RZA Says He Hasn't Heard Of Jay Electronica! *DEAD* -- "The South Has Slow Mind..."

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gifted;731036 said:
It's not the violent/gangsta content that offends, it's how its presented. It's like comparing watching Heat and watching some B.S movie. Is it realistic, entertaining and/or creatively done is the question.
j-cole can convey the exact same thing that Wacka says but it's done with creativity/flow/lyrics.

Take a Nas line like 'Went from Seiko to Rolex, to Dimes giving fellatio' is more creative than saying ' I was po b4, Now I'm mad rich with hoes sucking my dick on the flo'

Realest shit I read in this whole thread. You sound like a person thats been involved with music outside of just being a fan.

A man must be desperate or delusional to have to use 10 yr old examples of lyrics.

Balance is the key to life


we had Biggie but Rakim was bigger than him and balanced it out with supreme wisdom

we had Big Pun but we also have Immortal technique to balance it out tu sabes?

we had Raekwon but we had KRS-ONE bigger than him balancing it out with H.E.A.L

we had Kool G. Rap but we Mos Def & Talib Kweli to balance that out

....yeah NY talk that violent shit but they are responsible for the Stop the Violence movement in HipHop.

.....yeah NY talk that drug shit but they are responsible for the Afrocentric movement in hiphop

....yeah NY talk that Party & Bullshit but they are also responsible for the Hiphop Youth Council.....

and say the South is better content wise... bullshit, who brainwashed you?
 
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FrozenMind;730941 said:
Doubt it. You buy too easily into there image, but so did alot of people. Thats how they were able to sell millions of records.

Also Alot of NY cats talk about the same violent shit as southern artists and were doing it 15+ years ago.

On OB4CL rae talks about murdering a storekeeper, kidnapping his connect and his wife and shooting him, that robbing him, and many other things. On supreme clientele he talks about pulling a kickdoor... "2 hours later, schemin like denero in casino/son better have more coke than al pacino/"

Pun talked about kidnapping and torturing people, and children, killing people, as did Kool G. Rap. Biggie also talked about raping men with brooms, raping women, and raping and murdering rivals children.

Basically shit much worse than what wacka flacka or gucci mane talks about, and you are saying there content is unacceptable and harming to the black community, and say the east is better content wise... bullshit, who brainwashed you?

Really content wise if talking about gangsta shit offends you, the north is worse than the south, they are just more clever when they say it.

Don't even mention the west... The G-Funk era, someone dies in almost every verse... Do you fools have ears?

U cant really stay on Topic can u, SOmebody Show u sometghing u sdont Like, and u switch it up................b ut Whateva, I guess this what a person does when they cant prove they Points...............
 
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gifted;731036 said:
It's not the violent/gangsta content that offends, it's how its presented. It's like comparing watching Heat and watching some B.S movie. Is it realistic, entertaining and/or creatively done is the question.

j-cole can convey the exact same thing that Wacka says but it's done with creativity/flow/lyrics.

Take a Nas line like 'Went from Seiko to Rolex, to Dimes giving fellatio' is more creative than saying ' I was po b4, Now I'm mad rich with hoes sucking my dick on the flo'

I said in my post THAT YOU QUOTED that they are more clever about saying it, that in three words said what you just said in 5 sentences. Apparently reading comprehension is not you or hraps strong suit. Thank you for re-enforcing my point without saying it while simultaneously proving hrap (Mr. industry nigga) either doesn't read when planning a rebuttal or is stupid.

You guys were addressing the content and how it negatively effects the younger generations. Kids are smart enough to know biggie is talking about raping children when he says "Me and my nigga kidnap kids/fuck em in the ass throw em over the bridge" weather or not is surrounded by simple lyrics or metaphors.
 
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hrap-120;731148 said:
Realest shit I read in this whole thread. You sound like a person thats been involved with music outside of just being a fan.

A man must be desperate or delusional to have to use 10 yr old examples of lyrics.

