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[One Spliff]

so architecture is evil? what about the Israelite temples? are they evil too?

1. study mesopotamian mythology (sumer, babylo akkadin, assyria)...peep thier practices as well as thhe symbolism, its similar to anicent egypt, greece, rome...

2. then study the so called illuminati/elites and u'll see were they got all that symbolism from...

3. check out the vatican musem, and u'll see the same ancient symbology and statues from back then...then research the connection bewteen roman catholic paganism and hoe it all stemed from the ancient civilisations..god, mary, jesus..can all be interchangeble...hence why they worship the virgin mary, worhip on a sun-day, celbrate christmas etc...none of which cna be found in the bible, but can be found in ritutals/dietys that stem all the way back to sumer/babylon...n egypt/greece/rome...

3. read the bible, and see what it says about those ancient polytheistic religions, aswell as the powers that be back then and today...connect the dots, book of enoch is a good read, aswell as the book od daniel and book of kings...really just read the whole bible tho.

as for israelite temples...peep out the book of kings, and what happened to solomon when he was fuckin all them hoes back then...

 

[musicology1985]

1. study mesopotamian mythology (sumer, babylo akkadin, assyria)...peep thier practices as well as thhe symbolism, its similar to anicent egypt, greece, rome...

2. then study the so called illuminati/elites and u'll see were they got all that symbolism from...

3. check out the vatican musem, and u'll see the same ancient symbology and statues from back then...then research the connection bewteen roman catholic paganism and hoe it all stemed from the ancient civilisations..god, mary, jesus..can all be interchangeble...hence why they worship the virgin mary, worhip on a sun-day, celbrate christmas etc...none of which cna be found in the bible, but can be found in ritutals/dietys that stem all the way back to sumer/babylon...n egypt/greece/rome...

3. read the bible, and see what it says about those ancient polytheistic religions, aswell as the powers that be back then and today...connect the dots, book of enoch is a good read, aswell as the book od daniel and book of kings...really just read the whole bible tho.

as for israelite temples...peep out the book of kings, and what happened to solomon when he was fuckin all them hoes back then...

I already read the whole bible but I do need to do it again now that I have more information. You make some very good points, such as Mesopotamia. Peep the name for the great Ziggurat of Ur, which also has the older name TEMEN.NÍ.GÙR(U).(RU) meaning "house whose foundation creates terror". The connections to the Assyrian Nimrud are interesting as well.

The Sumerians knew about the Disagreeable aspect, because that is a part of the original man too. And the Illuminati/Greco-Roman civilization traces itself to that origin through the later Babylonian & Ptolemaic mix. Hence why the enlightened (Rastas especially) are always talking about striking down Babylon.

But all indigenous cultures had agreeable & disagreeable sides, just like today.

 

[musicology1985]

my apologies that must have been the Greek influence. I was off track because the Washington monument (obelisks) was done to commemorate the Freemason George Washington.

and Pain, no disrespect but YOU ARE NOT A MASON. YOU ARE A FREEMASON (1717 A.D. TIL PRESENT.)

and I was right about my correction. the obelisk spreading globally in the 1700's til present is a byproduct of the Greek Revival Movement by way of Robert Mills, who is alleged to have been a Freemason.

 

[major pain]

and I was right about my correction. the obelisk spreading globally in the 1700's til present is a byproduct of the Greek Revival Movement by way of Robert Mills, who is alleged to have been a Freemason.

Now class, can you figure out the key word in this sentence?

Along the lines of your "correction". You do realize George Washington was much more than a Freemason? In fact, he was not even that active with the group. Probably opening another can of worms here....

 

[musicology1985]

Now class, can you figure out the key word in this sentence?

Along the lines of your "correction". You do realize George Washington was much more than a Freemason? In fact, he was not even that active with the group. Probably opening another can of worms here....

Man you want congratulations that bad? Just because you were the first one to call out the 90 degrees does not mean others did not see it. You just were itching to spite a brother a like Seti, H Rap & myself who are exposing the truth about REAL HIGH LEVEL MASONRY.

Now, back to the task at hand. You didn't correct me, I corrected myself. In order for you to correct me you have to state that Robert Mills was not a Freemason, because there is major speculation and writings stating that he and his partner was. Which means that you are trying to hide something. If you can't, my first comment still stands. I just had to correctly refine it.

