Reasonable doubt vs ILLmatic: which has aged better?

[Wonderland]

Illmatic, RD has no replay value.

1 of the Albums that lacks any replay value in history hasn't aged well at all but is Jay's best work by far

As far as Flow Jay Z was at his best and did what he known for on the Album Flowing good

 

[bigtim5099]

So tell me, how is Illmatic off the chain lyrically? Personally, it doesnt hold a candle to RD in terms of double entendres and catching the bars years down the road, so post some lyrics throughout the album that you wont catch for years later? Jay is a genius on the mic and he'll say some stuff that you wont catch for years down the road and Nas is not that type of lyricist.. I think some of yall cats be just repeating what yall hear..

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

So tell me, how is Illmatic off the chain lyrically? Personally, it doesnt hold a candle to RD in terms of double entendres and catching the bars years down the road, so post some lyrics throughout the album that you wont catch for years later? Jay is a genius on the mic and he'll say some stuff that you wont catch for years down the road and Nas is not that type of lyricist.. I think some of yall cats be just repeating what yall hear..

Right, right, what up niggaz, how y'all, it's Nasty the villian
I'm still writin rhymes but besides that I'm chillin
I'm trying to get this money, God, you know the hard times, kid
Shit, cold be starvin make you wanna do crimes kid
But I'ma lamp, cuz a crime couldn't beat a rhyme
Niggaz catching 3 to 9's, Muslims yelling free the mind
And I'm from Queensbridge, been to many places
as a kid when I would say that out of town, niggaz chased us
But now I know the time, got a older mind
Plus control a nine, fine, see now I represent mine
I'm new on the rap scene, brothers never heard of me
Yet I'm a meance, yo, police wanna murder me
Heine(ken) Dark drinker, represent the thinker
My pen rides the paper, it even has blinkers
Think I'll dim the lights then inhale, it stimulates
Floating like I'm on the North 95 Interstate
Never plan to stop, when I write my hand is hot
And expand alot from the Wiz to Camelot
The parlayer, I'll make ya heads bop Pah
I shine a light on perpetrators like a cop's car
From day to night, I play the mic and you'll thank God
I wreck shit so much, the microphone'll need a paint job
My brain is incarcerated
Live at any jam, I couldn't count all the parks I raided
I hold a Mac-11, and attack the Reverand
I contact 11 L's and max in heaven

Nas on one time for ya mind.

some people don't even catch the car metaphor in this verse.

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

The fuck? Illmatic has aged better. You have rappers saying their album is the next illmatic, not fucking the next reasonable doubt.

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This

 

[bigtim5099]

Dude, you have to be an idiot to not catch the car reference, come on dude, are you serious?? Illmatic was simple lyrically, not off the chain. Personification is cute and all, but it is for 8th graders. And it doessnt take long to catch.. And U know it..

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Bruh did you call it personification? Ok then....

 

[ItzGravitation]

Illmatic doesnt have one song better than Devils
Dead Presidents

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Dude, you have to be an idiot to not catch the car reference, come on dude, are you serious?? Illmatic was simple lyrically, not off the chain. Personification is cute and all, but it is for 8th graders. And it doessnt take long to catch.. And U know it..

i think more so illmatic is held in high regards lyrically because of it's complex rhyme schemes. u seem to be catchin feelins bruh.

 

[king hassan]

I have to go with "Ilmatic" and it made me go find those soul and jazz samples!

 

[Mumo X]

So are you gonna answer the question or not? lmfao

what question? Why we comparin a masterpiece record that had a huge impact and changed the game to a forced classic?

 

[longmeat]

Neither sound dated to me. I'll 90 years old in a nursing home still vibing to politics as usual and it ain't hard to tell.

 

[Wonderland]

Jay Z's Catalouge

Reasonable Doubt - 7/10

Volume 1- 4/10

Volume 2 - 3/10

Volume 3 - 2/10

The Dynasty - 1.5/10

The Blueprint - 6/10

The Blueprint 2 - 1/10

The Black Album - 5.5/10

Kingdome Come - 1/10

American Gangster - 4.5/10

The Blueprint 3 - - 1/10

Best Of Both World's - 4/10

The Best Of Both World's 2 - 2/10

Watch The Throne - 5/10

Nas Catalouge

Illmatic - 10/10

It Was Witten - 9/10

I Am - 4/10

Nastradamus - 1.5/10

Stillmatic - 8/10

God's Son - 5/10

Street's Disciple - 1/10

Hip Hop Is Derad - 2/10

Untitled - 6.5/10

The Lost Tapes - 8.5/10

QB's Finest - 5/10

The Firm - - 7/10

Distant Relatives - 7.5/10

 

[Wonderland]

Jay Z has the better Flow, Delivery and much better Beat Selection and Hit making ability

Nas is the better Artist/Lyricist/Song Writer/Emcee and is the better Story Teller, more creative, much more Emotional/Personal and Substance

 

[Wonderland]

Battle wise Nas destroyed Jay Z with 'Ether'

 

[infamous114]

On production, Reasonable Doubt has aged better (still prefer Illmatic though)

 

[Wonderland]

what question? Why we comparin a masterpiece record that had a huge impact and changed the game to a forced classic?

Reasonable Doubt is a 7/10 a good Album and Jay Z's best by far only reason Jay Z stan's try to say it's classic is cos it's Jay's best Album ever but it's a good Album with dope Songs like 'Can't Knock The Hustle' but also very weak Songs like 'Cashmere Thought's the best aspect of the Album was the Production it was a well Produced Album Jay Z was Flowing his best on the Album what he is best at but it's an Album that sound's boring and does not have the replay value to be a near classic but it's a good Album

 

[Wonderland]

Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, The Lost Tapes, The Firm, Distant Relatives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reasonable Doubt

'NY State Of Mind', Memory Lane' Life's A Bitch' 'Ine Love' 'Represent' 'It Ain't Hard To Tell' ''One Time' 'Halftime' 'The World Is Yours' 'The Genesis'>>>>>>>>>Any Jay Z Song

 

[Wonderland]

Every collab Nas and Jay Z have done Nas has outshined Jay Z Lyrically

All Jay Z does is Flow but Nas actual Writes Thought Provking Lyrics get's Deep and put's Emotion and Passion in his Music

 

[...MVP...]

Jay Z's Catalouge

Reasonable Doubt - 7/10
Volume 1- 4/10
Volume 2 - 3/10
Volume 3 - 2/10
The Dynasty - 1.5/10
The Blueprint - 6/10
The Blueprint 2 - 1/10
The Black Album - 5.5/10
Kingdome Come - 1/10
American Gangster - 4.5/10
The Blueprint 3 - - 1/10

Best Of Both World's - 4/10
The Best Of Both World's 2 - 2/10
Watch The Throne - 5/10

Nas Catalouge

Illmatic - 10/10
It Was Witten - 9/10
I Am - 4/10
Nastradamus - 1.5/10
Stillmatic - 8/10
God's Son - 5/10
Street's Disciple - 1/10
Hip Hop Is Derad - 2/10
Untitled - 6.5/10

The Lost Tapes - 8.5/10
QB's Finest - 5/10
The Firm - - 7/10
Distant Relatives - 7.5/10

When I first came to the IC I found that u and I actually agreed on quite a few things, such as the importance of content and subject matter in rap music.
But over time being here, I have come to the conclusion that you are incredibly insane...

 

[infamous114]

When I first came to the IC I found that u and I actually agreed on quite a few things, such as the importance of content and subject matter in rap music.
But over time being here, I have come to the conclusion that you are incredibly insane...

yo ignore her....