Balance is the key to life


we had Biggie but Rakim was bigger than him and balanced it out with supreme wisdom

we had Big Pun but we also have Immortal technique to balance it out tu sabes?

we had Raekwon but we had KRS-ONE bigger than him balancing it out with H.E.A.L

we had Kool G. Rap but we Mos Def & Talib Kweli to balance that out

....yeah NY talk that violent shit but they are responsible for the Stop the Violence movement in HipHop.

.....yeah NY talk that drug shit but they are responsible for the Afrocentric movement in hiphop

....yeah NY talk that Party & Bullshit but they are also responsible for the Hiphop Youth Council.....

and say the South is better content wise... bullshit, who brainwashed you?

You just made a point that G Rap is irrelevant content wise because he never had a gold record and came out in 1999 (Actually he came out in the mid 80s and did have a gold record along with quite a few well selling singles, and is still dropping albums to this day, shows how much you know and how your opinion doesn't mean shit) Than you post this shit saying...

we had Biggie but Rakim was bigger than him and balanced it out with supreme wisdom

we had Big Pun but we also have ]Immortal technique to balance it out tu sabes?

we had Raekwon but we had KRS-ONE bigger than him balancing it out with H.E.A.L

we had Kool G. Rap but we Mos Def & Talib Kweli to balance that out

The ones bolded sold more records and had more impact on the mainstream than the ones you compared them to. Also you talk of this "Stop the violence movement" and the hip hop youth council which are needles in a haystack. How can you contradict yourself in back to back posts and dickride another man just to hate on the facts I posted?

Also 2000s NY hip hop is MORE VIOLENT AND MORE MISOGYNISTIC than the 90s examples I listed. Dipset even invented and made there own personal slang term for cooking crack famous in the 00s. "Pyrex vision".
Well I guess sense its a metaphor and not just saying "I cook dat coke" it changes the meaning GTFOH and come back when you don't feel like contradicting yourself and want to present the facts instead of just saying dumb shit so you feel better about yourself.
 
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In the video Rza clearly states facts, not opinions. He used his own grand parents as the example and nucleus from where he formed his thoughts on the South. With that being said, his thoughts are right on point. I'm from and live the south (Florida/Georgia) but I've also lived up north (NYC & up state). There is a difference in the education system and dialect of common citizens. Southern schools are inferior to northern schools; its just a fact. The south moves slower than the north (FACT). I'm not saying everyone in the south is un-intelligent; you'd be a fool if you beleive that. There are plenty of intelligent brothas and sistas in the south, but overall the south expresses more ignorance through music, dialect, and cultural awareness than the north (FACT).
 
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You just made a point that G Rap is irrelevant content wise because he never had a gold record and came out in 1999 (Actually he came out in the mid 80s and did have a gold record along with quite a few well selling singles, and is still dropping albums to this day, shows how much you know and how your opinion doesn't mean shit) Than you post this shit saying...
LMAO. take the L'.

Did I say G-Rap was irrelevant..no I didnt, but you referencing G-rap would be equal to me mentioning Trick daddy or LiL Keke.

Hey I didnt make a list with two dead rappers and two 40 year old rappers..as examples, you did. I just worked it better.

The ones bolded sold more records and had more impact on the mainstream than the ones you compared them to.
Rakim & KRS ONE are legends who are still dropping albums their impact is their longevity...get over it.
Also you talk of this "Stop the violence movement" and the hip hop youth council which are needles in a haystack
Were are your needles at?? Do you even have needles on the level of H.E.A.L & HHYC?? We dont call them "needles" we call them positive movements that give back to Hiphop.

You have resorted to using profanity which would indicate to everyone that you are flustered....calm down and take a deep breathe.

The poor fellow was so flustered he couldnt muster the strength to refute the BALANCE thats essential in any genre...he went off on some babbling tangent about Dipset.

...for every Dipset their is a Native Tounges

...for every "pyrex vision" there is a "Temple of HipHop"

...for every Kool G. Rap there is a KRS-ONE

BALANCE IS THE KEY TO LIFE...WERE'S YOURS??????
 