In addition, if you really want to build with the brothers, explain yourself. Was Washington a Rosicrucian? Something else?

 

[major pain]

Man you want congratulations that bad? Just because you were the first one to call out the 90 degrees does not mean others did not see it. You just were itching to spite a brother a like Seti, H Rap & myself who are exposing the truth about REAL HIGH LEVEL MASONRY.

Now, back to the task at hand. You didn't correct me, I corrected myself. In order for you to correct me you have to state that Robert Mills was not a Freemason, because there is major speculation and writings stating that he and his partner was. Which means that you are trying to hide something. If you can't, my first comment still stands. I just had to correctly refine it.

In addition, if you really want to build with the brothers, explain yourself. Was Washington a Rosicrucian? Something else?

I'm not looking for any congratulations, I'm not even concerned with that video. I find it hilarious, that you and people like you feed into the type of stuff those videos suggest wholeheartedly when they obviously dont know WTF they are talking about half the time. If you feel spited, go suck on a lemon. You looking for approval on here or something? And uh, sure, you are exposing "high level masonry". Seems contradictory to what Hrap said, because he claimed this was a joke... maybe you two should get on the same accord regarding this?

You suggested that obelisks had "something" to do with masonry. It doesnt, and I corrected you on that. I know you dont like me or my ideas or whatever, but thats the truth of it, sorry. I'm gonna go ahead and assume had I not said anything about it, you would not have. Now, if you want me to correct you about Robert Mills I can do that also. One of the funny things about history, especially, in the last few centuries, is that people recorded things in writing much more than they do now. So, with that said, there is nothing recorded that Mills, was a mason. I find that very strange, that he would, in fact, be a mason, but there be no record of it in that day and age. Also this "major speculation" you speak of comes from ONE source. David Ovason. Sorry, but there is nothing "major" about that. Its his own thoughts and while intriguing there is nothing in his writings that prove the suggestion, much like you. WTF is this about hiding something with you? You really do try and draw too many conclusions from what I say.

And WTF does this bolded statement mean? Washington was a MAN first and foremost, ya know same kind of guy puts on his pants one leg at a time. Aside from that he was a leader in the revolutionary war, (ya know that one against the british empire that supposedly is ran by masons) and the first president too... I just find it funny that you choose to ignore his other works in his life and suggest that he had a monument erected because he was a mason. Lincoln has a monument also and he wasnt a mason. Anyways, thats my history lesson for the day.

 

[musicology1985]

I'm not looking for any congratulations, I'm not even concerned with that video. I find it hilarious, that you and people like you feed into the type of stuff those videos suggest wholeheartedly when they obviously dont know WTF they are talking about half the time. If you feel spited, go suck on a lemon. You looking for approval on here or something? And uh, sure, you are exposing "high level masonry". Seems contradictory to what Hrap said, because he claimed this was a joke... maybe you two should get on the same accord regarding this?

blah blah blah.

You suggested that obelisks had "something" to do with masonry. It doesnt, and I corrected you on that. I know you dont like me or my ideas or whatever, but thats the truth of it, sorry. I'm gonna go ahead and assume had I not said anything about it, you would not have. Now, if you want me to correct you about Robert Mills I can do that also. One of the funny things about history, especially, in the last few centuries, is that people recorded things in writing much more than they do now. So, with that said, there is nothing recorded that Mills, was a mason. I find that very strange, that he would, in fact, be a mason, but there be no record of it in that day and age. Also this "major speculation" you speak of comes from ONE source. David Ovason. Sorry, but there is nothing "major" about that. Its his own thoughts and while intriguing there is nothing in his writings that prove the suggestion, much like you. WTF is this about hiding something with you? You really do try and draw too many conclusions from what I say.

hmm. Interesting. what major Obelisks were global before the Washington monument. also, was his partner not a Freemason as well? answer the question. You cannot deny that Freemasonry was a major inspiration for the spread of it, as well as the Greek Revival being the foundation (which you are also a part of.) and u did make that comment to spite Seti & Rap & make them look bad. Which is eerily similiar to your snakish Bean Pie comment.

