Sarah Palin on Syria conflict: Let Allah sort it out

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I'm shocked to say this but I actually agree with Sarah Palin. America is an Orwellian police state now and we're looking stupid around the world supporting people with strong connections to Al Qaeda in Syria. America claims to want to take Al Qaeda out, so why are we giving weapons to closet Al Qaeda members?
 
Batman.;5934759 said:
This stupid bitch, the NSA surveillance has been going on since the Patriot Act.

True NSA illegal spying was going on for a long time but few people knew how bad NSA surveillance was until now. Few people thought the govt was reading emails and online records of ALL Americans until Snowden spoke out. Only now is the govt trying to cover its ass on how it is blatantly violating the 4th amendment every day.....its lost all credibility, as the NY Times said not long ago
 
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Essentially what she's saying is don't do anything until we get a white guy back in office. This is nothing new.

Also to the people saying don't intervene... that's what Clinton did during Rwanda and he still considers it the biggest regret of his presidency (and that's the guy responsible for NAFTA and letting bin Laden get away the first time).

Once people start getting gassed somebody has to do something.

I think the most surprising thing about this and something no one is mentioning is the transparency in this case. Usually we arm rebel groups and wage proxy wars in relative secrecy.
 
real talk tho I wanna smash Sarah Palin's crazy ass

I would love to flood her walls one time haha

but on a serious note we got no business trying to fuck around in Syria

we should just be monitoring the situation on the ground for intel purposes...........but we shouldn't be choosing sides by spending taxpayer dollars on weapons going to our supposed enemies

regardless of who wins, they aren't/won't be fans of America
 
Sneak Dissa;5936832 said:
Essentially what she's saying is don't do anything until we get a white guy back in office. This is nothing new.

Also to the people saying don't intervene... that's what Clinton did during Rwanda and he still considers it the biggest regret of his presidency (and that's the guy responsible for NAFTA and letting bin Laden get away the first time).

Once people start getting gassed somebody has to do something.

I think the most surprising thing about this and something no one is mentioning is the transparency in this case. Usually we arm rebel groups and wage proxy wars in relative secrecy.

LOL @ transparency tho........cause you got to be naive if you don't think we have special forces on the ground in Syria already

there's nothing transparent when we've already been fucking around in Syria on the low

Clinton claims Rwanda was a regret but he's just saying what people wanna hear............there were multiple opportunities for the US to get engaged in solving a crisis overseas.....however, Rwanda had nothing resource wise of interest to the US..........plus, niggaz in office were still shook cause of what happened in Somalia in '93

SMH @ Bush I at least being able to drum up a coalition before putting boots on the ground
 
Sneak Dissa;5936832 said:
Essentially what she's saying is don't do anything until we get a white guy back in office. This is nothing new.

Also to the people saying don't intervene... that's what Clinton did during Rwanda and he still considers it the biggest regret of his presidency (and that's the guy responsible for NAFTA and letting bin Laden get away the first time).

Once people start getting gassed somebody has to do something.

I think the most surprising thing about this and something no one is mentioning is the transparency in this case. Usually we arm rebel groups and wage proxy wars in relative secrecy.

Yeah but intervening in the Middle East lately does not work out for America. We're too hated over there for us to make much of a difference, look at Libya. We "helped" the rebels out and some months later our embassy gets burnt to the ground there by people with connections to Al-Qaeda. In fact, many of the rebels in Libya who took out Gaddafi had connections to Al-Qaeda, LOL.....

Many of these Syrians have connects to Al Qaeda as well, these are the people you wana fund? America supports Al-Qaeda now?
 
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blakfyahking;5937729 said:
real talk tho I wanna smash Sarah Palin's crazy ass

I would love to flood her walls one time haha

but on a serious note we got no business trying to fuck around in Syria

we should just be monitoring the situation on the ground for intel purposes...........but we shouldn't be choosing sides by spending taxpayer dollars on weapons going to our supposed enemies

regardless of who wins, they aren't/won't be fans of America

Exactly, we helped rebels out in Afghanistan back in the 80s and many of those same people later became members of Al-Qaeda, including Bin Laden. Until America stops being blatantly biased towards the apartheid state of Israel, people there will smile and accept American money, while secretly plotting to kill Americans once the weapons are received. It seems American politicians never learn a fucking lesson.
 
Since Obama likes to spy on computers and phones (we all got Obama phones now), I hope Obama sees this footage of Syrian rebel teens pledging allegiance to Al-Qaeda while openly stating how proud they are America was attacked on 9/11
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/syr...a-camp-we-destroyed-america-civilian-airplane

(CNSNews.com) - An al Qaeda video posted online in late May and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) shows masked Muslim teenage boys undergoing military training and indoctrination at an al Qaeda camp inside Syria.

The video shows the teenagers shooting handguns at a large photo of Syrian leader Bashar al-Asad. It also shows them stating that their leader is Abu Bakr al Baghdadi (the head of al Qaeda in Iraq), and then singing joyfully of their desire to overthrow both Asad and his sister Bushra, of the valor of al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri and of al Qaeda’s success in blowing up the World Trade Center towers.

"We destroyed America with a civilian airplane,” the young Syrian rebels sing. “The World Trade Center was turned into rubble. The World Trade Center was turned into rubble.

