Real talk... What was so special about Boyz II Men?

[YungHeartLess5]

They're legends... Yes there were better bands out there but that doesn't take away from what they accomplished.

 

[focus]

They could sing really good.

 

[mrjun18]

They're legends... Yes there were better bands out there but that doesn't take away from what they accomplished.

what makes them legends in your opinion?

 

[YungHeartLess5]

Their debut is classic, some would argue the follow up is too... You yourself say they had tons of hits and even went diamond... I should be asking you why do you feel they aren't legends

 

[marie addams]

the harmonies were pristine

 

[Super Lex]

They could sing really good.

Basically. Their harmonizing is second to none.

 

[Aztec_Kang]

im not much of an r and b cat but MotownPhilly and In the Still of the Night were my shit back then. Motownphilly was a really cool song at the time. i must have been like 11 back then but i remember it having a new type of sound to that song. And they made me aware of the song in the Still of the Night which is an og classic. I think they had a certain style of dress that became popular around that time also like the preppy urban look but can't remember that too much.

 

[Mr. R&B]

I know you ain't hating and neither am I when I say: WOW@this thread title and calling Boyz II Men overrated. Wow.

Their singing, songwriting (they've written and produced many of their songs, especially Shawn and Wanya), harmonizing, quality of music, ability to make an old song sound brand new, awards and sales speak for themselves. Not to mention, how they can sing the shit out of a Capella like no other.

And Evolution is one of my favorite R&B albums of all time. For me, it's their best. II being a close second. These guys were/are the whole package and the real deal. In no way, shape or form are they overrated. They've done everything an R&B artist should do and more. Just my two cents.

 

[Ibex]

Motownphilly...

 

[Violent Words]

Jodeci was better... YES I SAID IT!

 

[bless the child]

Jodeci was better... YES I SAID IT!

Jodeci was a contrast to them, I wouldnt say they were better but they were a nice alternative.

To answer the threadstarter though, they could sing...and their classic songs are better than anything any artist not named R kelly has put out in the past 10-15 years.

 

[detcatinva]

Jodeci was a contrast to them, I wouldnt say they were better but they were a nice alternative.

To answer the threadstarter though, they could sing...and their classic songs are better than anything any artist not named R kelly has put out in the past 10-15 years.

jodeci was better to me IMO and it came down to Devante. His ability to write songs and produce songs were amazing. I still listen to the show the afterparty the hotel atleast once a week

 

[Mr. R&B]

Jodeci was better... YES I SAID IT!

Jodeci was... Different. They were the "bad boys" of R&B groups.

No way, in my opinion, did their vocals or range top Boyz II Men's, though. I also find that Boyz II Men put out more quality music.

Not taking anything away from Jodeci, I was always a fan. But, Boyz II Men were/are on another level.

 

[tab58064]

Now before anybody tries to bring up some facts on me like I ain't grow up on Boyz II Men...Please don't even try. I mean their first two albums were cool (The original 10 track "Cooleyhigh.." I always liked, while "II" was always just average to me), but everything after that was either mediocre or worse. They had great harmony but also a good amount of dull/repetitive material.

Okay, so Babyface wrote them a lot of hits that were successful on pop charts and they have a diamond album or two, because of that.....but musically and talent wise, what was so great about them? I always thought (and still think) these boys were overrated and other 90's male groups/bands in their era were just better than them, though nobody else sold as much and had the the same level of success as BIIM did.

What y'all think?

*And this is NOT a hate thread*

The were great singer, but I just never could into their shit like so many others. Some of their music was down right depressing IMO!!

 

[mrjun18]

I know you ain't hating and neither am I when I say: WOW@this thread title and calling Boyz II Men overrated. Wow.

Their singing, songwriting (they've written and produced many of their songs, especially Shawn and Wanya), harmonizing, quality of music, ability to make an old song sound brand new, awards and sales speak for themselves. Not to mention, how they can sing the shit out of a Capella like no other.

And Evolution is one of my favorite R&B albums of all time. For me, it's their best. II being a close second. These guys were/are the whole package and the real deal. In no way, shape or form are they overrated. They've done everything an R&B artist should do and more. Just my two cents.

Sorry homie, but Evolution had too much filler. especially the 2nd half and most of the uptempo.....They ran out of gas when that sh1t dropped.

Jodeci was better... YES I SAID IT!

Thank You. I definitely agree with this. always have, and they always will be. Boyz II Men has the longevity and sales, but musically, and talent wise, there isn't a comparison. Boyz II might have also had a better harmony, but Jodeci's was just more soulful IMO.

The were great singer, but I just never could into their shit like so many others. Some of their music was down right depressing IMO!!

This is exactly how I feel.....End of the Road, I'll Make Love to You, Bended Knee....Many of the songs sounded similar to each other. I liked them a bit, but many songs just sounded too identical.

 

[Mrslim1]

Boys II Men is the only group post Motown era that you can even compare to the great groups of that era.

 

[Mr. R&B]

Sorry homie, but Evolution had too much filler. especially the 2nd half and most of the uptempo.....They ran out of gas when that sh1t dropped.

Nah. I disagree. I didn't hear any filler on that album. It's one of the albums I've played the most and, till this day, I can listen to every song. That album showed a lot of growth and maturity. The "Boyz" had officially become "Men" on Evolution (such a fitting title).

There were definitely tracks that stood out more than others. But, overall, great fucking CD.

Boys II Men is the only group post Motown era that you can even compare to the great groups of that era.

Close thread.

 

[kAjUn]

I honestly prefer Jodeci music more just because of their style, but no way they were more talented than Boyz II Men. I mean everybody has their preference on who they like more, but far as singing/harmonizing?

Boyz II Men hands down.

 

[kAjUn]

[video=youtube;YgtByWlBSdA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgtByWlBSdA[/video]

This right here.........!!!!!

 

[mrjun18]

Boys II Men is the only group post Motown era that you can even compare to the great groups of that era.

false. not saying they are on the same level, but as far as musicianship, the tonyies and mint condition can be compared to the older bands as well.... (o'jays, ewf, the ohio players, tower of power etc...).

new edition can be compared too.

Nah. I disagree. I didn't hear any filler on that album. It's one of the albums I've played the most and, till this day, I can listen to every song. That album showed a lot of growth and maturity. The "Boyz" had officially become "Men" on Evolution (such a fitting title).

There were definitely tracks that stood out more than others. But, overall, great fucking CD.

really?, nah bro, that album had mad filler. "girl in the life magazine"? "baby come on", "c'mon", "human ii", ---all filler.... that's apart of the main reason they fell off so hard right after the II album was so successful and good. people started to get tired of them around 1997 or so and the album wasnt living up to what they were known for before. sales dropped from 10+mill, to just over 2 mill (which is still good, but a damn big difference). etc..

kci and jojo who were always in boyz ii mens shadows while in jodeci, had finally stepped to the forefront in 1997 when they dropped the "love always" album, which IMO i think is easily better than evolution.

I honestly prefer Jodeci music more just because of their style, but no way they were more talented than Boyz II Men. I mean everybody has their preference on who they like more, but far as singing/harmonizing?

Boyz II Men hands down.

talent is just singing now? what about songwriting? instrumentation? arranging and producing? etc. who in boyz ii men could talk to devante or dalvin in terms of being musically multi-talented? have you seen the production and songwriting credits that devante has done? have you seen dalvin on the drums before...? talent wise, jodeci >> boyz ii men.....

no comparison. boyz ii men was not even in the top 3 in talents groups of their era....

i'll give you the singing and harmonizing, but thats not it when it comes to musicanship. and again, this is not a hate thread y'all. lol.