind to see the African influence on your culture, its also quite striking that a people with a lack of culture could produce more activists in line with their culture than you, in conferences in Unesco you had African Americans fighting to rewrite the false history perpetrated on them by European scholars, when Europeans were shitting on Africans on the continent, you had people like Malcolm x , John Henrik Clarke, Dr Ben promoting Pan-African ideals, before that the likes of Marcus Garvey and W.E.B Du Bois, where were your leaders when all this was happening, for a peoples with little culture African Americans sure have produced a lot of brothers who are less oblivious to their original cultures.

If you did some research you would actually get the answer to your question and realize much of what you just said isn't factual at all...hell Noriega's run in Panama was so strong initially partially due to the fact that he had much of the black vote behind him...but part of the reason why this opinion about latin america is as skewed as it is is because unlike in America, while your race is an identifying factor, it hasn't been manipulated to be the ONLY identifying factor for blacks as it was turned into in the US...peep those PBS specials and listen to those scholars explain how in much of latin America the mixing of cultures was encouraged at a certain point...so yes race is important in Latin America, but class trumps that shit...and that's what many of the revolutions in latin america have been based on...class based not race based

 

[DMTxTHC]

Garv is dropping a lot of truth in this thread...there's a lot of good responses all around too though.

 

[blackrain]

Latin Americas aren't less black than African Americas, but maybe Black Americans feel this because of similar things to what have been said in this thread, many Afro Latinos aren't even aware of the African influence on their culture, many wouldn't even call themselves Black, theirs wrongs on both sides, but just take a look at this thread and compare a African American response(Gee) with the response of Rico Ens.

very, very false...and there's no denial of being black...there's denial of being black American...i've told people before "I'm not balck american" and their response is "So you're saying you aren't black" as if black only means being black American...there's plenty of African-American's that don't like being called African-American...are they "not aware of their African ancestry" too? If you are latino there's no way you can deny the African influence in the culture because it's the basis for too much in the culture...the music, the dialects, the food, even down to the interpretation of Catholicism in much of Latin America of how many pray to individual saints much like Africans prayed to individual dieties in their original religions when they were captured and forced to take on Christianity...there's so much there that is plain to see and much more that's not hard to research....

 

[C.Melendez]

Latin Americas aren't less black than African Americas, but maybe Black Americans feel this because of similar things to what have been said in this thread, many Afro Latinos aren't even aware of the African influence on their culture, many wouldn't even call themselves Black, theirs wrongs on both sides, but just take a look at this thread and compare a African American response(Gee) with the response of Rico Ens.

check this vid out.....Garv and whoever else......this isn't from spain or native tainos ......but its good that some of u guys asks questions ...b/c media has filled alot of people heads with bs about latin countries......but again the biggest things most people jump on is that we deny our heritage..which is false.

 

[gee757]

Lol I have straight up African blood while you a 32 year old white dude living behind Wendys that thinks typing like a 13 year old chick would text her friends is a fun way to troll.

Smartenupgee

Your friend IT otherwise known as ShadyTeam could put on a cape and come in on some Tarzan shit and her dumb ass still wouldn't hide the fact you are the dumbest wanna be nigga on this forum.

You know it i know it Shencos Father alias knows it.

cracka stfu u aint foolin nobody & that white boy shit is play;d out ive been on this site since 08 u cant run da TRUTH off cracka cuz im BLK ive even spoken 2 REAL AFRICANZ from AFRICA on herr so dont play ya self cracka & dretox is really a female ive seen a proof pik now who can vouch fa u CRACKA?

That's fine, but why the annoyance with someone who doesn't make that a part of their everyday life? With the criticism that some AA's launch at blacks from countries not the United States you'd think that being a black American is the end all, be all definition of being black...it's interesting that for as much as some black americans claim to hate America and it's ideals, the very things that many identify themselves by are distinctly American...not African influenced but American...yet in their minds if you're not black American somehow you're "less black"...shit I can remember some years back on the IC when PR rapper Tego Calerdon was on an MTV special and showed him hometown in PR and you had niggas on the IC going "Damn, there's Ricans that look like normal black people"...like what hte fuck is a normal black person?

u r rite i know fa a fact that da blkz n da carribean islandz, s. & c. emerica know mo about african culture then blk/african emericanz..,.,.us blkz that made it 2 n. emerica as slavez was stripp;d of everythang african basically we use 2 get beat fa tryna act like we could speak, read & write durin slavery smh.,.

i think on the 2nd or 3rd page...it's a link to the OBS sp ecial Black in Latin America I think the DR episode...d specials on Mexico, DR, Cuba, and another country I can't remember right now

those specialz make white wash;d dominicanz like nycest & rico & racist mexicanz look foolish h8n on blkz when they got a blk grandma hidden n da closet like n all latin countriez lol

Your statistics are incorrect.

only about 73% of DR is mulatto, 11% is african, and about 16% is european.

