Remy Ma - shEther (Nicki Minaj diss) She goes in

[5 Grand]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

Nosign.

If you perform somebody else's song ONCE you can get away with it. But best believe if you're doing a 40 city tour and you're performing somebody else's song at every show that whoever owns the publishing rights is going to file a cease and desist and sue you.

They're going to look at how much you make per show (say $20k) and how many songs are in your set (say 12) and demand to get $20k/12 songs = $1,667.00 and then probably split that in half so the performer gets $833 and whoever owns the publishing gets the other half, or $833.

There's no way in hell I'd let somebody do a 40 city tour and perform my song 40 times at arenas full of 20,000 people and not pay me. Especially when he's getting $20,000 per show to perform 12 songs, and one of those songs is mine!

 

[lamontbdc]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

Nosign.

If you perform somebody else's song ONCE you can get away with it. But best believe if you're doing a 40 city tour and you're performing somebody else's song at every show that whoever owns the publishing rights is going to file a cease and desist and sue you.

They're going to look at how much you make per show (say $20k) and how many songs are in your set (say 12) and demand to get $20k/12 songs = $1,667.00 and then probably split that in half so the performer gets $833 and whoever owns the publishing gets the other half, or $833.

There's no way in hell I'd let somebody do a 40 city tour and perform my song 40 times at arenas full of 20,000 people and not pay me. Especially when he's getting $20,000 per show to perform 12 songs, and one of those songs is mine!

I've seen the roots over 5 times and every time I've seen them they performed other artists songs. Am I to believe they only did when they were in DC? They paying homage.. Everybody knows it's somebodies else's track. Or how about all these cover bands that perform other folks music every night. you think they kicking checks back to those artists? Shit I just seen Joe and he performs Adele's song to end the show. I don't think he's kicking Adele profits out of his tour money

 

[lamontbdc]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

technically...

“Anyone who plays copyrighted music in a public establishment is required to obtain advanced permission from the copyright owner, or their representative.” A PRO, sometimes referred to as Performing Rights Society (PRS), is a licensing agent for songwriters and their music publishing companies, and it coordinates royalties for the appropriate parties.

However, the responsibility for procuring this license usually falls on the venue or organization hosting the band. Owners of performance venues purchase license agreements from one or all of the big PROs. In addition to SESAC, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI) also coordinate performance licensing for such venues.

So, if you perform cover songs at weddings or nightclubs, the venue would need to have the appropriate licensing agreement or face legal exposure. (The same obviously goes for venues hosting tribute bands—bands that cover many songs by the same bands.)

the music business is a tricky one.

ok this sounds about right. I wonder how closely this shit is followed...I know some janky ass promoters and venue owners

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How is it 2017 and these MFs in the rap industry still don't understand you can't just make money off of other people's shit?

 

[i ro ny]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

technically...

“Anyone who plays copyrighted music in a public establishment is required to obtain advanced permission from the copyright owner, or their representative.” A PRO, sometimes referred to as Performing Rights Society (PRS), is a licensing agent for songwriters and their music publishing companies, and it coordinates royalties for the appropriate parties.

However, the responsibility for procuring this license usually falls on the venue or organization hosting the band. Owners of performance venues purchase license agreements from one or all of the big PROs. In addition to SESAC, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI) also coordinate performance licensing for such venues.

So, if you perform cover songs at weddings or nightclubs, the venue would need to have the appropriate licensing agreement or face legal exposure. (The same obviously goes for venues hosting tribute bands—bands that cover many songs by the same bands.)

the music business is a tricky one.

ok this sounds about right. I wonder how closely this shit is followed...I know some janky ass promoters and venue owners

about as closely as bars/lounges that dont have jukebox machines...

shit changes when the licensor and/or publishing house of the music starts giving a fuck.

 

[sapp08_2001]

How is it 2017 and these MFs in the rap industry still don't understand you can't just make money off of other people's shit?

Uh looks like Desiigner is doing just fine with it

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How is it 2017 and these MFs in the rap industry still don't understand you can't just make money off of other people's shit?

Uh looks like Desiigner is doing just fine with it

Hey, you can make money doing your best impression of someone. You just can't use their actual material without their permission.

 

[MR.CJ]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

technically...

“Anyone who plays copyrighted music in a public establishment is required to obtain advanced permission from the copyright owner, or their representative.” A PRO, sometimes referred to as Performing Rights Society (PRS), is a licensing agent for songwriters and their music publishing companies, and it coordinates royalties for the appropriate parties.

However, the responsibility for procuring this license usually falls on the venue or organization hosting the band. Owners of performance venues purchase license agreements from one or all of the big PROs. In addition to SESAC, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI) also coordinate performance licensing for such venues.

So, if you perform cover songs at weddings or nightclubs, the venue would need to have the appropriate licensing agreement or face legal exposure. (The same obviously goes for venues hosting tribute bands—bands that cover many songs by the same bands.)

the music business is a tricky one.

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

Nosign.

If you perform somebody else's song ONCE you can get away with it. But best believe if you're doing a 40 city tour and you're performing somebody else's song at every show that whoever owns the publishing rights is going to file a cease and desist and sue you.

They're going to look at how much you make per show (say $20k) and how many songs are in your set (say 12) and demand to get $20k/12 songs = $1,667.00 and then probably split that in half so the performer gets $833 and whoever owns the publishing gets the other half, or $833.

There's no way in hell I'd let somebody do a 40 city tour and perform my song 40 times at arenas full of 20,000 people and not pay me. Especially when he's getting $20,000 per show to perform 12 songs, and one of those songs is mine!

