Sarah Palin on Syria conflict: Let Allah sort it out

[SneakDZA]

Essentially what she's saying is don't do anything until we get a white guy back in office. This is nothing new.

Also to the people saying don't intervene... that's what Clinton did during Rwanda and he still considers it the biggest regret of his presidency (and that's the guy responsible for NAFTA and letting bin Laden get away the first time).

Once people start getting gassed somebody has to do something.

I think the most surprising thing about this and something no one is mentioning is the transparency in this case. Usually we arm rebel groups and wage proxy wars in relative secrecy.

Yeah but intervening in the Middle East lately does not work out for America. We're too hated over there for us to make much of a difference, look at Libya. We "helped" the rebels out and some months later our embassy gets burnt to the ground there by people with connections to Al-Qaeda. In fact, many of the rebels in Libya who took out Gaddafi had connections to Al-Qaeda, LOL.....

Many of these Syrians have connects to Al Qaeda as well, these are the people you wana fund? America supports Al-Qaeda now?

Don't get me wrong... I agree that this is particularly stupid especially given our history with the blowback from engaging in these situations. I only have two real points... when regular people are being mass-murdered by their government - especially by way of chemical weapons - someone should do something about it. With that said, I'm not under any illusions that our engagement in this particular instance has anything to do with altruism.

My other point is simply that we shouldn't parse Sarah Palin's words; what she said she said very clearly (surprisingly enough)...

I say until we know what we’re doing, until we have a commander and chief who knows what he’s doing, well, let these radical Islamic countries who aren’t even respecting basic human rights, where both sides are slaughtering each other as they scream over an arbitrary red line, “Allah Akbar,” I say until we have someone who knows what they’re doing, I say let Allah sort it out,’

She agrees that basic human rights are being violated and while I'd like to interpret her invocation of Allah as her implying that it doesn't really matter since they're Muslim people being slaughtered I won't do that - but she does clearly say that we should do nothing simply because Obama is president. Notice she gives absolutely no opinion about his policy in this regard because she has none... if Bush did the same thing she'd agree with it. Also let's not pretend that if Obama did nothing she'd attempt to call him out for that as well.

In short, regardless of what you feel about US intervention in Syria... that's not what she was talking about... what she was talking about was "let's not let this guy do anything major while he's in office" which has essentially been the approach of congress since he was elected.

 

[kingblaze84]

Essentially what she's saying is don't do anything until we get a white guy back in office. This is nothing new.

Also to the people saying don't intervene... that's what Clinton did during Rwanda and he still considers it the biggest regret of his presidency (and that's the guy responsible for NAFTA and letting bin Laden get away the first time).

Once people start getting gassed somebody has to do something.

I think the most surprising thing about this and something no one is mentioning is the transparency in this case. Usually we arm rebel groups and wage proxy wars in relative secrecy.

Yeah but intervening in the Middle East lately does not work out for America. We're too hated over there for us to make much of a difference, look at Libya. We "helped" the rebels out and some months later our embassy gets burnt to the ground there by people with connections to Al-Qaeda. In fact, many of the rebels in Libya who took out Gaddafi had connections to Al-Qaeda, LOL.....

Many of these Syrians have connects to Al Qaeda as well, these are the people you wana fund? America supports Al-Qaeda now?

Don't get me wrong... I agree that this is particularly stupid especially given our history with the blowback from engaging in these situations. I only have two real points... when regular people are being mass-murdered by their government - especially by way of chemical weapons - someone should do something about it. With that said, I'm not under any illusions that our engagement in this particular instance has anything to do with altruism.

My other point is simply that we shouldn't parse Sarah Palin's words; what she said she said very clearly (surprisingly enough)...

I say until we know what we’re doing, until we have a commander and chief who knows what he’s doing, well, let these radical Islamic countries who aren’t even respecting basic human rights, where both sides are slaughtering each other as they scream over an arbitrary red line, “Allah Akbar,” I say until we have someone who knows what they’re doing, I say let Allah sort it out,’

She agrees that basic human rights are being violated and while I'd like to interpret her invocation of Allah as her implying that it doesn't really matter since they're Muslim people being slaughtered I won't do that - but she does clearly say that we should do nothing simply because Obama is president. Notice she gives absolutely no opinion about his policy in this regard because she has none... if Bush did the same thing she'd agree with it. Also let's not pretend that if Obama did nothing she'd attempt to call him out for that as well.