And WTF does this bolded statement mean? Washington was a MAN first and foremost, ya know same kind of guy puts on his pants one leg at a time. Aside from that he was a leader in the revolutionary war, (ya know that one against the british empire that supposedly is ran by masons) and the first president too... I just find it funny that you choose to ignore his other works in his life and suggest that he had a monument erected because he was a mason. Lincoln has a monument also and he wasnt a mason. Anyways, thats my history lesson for the day.

LMAO. Man you are full of it. You made it seem like you had something profound to say. You ain't do nothing but repeat what all of us heard in history class. Man I tell you, your brand of Freemasonry is so played out.

You are such a lame. You make the brothers involved in Freemasonry look bad.

 

[hrap-120]

Platinum Push!!!

Why y'all wasnt in the Reason with us watching the B.E.T awards??

Peace

 

[musicology1985]

From all the research that I have done. There is always a connection between the Greeks, Romans & Freemasons in between. Major, why do the Freemasons tie themselves into the Knights of Malta & Templars (two Catholic orders). the Catholics erected the Obelisk in St. Peters Basilica in 1586 A.D. & many others followed. Those three groups always come up.

 

[musicology1985]

Pain answer my questions boy.

 

[major pain]

You are such a lame. You make the brothers involved in Freemasonry look bad.

LOL, you want me to confirm that the "spread" of obelisks is because of freemasonry? Sorry, cant do that, because there is nothing to suggest it. Who is this partner you speak of? Name, names... Also, you really should start doing some basic fact finding before making blanket statements.

17th century

Fontaine des Quatre Dauphins in Aix-en-Provence.
Aix-en-Provence – Fontaine des Quatre Dauphins, 1667

18th century
St Luke Old Street (church), London, spire by Nicholas Hawksmoor circa 1727-33.
Mamhead obelisk, one hundred feet, built 1742-1745 as an aid to shipping.[23]
Stowe School, Buckinghamshire – General Wolfe's Obelisk, 1754
Montreal Park Obelisk, Riverhead, Sevenoaks, Kent - Lord Jeffery Amherst's Obelisk, 1761.[24]
Kagul Obelisk in Tsarskoe Selo, 1772
Chesma Obelisk in Gatchina, 1775
Villa Medici, Rome – a 19th century copy of the Egyptian obelisk moved to the Boboli Gardens in Florence in 1790.
Rumyantsev Obelisk in St Petersburg, 1799
Obelisk at Slottsbacken, Stockholm, erected 1800

19th century

Nelson memorial, Springfield Park, Liverpool, circa 1805.
"Brightling Needle", Brightling, East Sussex (65 ft), circa 1815.[25]
Patriots' Grave, Old Burying Ground, Arlington, Massachusetts (1818).
Captain Cook's Monument, Easby Moor, Great Ayton, North Yorkshire, 1827 (15.5m, 51ft).[26]
Groton Monument at (Fort Griswold), Groton, Connecticut, 1830, (41.15m, 135ft)
Bunker Hill Monument, Charlestown, Massachusetts – built between 1827 and 1843.
Villa Torlonia, Rome – two obelisks erected 1842.
Reggio Emilia obelisk, commemorates marriage of Francis V, Duke of Modena to princess Adelgunde of Bavaria, built 1842.
Rutherford's Monument near Anwoth, Scotland erected in 1842 as a memorial to Samuel Rutherford.
The Political Martyrs monument, Edinburgh, erected 1844 as a memorial to the "Scottish Martyrs to Liberty".
Lansdowne Monument, near the Cherhill White Horse, Wiltshire, 1845, 38 metres, erected by the 3rd Marquess of Lansdowne to commemorate Sir William Petty.[27]
Newcastle, New South Wales – "The Obelisk", built 1850.
Wellington Monument, Wellington, Somerset, completed 1854, (53.34m, 175ft).
Stoodley Pike, Todmorden, West Yorkshire, built 1856.
Obelisk of Fontenoy, 1860.
Wellington Monument, 1861, (62m, 205ft), Phoenix Park, Dublin, Ireland.
Lincoln's Tomb in Springfield, Illinois, 1865, (35.66m, 117ft).
Nicholson's obelisk, Margalla Hills, Pakistan 1868.
Captain Cook Obelisk, Kurnell, New South Wales, 1870.
The Dauphin County Veteran's Memorial Obelisk in Harrisburg, PA, completed 1876, (33.52m, 110ft).