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FrozenMind;731226 said:
You just made a point that G Rap is irrelevant content wise because he never had a gold record and came out in 1999 (Actually he came out in the mid 80s and did have a gold record along with quite a few well selling singles, and is still dropping albums to this day, shows how much you know and how your opinion doesn't mean shit) Than you post this shit saying...

we had Biggie but Rakim was bigger than him and balanced it out with supreme wisdom

we had Big Pun but we also have ]Immortal technique to balance it out tu sabes?

we had Raekwon but we had KRS-ONE bigger than him balancing it out with H.E.A.L

we had Kool G. Rap but we Mos Def & Talib Kweli to balance that out

The ones bolded sold more records and had more impact on the mainstream than the ones you compared them to. Also you talk of this "Stop the violence movement" and the hip hop youth council which are needles in a haystack. How can you contradict yourself in back to back posts and dickride another man just to hate on the facts I posted?

Also 2000s NY hip hop is MORE VIOLENT AND MORE MISOGYNISTIC than the 90s examples I listed. Dipset even invented and made there own personal slang term for cooking crack famous in the 00s. "Pyrex vision".

Well I guess sense its a metaphor and not just saying "I cook dat coke" it changes the meaning GTFOH and come back when you don't feel like contradicting yourself and want to present the facts instead of just saying dumb shit so you feel better about yourself.

more importantly, ny didnt fuck wit DipSet all crazy like they tried to make it............that was a harlem thing
 
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Kool G rap is also a legend and is still dropping albums and is more relevant currently than rakim BTW, and this still doesn't change the fact that you said G rap came out in 99 which is hilarious, and you compare native tounges to dipset, hilarious.

Guess you have never heared of cunninlyngists, little brother, goodie mob, outkast...

Its funny how every time I shit on you, you just dig a deeper hole and continue to prove my point.
 
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hrap-120;730889 said:
If I spend 80% of my time on a message board and my business is online my time is well spent, everytime I post you see links to my music, my videos, my studio, and my blogs...why are you here :)

When we talk about a coast we do it in regards to music because some of us are actual musicians....we are not the type of losers that would rep a region that we have made no contribution to.

If i was white Id be hiding behind a corny screen-name and using the word nigga.

I cant hide who i am, too many people on here are my Facebook friends or have worked with me....."self hating Uncle tom"....only if I was willing to name my screen-name after a white actor? :)

^lol....oh ya.... looks like your wasting ur time to me. I only looked at your blog for a second and that was long enough to know that u have the business skills of a 3rd grader.... let me try 2 at least give u a clue....1. 4get about blogger if ur serious about this build with wordpress and get ur own host.... ur blogspot screams amature.... 2. get a clue about adsense optimization don't just throw a lil adsense in the top left and expect that your traffic (that u don't even have) is going to click it... 3. Learn about colors.... ur shit looks neat for a preschooler to look at not to run a business.... don't let me actually evaluate it and check ur seo and everything else..... oh shit huh midwestgansta been makin money online 4 along time and ain't so dumb... ill check the rest of ur business to if iget bored.... its fun to me 2 watch rookies learn.... the funniest part is u probably think u know what ur doing lmao and like 3 dumbasses on here think ur smart
 
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Fuck RZA Old Dusty Ass Nigga, He Aint Have Nothing To Say About How Ignorant And Slow ODB Used To Act(R.I.P)
 
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midwestgangsta;731371 said:
^lol....oh ya.... looks like your wasting ur time to me. I only looked at your blog for a second and that was long enough to know that u have the business skills of a 3rd grader.... let me try 2 at least give u a clue....1. 4get about blogger if ur serious about this build with wordpress and get ur own host.... ur blogspot screams amature.... 2. get a clue about adsense optimization don't just throw a lil adsense in the top left and expect that your traffic (that u don't even have) is going to click it... 3. Learn about colors.... ur shit looks neat for a preschooler to look at not to run a business.... don't let me actually evaluate it and check ur seo and everything else..... oh shit huh midwestgansta been makin money online 4 along time and ain't so dumb... ill check the rest of ur business to if iget bored.... its fun to me 2 watch rookies learn.... the funniest part is u probably think u know what ur doing lmao and like 3 dumbasses on here think ur smart

LOL, I just looked at his twitter page and he has 119 followers. My nephew in 6th grade is apparently more popular than this "Industry big wig"

Checked out his youtube and he has 26 comments and less than 500 views on every beat he has made.