In short, regardless of what you feel about US intervention in Syria... that's not what she was talking about... what she was talking about was "let's not let this guy do anything major while he's in office" which has essentially been the approach of congress since he was elected.

Even if Sarah is saying what she's saying for political reasons, she's still saying the right thing overall, let Allah sort it out. Sunnis and Shiites have been fighting for centuries, and Assad AND the rebels have been using cruel methods to kill and torture each other. If you wana give weapons to closet members of Al-Qaeda, that's on your conscience. Considering what happened in Afghanistan in the 80s (funding future terrorists) and what a disaster Iraq and Afghanistan still are, we gota leave that part of the world alone. Let another fucking country take care of this, Americans need help here right now. Govt programs are being cut and meanwhile, we're playing captain save Al-Qaeda in Syria. FOH

 

[janklow]

If the rebels of Libya did not help burn down the embassy, then they have done a horrible job of finding and prosecuting the people that did it. After all this time, how come the Libyans still haven't caught them, despite all the surveillance and drones in the area?

first off, i don't know why you keep talking about the "rebels of Libya" as if they're one group of identical people. they all, to a man, joined hands and burned down the embassy? of course not.

oh and did I mention the rebels had links to Al-Qaeda?

of course you did, because you're heavily invested in oversimplifying it.

As far as the rebels fighting against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80s, you are clearly fooling yourself if you're gona say many of them did not eventually become members of Al Qaeda.

is THAT what i said? or did i say the following: "false. at best it's an oversimplification; at worst, it's straight-up false, because Bin Laden is NOT one of the people we helped out back in the 1980s. he did not need and did not get funded by the US. and, of course, the whole mess is far more complicated, blah blah blah." because on this topic you do not read and you do not debate, you recite your talking points over and over.

Janklow and anyone else in denial about the billions the CIA gave rebels in Afghanistan in the 80s, read this. Perhaps Janklow, you will stop living in LALA denial land and realize that the CIA helped fund Bin Laden and his buddies in the 80s.

again, you don't have a real debate, so you fall back to these one-size-fits-all remarks and a little shittalking. again, did i say we did not give anyone money? well, again, since you don't want to debate the topic, a large portion of what we gave was given to the ISI to funnel as they saw fit. the guys closest to the Taliban/al-Qaeda types you're talking about are the guys Pakistan liked and promoted for their personal reasons. and specific other amounts not running through the ISI didn't go to Bin Laden BECAUSE HE DID NOT NEED IT AND DID NOT WANT IT.

short version: if you're talking about how the "CIA created al-Qaeda" and you're NOT talking about groups like the ISI also having their favored guys in the mix, you're not really talking about this, you're pushing some agenda.

you keep the NewsOne article and i'll stick with the guys winning Pulitzers covering the topic, okay?

 

[kingblaze84]

Janklow, Brezinsky, a former head official in American govt IS ON RECORD as saying the CIA gave money to future members of Al-Qaeda. HE SAID HIMSELF HE MET WITH BIN LADEN IN 1979....That's not someone who works at just lil ole Newsone....a news magazine that is actually very respected. Ignore evidence at your own peril and ignorance, but I am showing you evidence of what I'm saying....and meanwhile, the world will know more then you on this subject, unfortunately....and yes I know Pakistan was involved as well. But Pakistan is known for its closet support of Al Qaeda in many parts of the country, even in govt so that shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[mc317]

Anchor: Sarah Palin in 1987, when she presented a sports show on local TV and met the basketball star, who she is said to have spent the night with

Rice was a junior at Michigan playing in a college basketball tournament in Alaska.

At the time, Palin was known as Sarah Heath and was a sports reporter for the Anchorage television station KTUU-TV.

