Samuel L Jackson: Hollywood Avoids Real Issues of Racism

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Dr.Chemix;6741023 said:
what? You sure the author didn't change some words around and shit? Cause this is the same dude on a interview for when he did Django Unchained, trying to get the interviewer to say nigga. Now the flip flop...I'm moving along here.

And yall niggas need to start putting this race shit in its proper forum...R and R. Shit is getting mad old. This is all you can talk about? Feminism and racism? You have nothing else to offer to the community besides that? Or yall don't want to deal with janklow's ass??? lol

This thread is better than most of the stupid shit that gets posted in this supposedly grown subforum
 
BlackJerryMaguire;6741061 said:
Dr.Chemix;6741023 said:
what? You sure the author didn't change some words around and shit? Cause this is the same dude on a interview for when he did Django Unchained, trying to get the interviewer to say nigga. Now the flip flop...I'm moving along here.

And yall niggas need to start putting this race shit in its proper forum...R and R. Shit is getting mad old. This is all you can talk about? Feminism and racism? You have nothing else to offer to the community besides that? Or yall don't want to deal with janklow's ass??? lol

This thread is better than most of the stupid shit that gets posted in this supposedly grown subforum

To me it isn't. It's the same thing. Over and over again. Shit needs to start going to R and R. I'm come into the GNS to talk about other shit. It was cool in the beginning but its old now. Take it to the R and R. Niggas have no creative ideas for threads no more so they look for these topics.

But let it be about some black kids excelling or doing some revolutionary shit...no one checks that thread.
 
BlackJerryMaguire;6740957 said:
BIGG WILL;6740876 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6740850 said:
MR.CJ;6739642 said:
What about a nat turner movie?

Ppl always say this but. ....... . He wasn't successful. U know that right?

Nat Turner's Rebellion was a slave rebellion that took place in Southampton County, Virginia, during August 1831 Led by Nat Turner, rebel slaves killed anywhere from 55 to 65 people, the highest number of fatalities caused by any slave uprising in the American South. The rebellion was put down within a few days, but Turner survived in hiding for more than two months afterwards

Harriet Tubman didn't free every slave. Was she not successful?

Whites then killed over 200 slaves and passed laws that made slaves lives worse.

And you're not gonna sit there and say harriet Tubman was unsuccessful cmon.

North America never had a successful slave rebellion anyway

Whites were going to kill and make shit worse for Black People anyway. That's just how the Oppressor works. Same shit Happened with the Black Panther Party. Laws and shit were changed and in many cases Black People were killed simply because Black people were standing up to themselves.

You clearly missed the point about Tubman. In the entire scope of things, Nat Turner was not going have a successful rebellion, by killing every single white person, or even every slave master in the South, in the same way we would never judge Tubmans success on the fact that she did not free every single slave.

 
BlackJerryMaguire;6741199 said:
So nat turner was successful because he killed a bunch of white people?

You made the 1st claim that he wasn't successful. So, in your mind, what would have made his slave rebellion a success?

 
BIGG WILL;6741320 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6741199 said:
So nat turner was successful because he killed a bunch of white people?

You made the 1st claim that he wasn't successful. So, in your mind, what would have made his slave rebellion a success?

See Gasper Yanga, the Haiti an Revolution and Jamaican Maroon Wars
 
BlackJerryMaguire;6741557 said:
BIGG WILL;6741320 said:
BlackJerryMaguire;6741199 said:
So nat turner was successful because he killed a bunch of white people?

You made the 1st claim that he wasn't successful. So, in your mind, what would have made his slave rebellion a success?

See Gasper Yanga, the Haiti an Revolution and Jamaican Maroon Wars

If you actually know about Yanga then you know that, that was a completely different situation than what we were dealing with in the American South.

Haiti is only 10,715 sq miles. For comparison, just 1 state in FLorida is 65,755 sq miles. Thats 6 times bigger and I am not including the entire south. Again, two completely different situations. Or did you expect Turner and his band of slaves to overthrow all of the south? (I already made mention of this earlier in the thread)

As far as the Maroon Wars are concerned, Jamaica is not even half the size of Haiti and again a completely different situation Turners.

Now, if Turner could have broken away with a bunch of other Slaves in some far off mountainous area and live separately by themselves for 20-30 years and only had 10k sq miles to deal then yea, I could see your point. But like I said earlier, when you take the entire scope of the situation comparing this to that is completely different.

 
Cain;6741905 said:
Will they make a Black Wall Street movie is what I'm concerned about or a Nat Turner bi-opic. Or will they get bold and make a movie about the Black Seminole rebellion that killed 400 whites.

Definatley ain't gonna do that. The Seminoles have a deeper hidden history that they would have to bring to the light to make a movie lik that.
 
Cain;6741905 said:
Will they make a Black Wall Street movie is what I'm concerned about or a Nat Turner bi-opic. Or will they get bold and make a movie about the Black Seminole rebellion that killed 400 whites.

I would like to see Black Wall Street made into an well produced Mini-Series. I just don't see a 90 min movie telling the story good enough.
 
Noodles McGrowcious;6741315 said:
kai;6740409 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXt69dWvT4Y

okay found the clip i was talking about, oh and it was the writer of the movie, not the director. it's good tho

I saw this shit when it first came on. Shit was wack.

Of course Hollywood got the lightskinned Negro to tell the story.

And I'm a fan of Bill forreal. I don't like everything he does and he really could practice what he preaches and get a more diverse panel.

I watch Bill every week but i wasn't feelin him bringin this coon ass nigga on the show.

What?! don't kno if ur trollin or not. but I watched the episode live. and didn't see a problem with it.

 
Noodles McGrowcious;6745800 said:
marc123;6744542 said:
Noodles McGrowcious;6741315 said:
kai;6740409 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXt69dWvT4Y

okay found the clip i was talking about, oh and it was the writer of the movie, not the director. it's good tho

I saw this shit when it first came on. Shit was wack.

Of course Hollywood got the lightskinned Negro to tell the story.

And I'm a fan of Bill forreal. I don't like everything he does and he really could practice what he preaches and get a more diverse panel.

I watch Bill every week but i wasn't feelin him bringin this coon ass nigga on the show.

What?! don't kno if ur trollin or not. but I watched the episode live. and didn't see a problem with it.

@Noodles doesn't troll.

I'm just keepin it 100. I've been ridin with Sam and Nick Cannon since day 1. And actually way before that.

The only thing good about it is that our kids see the vast contrast between how we were and how we are today. But there's better and more productive and effective ways of doing that.

list some...

 
I agree wholeheartedly with Samuel L Jackson. He hit the nail on the head, as well as the posters in this thread that alluded to the limited mainstream earning potential of the hypothetical accurate portrayal movies without a 'white slant' or white savior tropes.

Whites will not pay for anything that doesn't oversimplify and romanticize racism with overtones reeking of "that was in the past, you blacks aren't oppressed anymore and we're no longer the bad guys." Any mainstream movie that attempts to depict racism whites require a cathartic 'happy ending' that absolves them of any shame or guilt. They don't want to be reminded that their hegemonic power in our society is entirely built upon racism and oppression.

It's the exact reason Danny Glover couldn't obtain the cash and resources from Hollywood to make a Toussaint L'ouverture film.
 
Poor Denmark Vessey, he gets ratted on so he doesn't get to kill white people and now no one shows him any love. :(
 

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