With numbers like that I should check my youtube page more often... I'm actually shitting on him and I check it maybe once a month and don't advertise it. Once again my nephew is more popular than him.

But he is getting paid off music on the internet and posting on here so people can see his amazing links, this is his dream job, and it pays better than mcdonalds, which is where he said he would be working if it wasn't for NY Rappers and allhiphop.com

Hrap is proof that real niggas get rich off the net with no traffic on there pages, and also proof that all real niggas need hip hop to survive. LOL.

Perfect example of a legend in his own mind.
 
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midwestgangsta;731371 said:
^lol....oh ya.... looks like your wasting ur time to me. I only looked at your blog for a second and that was long enough to know that u have the business skills of a 3rd grader.... let me try 2 at least give u a clue....1. 4get about blogger if ur serious about this build with wordpress and get ur own host.... ur blogspot screams amature.... 2. get a clue about adsense optimization don't just throw a lil adsense in the top left and expect that your traffic (that u don't even have) is going to click it... 3. Learn about colors.... ur shit looks neat for a preschooler to look at not to run a business.... don't let me actually evaluate it and check ur seo and everything else..... oh shit huh midwestgansta been makin money online 4 along time and ain't so dumb... ill check the rest of ur business to if iget bored.... its fun to me 2 watch rookies learn.... the funniest part is u probably think u know what ur doing lmao and like 3 dumbasses on here think ur smart

Are you talking about the bootlegz joint? Silly boy. the one everybody knows about on here is Blaxploitationpride.org ,your favorite D.J.'s favorite blog. Ask these ALLHIPHOP rappers....but listendont check my business, check yours and share it with the rest of us..O.K. :)

FrozenMind;731357 said:
Kool G rap is also a legend and is still dropping albums and is more relevant currently than rakim BTW, and this still doesn't change the fact that you said G rap came out in 99 which is hilarious, and you compare native tounges to dipset, hilarious.

Guess you have never heared of cunninlyngists, little brother, goodie mob, outkast...
Its funny how every time I shit on you, you just dig a deeper hole and continue to prove my point.
The more you type the less credibility you have.

Forgive the typo, I meant to say 89 because that was the year he dropped his first album..(I actually have a vinyl copy in my collection that I bought in 2000)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_the_Riches

^^^link to the album and date

You can stop mentioning Goodie MoBB and Outkast...just say Dungeon family.
Little Brother broke up...didnt get too much support from the South I guess.
Cunnylinguist
??? I prefer Fellatio

Trust me, Im the one doing the "shittin"...you are officialy my toilet paper.
 
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FrozenMind;731415 said:
LOL, I just looked at his twitter page and he has 119 followers. My nephew in 6th grade is apparently more popular than this "Industry big wig"
Checked out his youtube and he has 26 comments and less than 500 views on every beat he has made.
With numbers like that I should check my youtube page more often... I'm actually shitting on him and I check it maybe once a month and don't advertise it. Once again my nephew is more popular than him.
But he is getting paid off music on the internet and posting on here so people can see his amazing links, this is his dream job, and it pays better than mcdonalds, which is where he said he would be working if it wasn't for NY Rappers and allhiphop.com
Hrap is proof that real niggas get rich off the net with no traffic on there pages, and also proof that all real niggas need hip hop to survive. LOL.
Perfect example of a legend in his own mind.
I dont tweet often unless its something major. (I checked your twitter and you dont have one)

Youtube I only have 290 friends 30 subscribers only 10 videos..(You dont have a youTube any videos or a brand)

Now heres a cool little link to my music studio were we make my actual money.
http://nickelslickstudios.blogspot.com/

Heres some beats on Soundclick
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandid=1011093&content=music

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Triton Workstation^^
Whatever I am its bigger and better than you... :)

So yeah you see a lil bit of how Im living so lets see how you are living.
 