All those came before the Washington monument. I know you believe or want to believe masonry is responsible for everything, and as cool as that would be for me, its simply not true.

As far as Washington goes, you tell me if there is something else I'm leaving out about him? Ya know, since I'm into "hiding" things? You just dont like the fact that I'll speak about things in their full context rather than some limited view that only caters to what I want it to be.

 

[musicology1985]

LOL, you want me to confirm that the "spread" of obelisks is because of freemasonry? Sorry, cant do that, because there is nothing to suggest it. Who is this partner you speak of? Name, names... Also, you really should start doing some basic fact finding before making blanket statements.

17th century

Fontaine des Quatre Dauphins in Aix-en-Provence.
Aix-en-Provence – Fontaine des Quatre Dauphins, 1667

18th century
St Luke Old Street (church), London, spire by Nicholas Hawksmoor circa 1727-33.
Mamhead obelisk, one hundred feet, built 1742-1745 as an aid to shipping.[23]
Stowe School, Buckinghamshire – General Wolfe's Obelisk, 1754
Montreal Park Obelisk, Riverhead, Sevenoaks, Kent - Lord Jeffery Amherst's Obelisk, 1761.[24]
Kagul Obelisk in Tsarskoe Selo, 1772
Chesma Obelisk in Gatchina, 1775
Villa Medici, Rome – a 19th century copy of the Egyptian obelisk moved to the Boboli Gardens in Florence in 1790.
Rumyantsev Obelisk in St Petersburg, 1799
Obelisk at Slottsbacken, Stockholm, erected 1800

19th century

Nelson memorial, Springfield Park, Liverpool, circa 1805.
"Brightling Needle", Brightling, East Sussex (65 ft), circa 1815.[25]
Patriots' Grave, Old Burying Ground, Arlington, Massachusetts (1818).
Captain Cook's Monument, Easby Moor, Great Ayton, North Yorkshire, 1827 (15.5m, 51ft).[26]
Groton Monument at (Fort Griswold), Groton, Connecticut, 1830, (41.15m, 135ft)
Bunker Hill Monument, Charlestown, Massachusetts – built between 1827 and 1843.
Villa Torlonia, Rome – two obelisks erected 1842.
Reggio Emilia obelisk, commemorates marriage of Francis V, Duke of Modena to princess Adelgunde of Bavaria, built 1842.
Rutherford's Monument near Anwoth, Scotland erected in 1842 as a memorial to Samuel Rutherford.
The Political Martyrs monument, Edinburgh, erected 1844 as a memorial to the "Scottish Martyrs to Liberty".
Lansdowne Monument, near the Cherhill White Horse, Wiltshire, 1845, 38 metres, erected by the 3rd Marquess of Lansdowne to commemorate Sir William Petty.[27]
Newcastle, New South Wales – "The Obelisk", built 1850.
Wellington Monument, Wellington, Somerset, completed 1854, (53.34m, 175ft).
Stoodley Pike, Todmorden, West Yorkshire, built 1856.
Obelisk of Fontenoy, 1860.
Wellington Monument, 1861, (62m, 205ft), Phoenix Park, Dublin, Ireland.
Lincoln's Tomb in Springfield, Illinois, 1865, (35.66m, 117ft).
Nicholson's obelisk, Margalla Hills, Pakistan 1868.
Captain Cook Obelisk, Kurnell, New South Wales, 1870.
The Dauphin County Veteran's Memorial Obelisk in Harrisburg, PA, completed 1876, (33.52m, 110ft).

All those came before the Washington monument. I know you believe or want to believe masonry is responsible for everything, and as cool as that would be for me, its simply not true.

As far as Washington goes, you tell me if there is something else I'm leaving out about him? Ya know, since I'm into "hiding" things? You just dont like the fact that I'll speak about things in their full context rather than some limited view that only caters to what I want it to be.

Good post but it is very suspicious that you left out St. Peters Basilica which was before all of them. So none of those guys were Freemasons but all were influenced by Greco-Roman Civilization (just like u). So again, answer my second question. Why do you Freemasons tie yourselves into groups like the Knights Templar through legend? And I never said Freemasons were responsible for everything, I said they are the binding glue, which, of course has been proven. All I see over and over again is Greek-Freemasonic-Roman. That's like the whole entire western civilization right there.