--And I'm supposed to be a fan of American govt now? Next time Obama talks about how much he wants to destroy Al-Qaeda I'm gona throw my TV out the window or shoot it

 
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goddamnit people, stop encouraging Palin

kingblaze84;5938183 said:
look at Libya. We "helped" the rebels out and some months later our embassy gets burnt to the ground there by people with connections to Al-Qaeda.
the problem with your theory here remains that you're basically saying we LITERALLY helped the people who burned the embassy down. this is not likely true as claimed

kingblaze84;5938195 said:
Exactly, we helped rebels out in Afghanistan back in the 80s and many of those same people later became members of Al-Qaeda, including Bin Laden.
false. at best it's an oversimplification; at worst, it's straight-up false, because Bin Laden is NOT one of the people we helped out back in the 1980s. he did not need and did not get funded by the US. and, of course, the whole mess is far more complicated, blah blah blah

 
janklow;5938753 said:
goddamnit people, stop encouraging Palin

kingblaze84;5938183 said:
look at Libya. We "helped" the rebels out and some months later our embassy gets burnt to the ground there by people with connections to Al-Qaeda.
the problem with your theory here remains that you're basically saying we LITERALLY helped the people who burned the embassy down. this is not likely true as claimed

kingblaze84;5938195 said:
Exactly, we helped rebels out in Afghanistan back in the 80s and many of those same people later became members of Al-Qaeda, including Bin Laden.
false. at best it's an oversimplification; at worst, it's straight-up false, because Bin Laden is NOT one of the people we helped out back in the 1980s. he did not need and did not get funded by the US. and, of course, the whole mess is far more complicated, blah blah blah

If the rebels of Libya did not help burn down the embassy, then they have done a horrible job of finding and prosecuting the people that did it. After all this time, how come the Libyans still haven't caught them, despite all the surveillance and drones in the area? It's obvious the rebels of Libya have not been the most friendly to us, where was the protection for the Libyan embassy?????? With all the weapons America gave those (Al-Qaeda linked) rebels, they sure did a horrible job protecting the embassy. Hmm, I wonder why....oh and did I mention the rebels had links to Al-Qaeda? LOL....

As far as the rebels fighting against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80s, you are clearly fooling yourself if you're gona say many of them did not eventually become members of Al Qaeda. The CIA gave tons of money to the mujahadeen in the 80s, and many of the rebels fighting against the Soviets helped use that money to create Al-Qaeda. Read this link.....
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/20/the-cias-founding-of-al-qaeda-documented/

Below is our translation of an interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski. It is important for three reasons. First, it flatly contradicts the official US justification for giving billions of dollars to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s, namely that the US and Saudi Arabia were defending so-called freedom fighters against Soviet aggression.

“Not so,” says Brzezinski. He confirms what opponents have charged: that the US began covert sponsorship of Muslim extremists five months *before* the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. He says that after President Carter authorized the covert action: “I explained to the president that this support would in my opinion lead to a military intervention by the Soviets.” Second, the interview is instructive concerning so-called “conspiracy theory.” To be sure, there are plenty of nutty theories out there. And of course, there are plenty of just plain wrong theories.

But as Brzezinski demonstrates, the US foreign policy establishment did, for want of a better word, conspire. Even as they claimed to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly fomented it *as a weapon of policy.* And they lied about what they were doing, pretending they were helping freedom fighters resist an invasion. In other words, deceit on two levels.

One must ask oneself: if the US foreign policy Establishment used Muslim extremism as a weapon once, how can one argue *in principle* that they would not use it again? We say they *have* used it again; that they have used it continuously; and that we are seeing the fruits of this policy. Most recently we have seen the real essence of the Brzezinski doctrine in the horrendous events this past week in Russia (culminating in the school attack) and Israel (the double bus bombing).

Brzezinski and his protégé, Zalmay Khalilzad, set up a corporation in 1985, funded by the US congress, to train the mujahedeen to sell reporters the lie that the mujahedeen were freedom fighters and victims of aggression (Associated Press)

 
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Them niggas in Syria are wiling out...we need to jump in. They got like 50 lil niggas with pistolsnober there.running the town. They are merking and and raping women and children
 
Janklow and anyone else in denial about the billions the CIA gave rebels in Afghanistan in the 80s, read this. Perhaps Janklow, you will stop living in LALA denial land and realize that the CIA helped fund Bin Laden and his buddies in the 80s.
http://newsone.com/1205745/cia-osama-bin-laden-al-qaeda/

How The CIA Helped Create Osama Bin Laden

May 2, 2011

By Casey Gane-McCalla

During in the 1970s, when the Russia was the biggest threat to America and radical Islam was not as a concern of the USA’s, the USA began funding and training Islamic militants to fight our Russian enemies in Afghanistan.

These militants, known as the mujahideen would rebel the Russians out of Afghanistan and later become the Taliban, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

One of the most prominent members of he mujahideen was a wealthy son of a Saudi Arabian businessman named Osama Bin Laden.


National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski visited Afganistan in 1979 and met with Bin Laden and even took a picture with him. Brzezinski would tell the mujahideen

We know of their deep belief in God, and we are confident their struggle will succeed. That land over there is yours, you’ll go back to it one day because your fight will prevail, and you’ll have your homes and your mosques back again. Because your cause is right and God is on your side.


Former British Foreign secretary, Robin Cook said:

Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

Several other authors, journalists and statesmen have all made the claim that Bin Laden was funded, armed and trained by the CIA to fight off the Russians.

After Ronald Reagan was elected in 1981, U.S. funding of the mujahideen increased significantly and CIA Paramilitary Officers played a big role in training, arming and sometimes even leading mujahideen forces.

The CIA trained the mujahideen in many of the tactics Al Qaeda is known for today, such as car bombs, assassinations and other acts that would be considered terrorism today.

 
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evoljeanyes;5938949 said:
Them niggas in Syria are wiling out...we need to jump in. They got like 50 lil niggas with pistolsnober there.running the town. They are merking and and raping women and children

You talking about the rebels? The ones killing and murdering people because they're not Muslim right?
 
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