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I do have a twitter, I hardly use it and I only have people on there I actually know in real life. With that being said 4 times more people are following me than you and my nephew who is 12 has similar numbers.
Your beats are terrible. You take incredible samples and somehow fuck them up with terrible drums.
Improve your drums and you might actually make enough money to pay off whoever you leased that MPC from.
Also I don't see any pics of your studio on that site. Just links to other sites and other peoples music. Its the same template that people use for $10 a month sites. Mr big time big paid industry playa.
You don't need to know shit about me and I'm comfortable enough to not brag to strangers on the net about myself.
LS 460L
 
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FrozenMind;731513 said:
Your beats are terrible. You take incredible samples and somehow fuck them up with terrible drums.
Improve your drums and you might actually make some money.
You don't need to know shit about me and I'm comfortable enough to not brag to strangers on the net about myself.
LS 460L
(you sound angry..why the profanity..did I hurt you?)

Beats aint were the money is at, the money is in tracking vocals, mixdowns, and recording. The best joints stay on beat-cd's.

I can say what i do and back it up...you cant do that. You couldnt debate any longer because you were getting beat up so you changed the subject and I still shitted on you.

Im comfortable enough knowing that.
 
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this shyt was entertaining yo....anyways i didnt see too much wrong with what sun said
 
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a_list;731534 said:
this shyt was entertaining yo....anyways i didnt see too much wrong with what sun said
We must have touched his Soul, he went back and edited his last post about his "twitter followers" and the Studio...^^^last time edited??

I beat the boy into submission so bad he forgot the topic.....now thats an ass-whoopin fa-real.

And he still aint posted his music...shame on him!
 
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hrap-120;731499 said:
I dont tweet often unless its something major. (I checked your twitter and you dont have one)

Youtube I only have 290 friends 30 subscribers only 10 videos..(You dont have a youTube any videos or a brand)

Now heres a cool little link to my music studio were we make my actual money.

http://nickelslickstudios.blogspot.com/

Heres some beats on Soundclick

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandid=1011093&content=music

View attachment 2770

^^^me next to my inbox in the Studio Pro Tools Rack)

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^^studio MPC4000 in background thats my baby!!

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Triton Workstation^^

Whatever I am its bigger and better than you... :)

So yeah you see a lil bit of how Im living so lets see how you are living.

^lmao.... so now nickelslick is ur primary business... which one is it? Lol. If u r runnin ur primary business through blogger u r lost as fuck.... the funny thing is I been makin money for years as an affiliate teachin beginners like you how to make money online. If u weren't such a dumbass I would actually help u because u r lost.... at least ill share this... download wordpress and create ur blog through that.... u will have much more creative control.... then get ur own host... with the amount of traffic u get it will cost less than $10 a month.... but the key here is always own ur business... never run it through blogger or any other free host because u really don't own it... u rookies kill me with this fascination 2.... invest in dreamweaver and learn how to build an actual site first.... then as u gain traffic promote ur blog based off that.... cats r jus 2 lazy 2 learn this business these days.... don't be scared... u don't even have to learn any html coding... but if u do u will have more creative control.... step ur game up if ur serious about this shit.... and don't question me cause I been doin this along time.... ur obviously a beginner
 
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RZA is an idiot for this
Wu tang is getting kinda ignorant the more they comment about the south.
I would be okay if they were talking about lil jon or gucci but all of southern rap..........lost me
Jay electronica has a point about how stupid these dudes act sometimes and have the nerve to call people out on their intelligence.
 
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