 

[musicology1985]

Platinum Push!!!

Why y'all wasnt in the Reason with us watching the B.E.T awards??

Peace

I just got back to the crib.

 

[major pain]

From all the research that I have done. There is always a connection between the Greeks, Romans & Freemasons in between. Major, why do the Freemasons tie themselves into the Knights of Malta & Templars (two Catholic orders). the Catholics erected the Obelisk in St. Peters Basilica in 1586 A.D. & many others followed. Those three groups always come up.

Yea, just like there is a "connection" between Freemasonry, and the builders of Solomon's temple. LOL, you can literally MAKE a connection if you want to find one bad enough with anything. The selling point is if its an intentional one or if its circumstance. To find out why we have orders named after those orders is something you would have to come to realization by way of going through the trials yourself. Also, despite theories and research on the subject by masonic authors and non-masonic authors there are no direct ties between the three.

Pain answer my questions boy.

LOL, you really that mad?

 

[hrap-120]

I just got back to the crib.

It'll be back on..it was pretty decent.

 

[musicology1985]

Good post but it is very suspicious that you left out St. Peters Basilica which was before all of them. So none of those guys were Freemasons but all were influenced by Greco-Roman Civilization (just like u). So again, answer my second question. Why do you Freemasons tie yourselves into groups like the Knights Templar through legend? And I never said Freemasons were responsible for everything, I said they are the binding glue, which, of course has been proven. All I see over and over again is Greek-Freemasonic-Roman. That's like the whole entire western civilization right there.

Oh yeah, and the Washington monument may have not been the reason but had a ton to do with the popularity. That's like the second most known monument outside of the one in Rome. Like I said in the closed thread. Whenever something major is going down, Freemasons be there.

 

[major pain]

Good post but it is very suspicious that you left out St. Peters Basilica which was before all of them. So none of those guys were Freemasons but all were influenced by Greco-Roman Civilization (just like u). So again, answer my second question. Why do you Freemasons tie yourselves into groups like the Knights Templar through legend? And I never said Freemasons were responsible for everything, I said they are the binding glue, which, of course has been proven. All I see over and over again is Greek-Freemasonic-Roman. That's like the whole entire western civilization right there.

Or MAYBE I just copied and pasted obelisks from the 17th century forward since those are considered modern. Jesus you expect so much out of every one of my posts.... lol

 

[musicology1985]

Yea, just like there is a "connection" between Freemasonry, and the builders of Solomon's temple. LOL, you can literally MAKE a connection if you want to find one bad enough with anything. The selling point is if its an intentional one or if its circumstance. To find out why we have orders named after those orders is something you would have to come to realization by way of going through the trials yourself. Also, despite theories and research on the subject by masonic authors and non-masonic authors there are no direct ties between the three.

Come on man u know I proved the connection. That's how y'all roll even today. Greek-Freemasonic-Roman. It's everywhere, you can't deny it. Just look at you personally. You are in a Greek Frat, you are a Freemason with Legendary ties to the Catholic Knights Templar. And if you really want to keep it real, u a Roc-A-Fella (which goes back to my point about Freemasons always being in the middle of some shit, i.e. the binding glue of global order.)


LOL, you really that mad?

No, I'm just flipping around the same term you used on me. You can't deny the connections boy. The real Masons is coming back, boy.

now what u got?

 

[musicology1985]

It'll be back on..it was pretty decent.

thats wassup. Imma check it out. good lookin.'

 

[major pain]

Oh yeah, and the Washington monument may have not been the reason but had a ton to do with the popularity. That's like the second most known monument outside of the one in Rome. Like I said in the closed thread. Whenever something major is going down, Freemasons be there.

Yea, and the problem is what you deem "Freemasonic" culture. There are very few symbols or ideas that can be termed exclusive. So, what, SPECIFICALLY (there is that word again) are you referring to?

There are very VERY few cultures that have not been influenced in someway, by the Greeks or Romans. I'd venture to say that any MODERNIZED culture has been. You have to realize that those were 2 of the more extensive empires the world has ever seen? Still the Washington monument or the obelisk as a symbol has NOTHING to do with masonry.