Facts

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

But you can get sued for performing someone else shit

 

[trendsetta1030]

http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/08/nicki-minaj-not-responding-remy-ma-diss-track/

Looks like Nicki Minaj is trying to lull everyone to sleep while she plots her lyrical revenge against Remy Ma for dissing her on "Shether."

According to TMZ, sources close to Nicki say the song is full of lies that don't warrant a response ... at least not yet.

During the nearly seven minute diss Remy lobs bombs at Nicki by claiming her butt is fake, has slept with Trey Songz, Lil Wayne and Drake. In addition, Remy said the "Super Bass" rapper had songs ghostwritten for her by Safaree Samuels, used cocaine, bullied Miley Cyrus, Mariah Carey and Taylor Swift because she knew they wouldn't fire back and more.

Meanwhile, Nicki has kept busy by recently making a splash during Paris Fashion Week and collaborating on songs with Future and Gucci Mane.

She may clap back at Remy sometime in the future, but feels like she's winning the battle so far by remaining silent.

After years of saying she's the best and that all these rap bitches were her sons and all that......she's not gonna respond.

That ain't hip hop.

When she said that, she meant they were adopted. She was just babysitting until a true female emcee came along.

Remy been out for over a decade bruh.

Remy been in prison for over half a decade bruh.

She also dropped an album.

Nobody was checking for her here. She had her fans but nothing major. But now since she dissed a person that ppl hate she's the best? Naw.

If nobody was checkin 4 shorty befa bra how you kno of her 2 kno she been out that long… either you was watchin or did research…

Drake will always be bigger then meek in Hollywood … correct… but drake will never be bigger then meek in the hood…

Nikky not responding she scare that it will either make her or brake her she's not gon respond direct jus bunch subliminal up a head…

 

[trendsetta1030]

So Nikki had Nas shut down the Shether?

Can't perform it publicly and removed from Soundcloud?

Fake News. Still on Spotify, still available for sale on iTunes. Check for yourself and you'll see.

If it was taken off SoundCloud then I would assume it was by Remy and it was because she wasn't getting paid.

yeah i hope nas didn't do that. i know that would cause a rift between him and joe

I don't think does 2 been koo fa while

 

[5 Grand]

Are we seriously discussing this ridiculous rumor?

There is no way to stop someone from performing a freestyle over an instrumental. In case you culture vultures didn't know, it happens at Radio stations across the country everyday. At least it used to.

And even if it was, this isn't Empire and Nicki Minaj isn't Cookie. Common sense would tell you neither Nas nor Ron Brownz would get involved in this way.

Exactly. It's the reason go go can do what they do. Have you niggas never been to a concert and the artist performs somebody else's song? You can't copyright/trademark a live performance.

technically...

“Anyone who plays copyrighted music in a public establishment is required to obtain advanced permission from the copyright owner, or their representative.” A PRO, sometimes referred to as Performing Rights Society (PRS), is a licensing agent for songwriters and their music publishing companies, and it coordinates royalties for the appropriate parties.

However, the responsibility for procuring this license usually falls on the venue or organization hosting the band. Owners of performance venues purchase license agreements from one or all of the big PROs. In addition to SESAC, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI) also coordinate performance licensing for such venues.

So, if you perform cover songs at weddings or nightclubs, the venue would need to have the appropriate licensing agreement or face legal exposure. (The same obviously goes for venues hosting tribute bands—bands that cover many songs by the same bands.)

the music business is a tricky one.

ok this sounds about right. I wonder how closely this shit is followed...I know some janky ass promoters and venue owners

about as closely as bars/lounges that dont have jukebox machines...

shit changes when the licensor and/or publishing house of the music starts giving a fuck.

Actually when you walk in a bar or club they have a sticker at the front of the door, similar to the sticker that banks have on the front door. The sticker means they belong to ASCAP or BMI and they pay a monthly fee to play published music.

 

[Nah Son]

Soooo who won this shit? Damn this beef died down quickly

Seems like Remy couldnt capitalize off this and faded back into Bolivia

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Soooo who won this shit? Damn this beef died down quickly

Seems like Remy couldnt capitalize off this and faded back into Bolivian​

Fixed that for you fam.

 

[R.D.]

Of course she didnt

Dickriders don't care once it's not the poppin topic anymore

 

[water ur seeds]

Seems Nicki managed to throw water on the fire, I dont think Remy should of dropped that second diss so quickly...

 

[mike06]

niggas really wanted to see Remy PERFORM her diss track in concert?

i'd rather see her twerk to it lmao

 

[moyo]

Seems Nicki managed to throw water on the fire, I dont think Remy should of dropped that second diss so quickly...

In hindsight, that's where she hurt herself at. If she wouldn't have dropped "Another one" and left the ball in Nicki's court, she would have won by a landslide and made Nicki look horribly. But droppin "Another one" so quickly and it kinda bein a dud, in actuality hurt the momentum from "shether" and made herself look as thirsty and jealous as Nicki claimed. Nicki's response was trash, but weathered the storm due to Rem jumpin the gun.

 

[NoCompetition]

I instantly thought shether was embarrassing and it was cringe worthy like It had that feeling the portion I heard. It never impressed me and was an obvious attention ploy. It just took some a while to catch up and figure it out. Also the Nicki line about leaving your kids over a stack...that was stronger than any of the forgettable corniness Remy may have said. Due to real life burn. People know it too just grudgingly had to accept it if they aint like Nicki and aint even try to deny it. Remy aint do sht.but she succeeded in getting people talking about her. Simple people were even impressed for a second till they figured it out and that was over. Everybody seems to know what time it is at this point.

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

So this is Dead and Remy fell back shit is sad could have been a good one for HipHop if it played out longer...