In Janet Maslin's review for the New York Times, she wrote: 'While Mr Rice avoids specifics and uses the words "respectful" and "a sweetheart," Mr McGinniss eggs him on with the kind of flagrantly leading question he seems to have habitually asked.

'In Mr. Rice's case: "So you never had the feeling she felt bad about having sex with a black guy?"'

The alleged affair happened just nine months before she would elope, pregnant, with her husband Todd.

With her unruly mullet and a stuttering style, the young anchorwoman, who would have been just 24 at the time, looks a far cry from the polished and controlled 'hockey mom' who would run for vice president two decades later.

The new book also claims Mrs Palin had a six month affair with one of her husband's colleagues while they were married, as well as snorting cocaine off a 55 gallon oil drum and separately smoking marijuana in secret liaisons with one of her college professors.

The revelations, which have shocked America, could strike a devastating blow to the controversial politician's hopes of joining the 2012 presidential race.

The book is written by Joe McGinniss, an author who moved in next door to the Palins in Alaska to dig dirt for his salacious biography.

In response, Todd Palin last night slammed the author as a 'stalker' who has a 'creepy obsession' with Mrs Palin.

Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-respectful-says-NBA-star.html#ixzz2Wg9gYIcA

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[mc317]

Sarah palin stuffs cocks at will, end transmission

 

[janklow]

Janklow, Brezinsky, a former head official in American govt IS ON RECORD as saying the CIA gave money to future members of Al-Qaeda.

...which, in turn, does not actually contradict what i said above. this is what i am talking about when i say you're NOT ACTUALLY READING MY POSTS.

HE SAID HIMSELF HE MET WITH BIN LADEN IN 1979...

somehow i suspect there's also a degree of willfully remembering what we want to there.

That's not someone who works at just lil ole Newsone....a news magazine that is actually very respected. Ignore evidence at your own peril and ignorance-

no, what i am doing is siding with my sources over yours. don't bring the stereotypical "DO RESEARCH" nonsense into the debate.

...and yes I know Pakistan was involved as well. But Pakistan is known for its closet support of Al Qaeda in many parts of the country, even in govt so that shouldn't be a surprise.

on the other hand, you literally NEVER mention Pakistan while simplifying down to "THE CIA ARMED BIN LADEN." which is entirely the point: if you're not discussing it as a complicated situation with people and countries working at cross-purposes, you're not really discussing it.

 

[kingblaze84]

Janklow, Brezinsky, a former head official in American govt IS ON RECORD as saying the CIA gave money to future members of Al-Qaeda.

...which, in turn, does not actually contradict what i said above. this is what i am talking about when i say you're NOT ACTUALLY READING MY POSTS.

HE SAID HIMSELF HE MET WITH BIN LADEN IN 1979...

somehow i suspect there's also a degree of willfully remembering what we want to there.

That's not someone who works at just lil ole Newsone....a news magazine that is actually very respected. Ignore evidence at your own peril and ignorance-

no, what i am doing is siding with my sources over yours. don't bring the stereotypical "DO RESEARCH" nonsense into the debate.

...and yes I know Pakistan was involved as well. But Pakistan is known for its closet support of Al Qaeda in many parts of the country, even in govt so that shouldn't be a surprise.

on the other hand, you literally NEVER mention Pakistan while simplifying down to "THE CIA ARMED BIN LADEN." which is entirely the point: if you're not discussing it as a complicated situation with people and countries working at cross-purposes, you're not really discussing it.

If you wana take your sources over mine that's fine. The evidence is clear as daylight that America and Pakistan and likely other nations gave billions to future members of Al-Qaeda back in the 80s, when the then mujahadeen fought the Soviets, many of whom later became founding members of Al-Qaeda. It was a complicated situation but it doesn't change the fact Bin Laden did get help from the CIA back in the day, directly and indirectly. The evidence is clear as day in books and online sources anytime you want to read it. Everything else is going in circles.

