Reasonable doubt vs ILLmatic: which has aged better?

[pop duke]

reasonable doubt is a 7/10 a good album and jay z's best by far only reason jay z stan's try to say it's classic is cos it's jay's best album ever but it's a good album with dope songs like 'can't knock the hustle' but also very weak songs like 'cashmere thought's the best aspect of the album was the production it was a well produced album jay z was flowing his best on the album what he is best at but it's an album that sound's boring and does not have the replay value to be a near classic but it's a good album

chuuch!!!!

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Reasonable doubt

 

[pop duke]

ILLmatic is hiphop's thriller. The Only hiphop albums that should be mentioned alongside ILLmatic be "It takes a Million" & "Paid in full". End of story.

This is definitely true in terms of impact & the quality of music just minus da sales ofcourse. And to sum it up Mumo any & everybody atleast 35 yrs old will agree,d#mn near anybody under 35 yrs will prolly disagree. Educate urselves ppl; Illmatic is hiphop's ultimate classic. Just ask ur favorite rapper u don't have to take my word

 

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

This is definitely true in terms of impact & the quality of music just minus da sales ofcourse. And to sum it up Mumo any & everybody atleast 35 yrs old will agree,d#mn near anybody under 35 yrs will prolly disagree. Educate urselves ppl; Illmatic is hiphop's ultimate classic. Just ask ur favorite rapper u don't have to take my word

Nigga fuck outta here with that ageism bullshit!!!
I'm under 35 and think illmatic is easily top 5 hiphop albums of all time. The question was which has aged better which in itself is subjective.
I agree with everything dropped in post #2 though,

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Illmatic, But reasonable doubt is one of my favorite albums also

 

[KeepinItHundred]

ny state of mind, life's a bitch, the world is yours, memory lane, one love, and it ain't hard to tell are some of the greatest hip hop songs ever.

halftime, one time, and represent are classics but not on the level of the others

dead presidents, can i live, regrets, devils, feelin it, bring it on, can't knock the hustle are some of the greatest hip hop songs as well.

the rest of the songs are better than half time, represent and onetime for your mind, except for ain't no nigga.

so overall rd is better, partly because it was recorded in 95/96 and illmatic was recorded 92/93, before production became more superior(1995).

 

[CoolJoe]

I still bump both relatively regularly.

Illmatic does sound slightly dated though.

2 of the top 3 records in hip hop history though.

 

[mryounggun]

RD. This isn't even close. Illmatic sounds dated as hell with the production AND the flow (not that the flow wasn't immaculate).

 

[pop duke]

Nigga fuck outta here with that ageism bullshit!!!

I'm under 35 and think illmatic is easily top 5 hiphop albums of all time. The question was which has aged better which in itself is subjective.

I agree with everything dropped in post #2 though,

Ageism bullshit??? N*cca I can already tell U a YOUNG ass,hatin ass,uneducated ass,donkey of da day ass........15 yr old. And that's Y U caught feelings!! Listen lil n*cca,I stand by what I said & it obviously applies to yo ass so if da shoe fit homie,wear it & make sure ya bra & panties match. Dis is what I was talkin about Mumo,a bunch of youngins speakin on dis h.hop ish dat don't know ish. Dat's Y da convo is fuk'd up cause it isn't balanced. A bunch of Danielson's & very few Mr Myagi's

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Illmatic is Illmatic but Reasonable Doubt has aged better. Ppl still Rapping to the Dead President Beat, Can I Live, and Feeling it.

And people are still doing Illmatic tributes etc.

 

[tompetrez3]

RD aint no goddamn classic. Jay Z just reminded you niggas 10 years ago on BP1 that RD even existed. whats so timeless about a nigga rapping off beat about the subjects and images that would ruin hip hop. now everybody is a hustler who just happens to rap. every body got a uncomfirmed/untraceable backstory about selling big dope. everybody can lose shiploads of crystalized cocaine from ecuador but somehow find studio time to rap about it. raekwon gave these niggas a inch and they sprinted a mile with it. nas guilty of it too so is biggie. nas was just a poet on his first album but then he became escobar. biggie was all depressed, hungry and sucidal living in a one room shack on RTD but on LAD he became frank white jumping over coffee tables got MW3 sized guns deflectin bullets like captain america. RD was one of the albums that catapulted rap into a wasteland. fuck no its not a classic

 

[verbal juke]

I have to go with Illmatic on this one...

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Tomp is the only dude whose rants i read

 

[Chasin Benjis]

Lol lemme find out Tomp has self proclaimed stans.. smh

RD >>>>> Illmatic

 

[KeepinItHundred]

Lol lemme find out Tomp has self proclaimed stans.. smh

RD >>>>> Illmatic

it's better overall, i agree. but the one thing nas has over jay is he has that pure hip hop classic that jay doesn't have. biggie also doesn't have that either.

 

[makaveli4ever]

I honestly think both have aged remarkably well. Illmatic is better lyrically. RD production is insane

 

[southsil4lil]

Two of my favorite cds, both classics but I would go with RD. More replay value imo......And Tomp is the funniest poster on IC.

Oh yea whoever said the Firm cd was better than The Black Album is trippin

 

[DarkRaiden]

Illmatic and that's a fact. Say anything else and you lost your hip hop pass forever. Reasonable Doubt didn't bump when it was made, and it doesn't bump now. It's overrated and not even Jay's best album.

 

[makaveli4ever]

Illmatic and that's a fact. Say anything else and you lost your hip hop pass forever. Reasonable Doubt didn't bump when it was made, and it doesn't bump now. It's overrated and not even Jay's best album.

Yeah the blueprint is.

 

[ShencotheMC]

it's better overall, i agree. but the one thing nas has over jay is he has that pure hip hop classic that jay doesn't have. biggie also doesn't have that either.

Pure hip-hop classic? Wtf? Y'all niggas stay trynna downplay someone with dumb shit