Why do black people say a word they don't want anybody else using?

i got those numberz off that dominican haiti pbs special,,,& blk people can say nigga all we want just cuz we say it it dont give a OUTSIDER da rite 2 say it 2 wat is so hard 2 understand about that?

 

[a_list]

when you're dealing with different nationalities you will notice shyt.....some jamaicans get offeneded if mistaken for hatian, some pr get offeneded if mistaken for being dr, so you really have to deal with people on individual basis....I knw all of us arent holding hands singing we are the world but for the most part from what i've seen no african american hates hispanics for being hispanic and vice versa....like i stated i kno plenty hispanics and its always been cool unless there were personal beefs....

 

[DMTxTHC]

Your statistics are incorrect.
only about 73% of DR is mulatto, 11% is african, and about 16% is european.

Why do black people say a word they don't want anybody else using?

Lol, Gee said 90%, and 73%+11% is 84% which is pretty close

And there is no one concrete reason why us Blacks that say the N word say the N word.

I personally feel that the N Word isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so i rather say a variant of that word as a positive term among other people of color.

 

[rico_ENS]

Man stop being silly, the way African Americans wear there clothes(Sagging for example), the way they dress has been intimidated in nearly every part of the world.

And its more than sales bruh, while Hip-Hop(or rap should i say) is not the biggest selling genre its influence has transcended past just sales you remember only one side of the culture pertains sales things such as Graffitti Breaking Djing are also elements in this culture we call Hip-Hop. Thats why i described it as a culture, Grafitti can be seen in ever part of the world, every railway, every street corner you can see the influence of Hip-Hop. The way peoples talk has been affected hugely by slang connected to Hip-Hop, thats why you can be on a message board like this that consists of people from Africa, Europe and South America who will still understand the slang used, don't act like you can't see it to black youth and youth in the world in general Hip-Hop as a culture has been a massive influence.

nigga y u actin like latinos didnt help create this hip hop shit too plus the best breakers and graffiti artist are spanish my du so try again....n just cuz i aint blue black like u dnt mean i cant use the word, bitch ass nigga.....

 

[garv]

nigga y u actin like latinos didnt help create this hip hop shit too plus the best breakers and graffiti artist are spanish my du so try again....n just cuz i aint blue black like u dnt mean i cant use the word, bitch ass nigga.....

Shut the fuck up cracker, Hip-Hop is an African American artform, while peoples from the Carribean and Latin America contributed to it most of the original pioneers were African Americans, in 3 of its main elements.

 

[garv]

By saying it you give anyone all the right to say it. Isn't equality the goal? How the fuck are you attaining it with "special words" only you can say.

U don't see jews calling each other kykes, or homosexuals calling each other faggots. Black Americans are the only ones who wish to degrade themselves and demand that they only be degraded by other minorities.

You have a point i don't even use the word 'nigga' too tough, saying that i gives passes to my brothers who use the word, passes that i wouldn't give to no cracker.

 

[gee757]

Lol, Gee said 90%, and 73%+11% is 84% which is pretty close

And there is no one concrete reason why us Blacks that say the N word say the N word.

I personally feel that the N Word isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so i rather say a variant of that word as a positive term among other people of color.

yeah

nigga y u actin like latinos didnt help create this hip hop shit too plus the best breakers and graffiti artist are spanish my du so try again....n just cuz i aint blue black like u dnt mean i cant use the word, bitch ass nigga.....

lol@ this cracka dominican talkin about 'blu blk'...

By saying it you give anyone all the right to say it. Isn't equality the goal? How the fuck are you attaining it with "special words" only you can say.

U don't see jews calling each other kykes, or homosexuals calling each other faggots. Black Americans are the only ones who wish to degrade themselves and demand that they only be degraded by other minorities.

us BLK EMERICANZ r da 1z that had 2 b call that shit fa 500 yrz so let us have our own shit & flip it n2 a positive if outsiderz wanna say nigga they can say it but that shit is gonna b @ they own risk,.,.

 

[Ishi]

cracka stfu u aint foolin nobody & that white boy shit is play;d out ive been on this site since 08 u cant run da TRUTH off cracka cuz im BLK ive even spoken 2 REAL AFRICANZ from AFRICA on herr so dont play ya self cracka & dretox is really a female ive seen a proof pik now who can vouch fa u CRACKA?