Here's another source proving what I am saying.....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225

In mid-1979, about the same time as the Soviet Union deployed troops

into Afghanistan, the United States began giving several hundred million

dollars a year in aid to the Afghan Mujahideen insurgents fighting the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan and the Soviet Army in Operation Cyclone. Along with native Afghan mujahideen were Muslim volunteers from other countries, popularly known as Afghan Arabs.

The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden,known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs.

As the war neared its end, bin Laden organized the al-Qaeda organization to carry on armed jihad in other venues, primarily against the United States — the country that had helped fund the mujahideen against the Soviets.



The BBC, in an article published shortly after the 9/11 attacks,

stated that bin Laden "received security training from the CIA itself,

according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian."[1]

Read more athttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225#9YbcAOXFczQHGKU1.99

 

[kingblaze84]

Continued.....

In a 2006 InDepth piece on Osama Bin Laden, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation published that,[4]

Bin Laden apparently received training from the CIA, which was

backing the Afghan holy warriors – the mujahedeen – who were tying down

Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

An article in Der Spiegel,in 2007, entitled "Arming the Middle East",

Siegesmund von Ilsemann called Bin Laden "one of the CIA's best weapons customers." [5]

According to author Steve Coll,

Overall, the U.S. government looked favorably on the Arab recruitment

drives. ... Some of the most ardent cold warriors at [CIA headquarters

at] Langley thought this program should be formally endorsed and

extended. ... [T]he CIA "examined ways to increase their participation,

perhaps in the form of some sort of international brigade" ... Robert

Gates [then-head of the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence] recalled. ...

At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan.[6]

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, and Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council from 2001–2003, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies.Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan."[7]

Read more athttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225#9YbcAOXFczQHGKU1.99

 

[kingblaze84]

How many sources you want me to bring up Janklow? Continue choosing your sources over mine, me and the rest of the world will continue to not be in denial. American govt is as crooked and corrupt as it was back in the 80s, Obama is being a fucking idiot funding these Syrian rebels. It takes a real dummy to make Sarah Palin look smart.

 

[loch121]

That's how her husband feels about her pussy lips

 

[janklow]

If you wana take your sources over mine that's fine.

yeah, i am cool with taking my sources over yours. i think we covered this already?

The evidence is clear as daylight that America and Pakistan and likely other nations gave billions to future members of Al-Qaeda back in the 80s, when the then mujahadeen fought the Soviets, many of whom later became founding members of Al-Qaeda.

it's not clear as daylight that AMERICA gave billions to founding members of Al-Qaeda. maybe you should start by naming them beyond Bin Laden.

-but it doesn't change the fact Bin Laden did get help from the CIA back in the day, directly and indirectly. The evidence is clear as day in books and online sources anytime you want to read it.

yeah, again, i HAVE read up on this. it's not "clear as day" that Bin Laden got help from the CIA. in fact, in attempting to claim this, you said the following:

"The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden,known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs."

did you actually read your own source? because Bin Laden being a wealthy Saudi who provided HIS OWN MONEY as well as millions from Gulf Arabs is exactly in line with what i have been saying to you.

further, you then went on to this:

"An article in Der Spiegel,in 2007, entitled "Arming the Middle East", Siegesmund von Ilsemann called Bin Laden "one of the CIA's best weapons customers." [5] According to author Steve Coll, Overall, the U.S. government looked favorably on the Arab recruitment drives. ... Some of the most ardent cold warriors at [CIA headquarters at] Langley thought this program should be formally endorsed and extended. ... [T]he CIA "examined ways to increase their participation, perhaps in the form of some sort of international brigade" ... Robert Gates [then-head of the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence] recalled. ... At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan.[6]

now, i guess i should make this clear: Steve Coll is a source i'm content to run with. and if you read HIS work on this topic --which you probably should since you're inadvertently quoting it-- you'd realize he doesn't actually agree with your article as they want you to believe. note the following from their quote from Coll:

"At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan"

...as in, Bin Laden put money into Afghanistan that the CIA did not. let me know when you want to read a book about this or something. or shit, when you want to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS.

and frankly, it's enough with this "me and the rest of the world" noise. learn to make your damn argument without pretending you have some phantom level of support for it. it doesn't lend credence to what you're actually saying.

