Reason Debate: "I don't care if you can rap or not, as long as you can make good music"

[The Recipe]

The rap music I consider good, has "good" rapping on it.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Depends on situation

Most of the niggas folks on here say cant rap that others say make good music also excel at another piece of rap, just not the lyrical aspect, for example Gucci has a nice flow, ehh idk I'm just talking, I like good songs, if they can rappity rap too. great!

 

[kzzl]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

 

[Beta]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

I wouldnt say good myself but y'all think it it is....

Future

 

[5th Letter]

Interesting...

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

I personally think he is the definition of BFI but I've seen folks give fetty wap props

 

[supergangster]

Wait I dont understand the question. How can you make great music if you cannot rap?

 

[Cutler 26 INT's LOL!]

Depends the mood im in honestly.

 

[ChillaDaKilla]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

I wouldnt say good myself but y'all think it it is....

Future

Heres my thing with Future if

He didn't have a strong ear for production would he even have the same hype ?

 

[Beta]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

I wouldnt say good myself but y'all think it it is....

Future

Heres my thing with Future if

He didn't have a strong ear for production would he even have the same hype ?

Obviously not

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

The issue with this many times is someone has sub par rap skills and you claim they make "good music" then the credit most times is to the producer. Which i feel is an issue in rap. People claim so and so makes good music but they don't produce the track or apply the in most cases effects that a producer or sound engineer creates. So really that rapper has limited talent and a great production team.

In the 90s and 2000's hit makers like Nelly and Luda had hits that were not super lyrical but they wrote bars that were well planned and catchy. That takes skill. The issue nowadays is the some of the so called hit makers are mumbling sub par hooks and have no writing skills or variety to the hits. The reason the song is hot is because the producer did all the work.

 

[P. Town]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

Kanye West

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

I wouldnt say good myself but y'all think it it is....

Future

Heres my thing with Future if

He didn't have a strong ear for production would he even have the same hype ?

Production is a key part of a good song

 

[5th Letter]

Good music is subjective so even if the rapper can't spit if the individual is feeling the music then the lyrics don't matter.

 

[BackInWhite]

At this point there is no argument

Same number of rings

Better stats

Won against the so called best team ever

I don't see how niggas is still saying otherwise

What will it take?

 

[_Lefty]

Whos even an example of an artist that can't rap, but makes good rap music?

Nellyville. Pretty decent album. Lyrically, woat.

 

[Chi Snow]

If you label the music as rap/hip hop then the rapping better be good. (Cole, Kendrick, Pusha etc)

If you just making pop music in which you happen to rap (Drake, Future, Ye, Rae Sremmurd etc) I won't knock you.

Just call what you do what it is, POP, popular or popping, music

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Kanye and Nelly can rap, they shouldn't be named in here

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

It depends. I fuck wit Jeezy cuz I like his music but you'll never hear me argue that he's a good rapper. I know on his greatest day he's just average at best but I like the music.

 

[kzzl]

Rap isn't just about having great lyrics. It's the very distinctive way in which you deliver those lyrics. Them being exceptional lyrist isnt the defining factor, it's just an advantage.

A person that can't rap doesn't grasp the basic song structure of a rap song and so can't make good rap music.

Eazy E in his first attempt in SOC is what people that can't rap look like and stay like. Silk The Shocker is arguably another. Look at the mistakes rappers make in studio footage and have to do retakes for. Folks that can't recognize or correct that stuff are people that can't rap.