How a nigga hate on Burton's Batman & Batman Returns but got fuckin Superman II?! C'mon B.
No Sin City? If you can stay awake during the Watchmen it is a good movie...IF you can survive the 3 and a half hrs.
Spidey was aight, I like X-Men more though.
All Supes movies are trash, they need to just body the concept of making a decent Supes movie. They change the actor for every damn flick and its still lame. They even had Kevin Spacey in Superman Returns and it was STILL wack. WTF?
No Sin City? If you can stay awake during the Watchmen it is a good movie...IF you can survive the 3 and a half hrs.
Spidey was aight, I like X-Men more though.
All Supes movies are trash, they need to just body the concept of making a decent Supes movie. They change the actor for every damn flick and its still lame. They even had Kevin Spacey in Superman Returns and it was STILL wack. WTF?
desertrain10
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Some of my favs that havent been mentioned...
A History of Violence, Old Boy, Hell Boy, Ghost World, Scott Pilgrim Vs the World, Men In Black....
A History of Violence, Old Boy, Hell Boy, Ghost World, Scott Pilgrim Vs the World, Men In Black....
jono;5851232 said:
Superman The Movie is one of the best movies in the superhero subgenre. Fuck you talking about. I think people let the wackness of it's sequels by comparison (though I do enjoy III for the WTFness & many parts of Superman II) affect their opinion of it but it's pretty much perfect for it's time. Every movie you people splooge over from Batman Begins to that wack ass first X-Men movie were completely inspired by it. Nolan and Singer have said as much more times than I can count. It's formula is also why Marvel Studios has found success with their movies as well as Iron Man, Cap and Thor just completely bit STM's structure.
BTW Man of Steel will make you eat your words I guarantee it. The other filmmakers who have tackled Superman since STM did NOT understand Superman or his world. Hell I'd even say Donner didn't get Superman despite making the only classic movie in the film franchise. As much as I like that movie it's not the Superman movie I personally would've made in the late 70's at all.
It strayed from the source material of the time in many ways that didn't make sense and would've benefited from being more faithful to them especially when it came to Clark Kent and Lex Luthor's characterization but still was a great adventure. It's a well made film and for that reason will always be a classic.
Richard Lester was a comedy and adventure film director who didn't get Supes like that either. With that said II and III are infinitely more entertaining than Superman Returns. All Bryan Singer's wack ass knew about Superman was Richard Donner's movie which isn't a good thing for someone tackling a new Superman movie especially the first one in over 20 years. His movie was automatically outdated on sight just based on that alone. Never mind the shitty story, sloppy script and poor characterizations. Snyder and Goyer seem to get it from what I've seen and we'll seemingly finally get the modern representation of what the character stands for in the comics and what his world is after 30 years of being neglected.
Then again I say this because unlike 99% of you cynical bastards I am a lifelong Superman comic book fan and because of that do know the awesomeness we are in store for. You people have no clue what a Superman movie is capable of being because the potential has been untapped. If they even got a fraction into the territory that the comic books explore though expect one of the GOATs and it seems like that's what they will end up doing.
Watchmen is one of my favorite stories ever. I don't have ADD. Once Upon A Time in America, The Deer Hunter and The Thin Red Line are 3 of my favorite movies ever and they will bore the shit out of most of you because they're highly talkative and character driven for almost 3 hours or more and you people aren't into film like that. Watchmen the movie was a shallow and misinformed adaptation of the material.
It wasn't a great adaptation because it misinterpreted a lot of the themes of the story and was filled with miscast and empty performances which is an area where it should've had much more depth. I admire what was done with bringing Rorschach and Doc Manhattan to life but it's a very dull wannabe cliffnotes version of Watchmen that makes it boring because it doesn't even acknowledge most of the things that make the book a classic to this day.
That movie was a wasted opportunity and in retrospect shouldn't have even been done. I'm not even a Snyder hater either. I'm one of the few people who enjoyed Sucker Punch & am rooting for him to show the world the Superman movie they have deserved since STM but Watchmen was material that completely flew over his head and the movie truly proves that.
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desertrain10;5851318 said:
I mentioned the bold before you did because it really does deserve to be mentioned in this conversation. Especially since most people just bring up bland ass superhero movies when this topic comes up. Props on bringing up Oldboy though. Ghost World is alright, I always felt it was overrated though. I couldn't get into Scott Pilgrim and I feel Hellboy 2 is even better than the original.
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Sucker Punch was aight I liked it more the first time I watched it, every time after I got more confused.