 

[LUClEN]

I'm shocked to say this but I actually agree with Sarah Palin. America is an Orwellian police state now and we're looking stupid around the world supporting people with strong connections to Al Qaeda in Syria. America claims to want to take Al Qaeda out, so why are we giving weapons to closet Al Qaeda members?

Al Qaeda does not exist though.

 

[kingblaze84]

If you wana take your sources over mine that's fine.

yeah, i am cool with taking my sources over yours. i think we covered this already?

The evidence is clear as daylight that America and Pakistan and likely other nations gave billions to future members of Al-Qaeda back in the 80s, when the then mujahadeen fought the Soviets, many of whom later became founding members of Al-Qaeda.

it's not clear as daylight that AMERICA gave billions to founding members of Al-Qaeda. maybe you should start by naming them beyond Bin Laden.

-but it doesn't change the fact Bin Laden did get help from the CIA back in the day, directly and indirectly. The evidence is clear as day in books and online sources anytime you want to read it.

yeah, again, i HAVE read up on this. it's not "clear as day" that Bin Laden got help from the CIA. in fact, in attempting to claim this, you said the following:

"The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden,known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs."

did you actually read your own source? because Bin Laden being a wealthy Saudi who provided HIS OWN MONEY as well as millions from Gulf Arabs is exactly in line with what i have been saying to you.

further, you then went on to this:

"An article in Der Spiegel,in 2007, entitled "Arming the Middle East", Siegesmund von Ilsemann called Bin Laden "one of the CIA's best weapons customers." [5] According to author Steve Coll, Overall, the U.S. government looked favorably on the Arab recruitment drives. ... Some of the most ardent cold warriors at [CIA headquarters at] Langley thought this program should be formally endorsed and extended. ... [T]he CIA "examined ways to increase their participation, perhaps in the form of some sort of international brigade" ... Robert Gates [then-head of the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence] recalled. ... At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan.[6]

now, i guess i should make this clear: Steve Coll is a source i'm content to run with. and if you read HIS work on this topic --which you probably should since you're inadvertently quoting it-- you'd realize he doesn't actually agree with your article as they want you to believe. note the following from their quote from Coll:

"At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan"

...as in, Bin Laden put money into Afghanistan that the CIA did not. let me know when you want to read a book about this or something. or shit, when you want to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS.

and frankly, it's enough with this "me and the rest of the world" noise. learn to make your damn argument without pretending you have some phantom level of support for it. it doesn't lend credence to what you're actually saying.

Believe what you want Janklow. I have shown three different sources that show Bin Laden and future members of Al-Qaeda did receive aid from the CIA back in the 80s, along with future members of Al-Qaeda. Bin Laden did have lots of money himself true but the sources still show, including former high govt official Brezinski, who is often on MSNBC, that future members of Al Qaeda and other terror groups did receive direct and indirect funding from the crooked ass American govt. Read this again....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225

In mid-1979, about the same time as the Soviet Union deployed troops

into Afghanistan, the United States began giving several hundred million

dollars a year in aid to the Afghan Mujahideen insurgents fighting the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan and the Soviet Army in Operation Cyclone. Along with native Afghan mujahideen were Muslim volunteers from other countries, popularly known as Afghan Arabs.

The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden,known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs.

As the war neared its end, bin Laden organized the al-Qaeda organization to carry on armed jihad in other venues, primarily against the United States — the country that had helped fund the mujahideen against the Soviets.

The BBC, in an article published shortly after the 9/11 attacks,

stated that bin Laden "received security training from the CIA itself,

according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian."[1]

Read more athttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225#9YbcAOXFczQHGKU1.99

 

[kingblaze84]

And read this again.....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1325281225#9YbcAOXFczQHGKU1.99

In a 2006 InDepth piece on Osama Bin Laden, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation published that,[4]

Bin Laden apparently received training from the CIA, which was

backing the Afghan holy warriors – the mujahedeen – who were tying down

Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

 

[kingblaze84]

I'm shocked to say this but I actually agree with Sarah Palin. America is an Orwellian police state now and we're looking stupid around the world supporting people with strong connections to Al Qaeda in Syria. America claims to want to take Al Qaeda out, so why are we giving weapons to closet Al Qaeda members?