Lol been here since 08 huh? That is why no one takes you serious you have a long record of being a dumbass

I don't think your black to tell you the truth i don't care the shit you type proves all i need to know about you.

You like to use the word "Cracka" when confronted with your whackness your fond of using "Housenigga" like its the word of the day on some Pee Wee Herman shit and you also like to make as little sense as possible in your posts.

That sound about right?

 

[G Mack]

Your statistics are incorrect.
only about 73% of DR is mulatto, 11% is african, and about 16% is european.

I've actually been told by other Dominicans that the "black" population is much higher than reported, but do to various reasons a lot of the statistic are skewed......#justsayin

but dont get it fukked up i believe in unity and fully understanding other peoples culture, props to garv and blackrain yall came up with a lot good points........any of yall watch the pbs documentary about afr0-cubans?...it was really powerful.......but im gone to many people catching feelings in here

 

[gee757]

Lol been here since 08 huh? That is why no one takes you serious you have a long record of being a dumbass

I don't think your black to tell you the truth i don't care the shit you type proves all i need to know about you.

You like to use the word "Cracka" when confronted with your whackness your fond of using "Housenigga" like its the word of the day on some Pee Wee Herman shit and you also like to make as little sense as possible in your posts.

That sound about right?

i really dont give a damn wat a faceless cracka clown like U on herr has 2 say or feel about me & i already xplain'd y im typin CRACKA now cuz da lame pussy azz reason modz dont wanna ban these white boyz on herr typin NIGGA so imma type CRACKA fuk these feminem woodface lovin white boyz typin nigga!

 

[Ishi]

Wow gee great story now i understand why you type like Stevie Wonder.

 

[Lincoln]

No, I don't think anybody should use the word at all. It's incredibly disrespectful to our ancestors who were once slaves, and claiming you're still enslaved is a bunch of trash. Despite what you think, white people are not out to get you. I live in California, and I hear people of all races say "nigga," but one thing I've noticed is when a black person gets called "*******" I've seen white people get just as outraged as black people, and they stick up for them. Racism isn't tolerated in here.

Some Latinos do not acknowledge our mixed roots, for whatever reason, but some do. It varies from country to country. In parts of Mexico you're looked down upon for acknowledging African heritage, in other parts though, it is celebrated, and they have festivals and everything. In Panama and Argentina, race is acknowledged, but less of an issue. It seems that the more diverse a population is, the more open-minded it's people are.

 

[garv]

No, I don't think anybody should use the word at all. It's incredibly disrespectful to our ancestors who were once slaves, and claiming you're still enslaved is a bunch of trash. Despite what you think, white people are not out to get you. I live in California, and I hear people of all races say "nigga," but one thing I've noticed is when a black person gets called "*******" I've seen white people get just as outraged as black people, and they stick up for them. Racism isn't tolerated in here.

Some Latinos do not acknowledge our mixed roots, for whatever reason, but some do. It varies from country to country. In parts of Mexico you're looked down upon for acknowledging African heritage, in other parts though, it is celebrated, and they have festivals and everything. In Panama and Argentina, race is acknowledged, but less of an issue. It seems that the more diverse a population is, the more open-minded it's people are.

Bullshit!!!!!!!

 

[gee757]

No, I don't think anybody should use the word at all. It's incredibly disrespectful to our ancestors who were once slaves, and claiming you're still enslaved is a bunch of trash. Despite what you think, white people are not out to get you. I live in California, and I hear people of all races say "nigga," but one thing I've noticed is when a black person gets called "*******" I've seen white people get just as outraged as black people, and they stick up for them. Racism isn't tolerated in here.

Some Latinos do not acknowledge our mixed roots, for whatever reason, but some do. It varies from country to country. In parts of Mexico you're looked down upon for acknowledging African heritage, in other parts though, it is celebrated, and they have festivals and everything. In Panama and Argentina, race is acknowledged, but less of an issue. It seems that the more diverse a population is, the more open-minded it's people are.

yeah okkkay LICOLN...wherr is our 40 acrez & a MULE@? lol

You can't own a word. It isn't tangible.

if outsiderz wanna say nigga they can say it but that shit is gonna b @ they own risk,.,.

 

[gee757]

Outsiders are saying it, fool.

And they are getting away with it. Day in and out.

its only a matter of time before this taboo surrounding the word is gone completely. And you have Rap Music and the white owned media to thank for it.

i know that fool & ive slapp;d da shit outta a white boy 2 fa sayin it thatz y i said '@ YA OWN RISK'