Supes is a boring ass hero period though. He doesn't have an engaging or affable personality, there's never any real drama or legitimate danger in anything related to Superman...so of course its shit. He has cool powers...that's pretty much it..I can get "cool powers" from anywhere.
I like Once Upon A Time in America too, mostly because I like DeNiro & James Woods, it was a good flick..copped it on DVD.
Supes is a boring ass hero period though. He doesn't have an engaging or affable personality, there's never any real drama or legitimate danger in anything related to Superman...so of course its shit. He has cool powers...that's pretty much it..I can get "cool powers" from anywhere.
I like Once Upon A Time in America too, mostly because I like DeNiro & James Woods, it was a good flick..copped it on DVD.
jono;5851428 said:
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But it's completely riddled in ignorance (as in not being familiar what you're talking about). I dislike Power Man and never felt shit for the Silver Surfer based on the comic books I own that they've featured in (classic Power Man and Iron Fist and Fantastic Four).
I won't say they suck though just because they never appealed to me. I never read their solo comics enough to get what others enjoyed about them so much so I just keep my mouth shut on the subject if it comes up.
Superman has faced legitimate danger and there is plenty of REAL drama and an engaging AND relateable (another common misconception being that he's unrelateable) personality. The clincher is that this has never really been seen OUTSIDE of the comic books because a lot of people that make other media don't understand Superman cause they never took the chance to really get to know him or his world (Ie: read decades worth of Superman comics). To say that those elements don't exist in anything related to Superman when it exists in the comic books is just straight up false.
I think the one thing I look forward to about MOS is the amount of crow so many ignorant people will eat once they finally get a glimpse at something closer to Superman comics and their universe on the big screen.
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A.J. Trillzynski
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in no order:
Superman/Superman II/Superman II The Donner Cut
Batman/Batman Returns
The Dark Knight 1-3
TMNT
Sin City
Road to Perdition
A History of Violence
Iron Man
Watchmen
Green Lantern
Superman/Superman II/Superman II The Donner Cut
Batman/Batman Returns
The Dark Knight 1-3
TMNT
Sin City
Road to Perdition
A History of Violence
Iron Man
Watchmen
Green Lantern
A.J. Trillzynski
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didn't know where else to put this, Dark Universe sounds dope and I'm holding out for the GL sequel if they stick to their promise to make it darker
http://www.toptenbestfilms.com/2013/05/10-upcoming-dc-comics-movies-to-expect.html
http://www.toptenbestfilms.com/2013/05/10-upcoming-dc-comics-movies-to-expect.html
Maximus Rex
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Broddie;5831622 said:
If you're counting the Metro North El and those four stops on the 1, 2, and 3 trains, then yes, Manhattan does have elevated trains, but not they were dipicting in the movie.
Cain1;5834097 said:
Nigga, you seriously think that The Avengers was hotter than The Dark Knight?
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
The proble with Sin City is that it tried to do too much. The focus should have been on one story as opposed to four. All four of those stories were good enough to be made into a stand alone movie by themselves, especially the one with the hoes. The stories seem to be a "mismosh," and left something to be desired. Also I care too much for the way the movie looked, just because a look for comic is hot in a film, doesn't necessarily mean it's going to translate that way on film, Sin City was too avant garde for my tastes.
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
Never read the book, with that being said, I have no point of reference as far as comparing it to the comic, but the movie was cool.
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
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Swiffness!;5849102 said:
I never saw either of the two movies you mentioned, (except for "Draggo," Punisher and I'm sure you weren't talking about that shit,) and I've also never read V for Vendetta
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
Agreed, when they were doing press for the Watchman, Alan Moore was on his typical "angry comic book creator," shit. He basically shit that he didn't intend for Watchmen to be a movie and it wouldn't translate well. After seeing the movie, I understood what he was talking about, but it was still a GOAT adaption and was extremely faithful to the source material. As I said earlier, I prefer the movie ending to the Moore's ending.
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Swiffness!;5849102 said:
Fuck out of here my nigga. They was going waaaay too hard for any homodom to be in that movie.
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
Have you read the book? Go read the books and see if you have the same opinion. Hit Girl alone is the GOAT
Broddie;5850561 said:
Can't believe that feelings that are being caught in this thread because ole emotional ass nigga's are upset that Rex didn't include their personal favorites. The irony is that this bitch made niggas are critical of Rex's choices, but (with the exception of two people,) have yet to submit a list of their own. Dumbass is critical of Kick Ass and Watchmen, but I have to ask did he even read the books, especially Kick Ass.