Al Qaeda does not exist though.

What about all those people worldwide who often pledge allegiance to Al Qaeda? Who are they really pledging allegiance to...?

 

[janklow]

Believe what you want Janklow. I have shown three different sources that show Bin Laden and future members of Al-Qaeda did receive aid from the CIA back in the 80s, along with future members of Al-Qaeda.

you literally have NOT shown Bin Laden did and the whole "future members of al-Qaeda" thing is either not being disputed (hence the part about you NOT READING MY POSTS) or involves you not being specific about these "future members of al-Qaeda."

your first source (Veterans Today) talks about the timing of the funding while making some ridiculous complaint about being "suppressed" by Google (which basically disqualifies them as a source IMO). it does not talk about Bin Laden at ALL. since no one is disputing that funding went from the US to mujahedeen, i don't understand what this article is supposed to prove if we're talking about how BIN LADEN got his funding.

your second source (NewsOne) notes that militants would later become "the Taliban, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood," which is weird because the Muslim Brotherhood LONG predates the conflicts in Afghanistan we're talking about. fine journalism there. at best it's still reliant on Cook's erroneous claim (backed by sources never named or quoted) and the fact that Brzezinski supposedly took a picture with him. of course, we're not seeing the picture.

your third source (LiveLeak) is, again, just quoting Cook and, as i already pointed out, erroneously citing Coll as if he agrees. in fact, since you're posting "read this again," why don't you read what i said about that article since you didn't read it the first time:

"in fact, in attempting to claim this, you said the following:

"The most famous of the Afghan Arabs was Osama bin Laden,known at the time as a wealthy and pious Saudi who provided his own money and helped raise millions from other wealthy Gulf Arabs."

did you actually read your own source? because Bin Laden being a wealthy Saudi who provided HIS OWN MONEY as well as millions from Gulf Arabs is exactly in line with what i have been saying to you.

further, you then went on to this:

"An article in Der Spiegel,in 2007, entitled "Arming the Middle East", Siegesmund von Ilsemann called Bin Laden "one of the CIA's best weapons customers." [5] According to author Steve Coll, Overall, the U.S. government looked favorably on the Arab recruitment drives. ... Some of the most ardent cold warriors at [CIA headquarters at] Langley thought this program should be formally endorsed and extended. ... [T]he CIA "examined ways to increase their participation, perhaps in the form of some sort of international brigade" ... Robert Gates [then-head of the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence] recalled. ... At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan.[6]

now, i guess i should make this clear: Steve Coll is a source i'm content to run with. and if you read HIS work on this topic --which you probably should since you're inadvertently quoting it-- you'd realize he doesn't actually agree with your article as they want you to believe. note the following from their quote from Coll:

"At the [CIA's] Islamabad station [station chief] Milt Bearden felt that bin Laden himself "actually did some very good things" by putting money into Afghanistan"

...as in, Bin Laden put money into Afghanistan that the CIA did not. let me know when you want to read a book about this or something. or shit, when you want to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS."

in fact, speaking of reading it again, how about YOU read your link again, click on the citation for that CBC claim, and read the Wikipedia article it links to. it mentions, among other things, better sources like Bergen and, again, Coll disagreeing with the argument that your single named source (Robin Cook) is advancing.

or whatever, keep posting the same thing you already did while ignoring what i am actually saying. because that's certainly working well. and it prevents you from having to read and respond to my actual posts instead of the phantom Opponent's Position that you're dreaming up.

 

[Black Boy King]

this dumb cracka actually has somewhat of a legitimate point

the US is wrong to get involved on any level

Yeah she said some dumb shyt but this was my first thought.

 

[Copper]

after allah sorts this shit out I hope he makes a trip to alaska

 

[kingblaze84]

Janklow, even if you want to ignore the source that says Bin Laden received training from the CIA, you're going to ignore the many sources that say the CIA funded future members of Al Qaeda? LOL really?