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
I was going through my computer yesterday and realized that I had First Class, so of course I watched it. One the strength of it being a movie, it was cool. January Jones, Zoe Kravitz, and especially Jennifer Lawrence, (tied with Kate Upton with being Rex's new favorite snow bunny) were fun to look at. Michael Fassbender did the fool as Magento, but I do care for Bryan Singer's interpretation of my favorite supehero team. The nigga just takes too many liberties with and makes needless changes to the source material. For example
Moria MacTaggert is Scottish and like Xavier is an expert on homosuperior. She isn't an American CIA agent. They could have just as easily made her a schoolmate of Xavier.
They put niggas in the Hellfire Club who weren't in the Hellfire Club and of course
Alex wasn't Scott's little brother.
Banshee wasn't a youngster. Actually when he joined the team he was in his 30's. Things would have worked for me better if he was in his 20's. Then there's a bunch of fanboy shit that bothered me. However, First Class (and it's subsequent success,) did prove several theories about superhero movies, (especially the X-Men,) false:
1) Superhero movies can't be period pieces.
2) You can't put superheros in costumes that resemble their uniforms in the comics.
3) Most importantly, muthafuckas won't see an X-Men movie without Wolverine in it.
Hopefully one day when Marvel gets the rights back to X-Men, (or when Fox reboots) it, well get a more accurate version of the X-Men with Scott, Jeanine, Warren, Bobby, and Hank as Xavier's first students.
Swiffness!;5849102 said:
Swiffness!;5849102 said:Out of my 1,970 comics this is my favorite story arch:
Nolan drew so many inspirations from Year One that he should have just made an adaption of it, instead of beginning inspired by it. Also Begins was too "villian heavy." Falcone, Ra, and especially The Scarecrow were strong enough protogonists to carry a movie by themselves. I would have prefered The Batman going after Gotham's criminal element and corruption, like in did in the book.
With Year One Part 1 begin my favorite comic in my entire collection. It's a very special book to me. Those last pages explains why Bruce is who he is and why he does what he does. On that first night out, Selina kicked his ass, he got stabbed and shot.
In front of the bust of his father, Bruce is literally bleeding talm 'bout, "Father I might have to die tonight. Unless I make them afraid." The nigga was prepared to die unless he figured out a way to get the necessary edge to put fear in Gotham's criminals, and Begins didn't have that this essential element in it. Had Nolan added this in the movie, shit would have been epic. Plus there was other shit I didn't care for, Rachel knowing Bruce was The Batman, Wayne Manor being destroyed, and the black suit. I've never liked ANY incarnation of the black suit. In the end, I've always felt that Begins wasn't that much better than Burton's first Batman movie.
LOL @ this dude. You flagged my list as wack cause it didn't feature some of your favorites first so lmao @ you being a hypocrite and playing that card. Only reason I spoke on your list after that is because I figured if you can dish criticism out you can also handle receiving it nh.
What does having read the book have to do with the actual quality of the movie you filthy animal? by the same token wtf does "faithfulness" have do with the quality of the movie itself? Look up what the word adaptation actually means sometime.
A History of Violence and Road to Perdition changed a lot from the source material and it didn't stop them from being solid adaptations. Where as Daredevil was very faithful to the works of Frank Miller and it was a complete piece of crap.
I have read Kick Ass for the record and probably read Watchmen before you ever knew what it even was, That has nothing to do with how mediocre the movies turned out. The only good thing about Kick Ass was Nic Cage's Adam West impression and his relationship with his movie daughter.
What does having read the book have to do with the actual quality of the movie you filthy animal? by the same token wtf does "faithfulness" have do with the quality of the movie itself? Look up what the word adaptation actually means sometime.
A History of Violence and Road to Perdition changed a lot from the source material and it didn't stop them from being solid adaptations. Where as Daredevil was very faithful to the works of Frank Miller and it was a complete piece of crap.
I have read Kick Ass for the record and probably read Watchmen before you ever knew what it even was, That has nothing to do with how mediocre the movies turned out. The only good thing about Kick Ass was Nic Cage's Adam West impression and his relationship with his movie daughter.
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Maximus Rex
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Broddie;5859257 said:
If I did, that's my bad.
I refused to answer that question as a matter of principle.
You just don't know good movies.
VulcanRaven
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Avengers
Batman
TDK
Ironman
Blade
Everything else after those
Batman
TDK
Ironman
Blade
Everything else after those
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jono;5851428 said:
I agree but seeing him fight Zod and the special effects in The Man of Steel should be entertaining.
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