Rapper Ranking Project: Rapper #4 - Nas

[power_wisdom]

Plenty of people said 50 was their favorite in his heyday, and while long term Nas probably wins out. There was a short time when 50 was in the limelight to a larger degree than Nas ever has been. It's not necessarily a good thing, but he pretty much made beef and dissension the "in" thing in NYC for a while.

Actually when Ether dropped Nas had the throne for about a year. This was before GRODT. Eminem had more pop appeal and sold more records, but amongst Hip Hop heads Nas owned 2002.

He released 3 classics in the span of one year (Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, God's Son)

True, like I said, the most shine Nas has ever gotten was as a result of his battle with Jay. And by shine, I'm just talking about general acclaim. Hardcore HipHop fans have always given him his due.

Wrong Nas got more shine off If I ruled the world. Nas was ice cold in 2000 and people still was waiting for an album. That's why Jay went after him, either though he wasn't even popping at the time. People are still patiently waiting on a Nas album. Can you say that about 50 Cent. Do the same amount of people really care right now. And he sold more records at one time than Nas. But a Nas album is more anticipated with out a single out, then a 50 cent or G-Unit. That impact when people are fiending for a album after 5 years of very little to no music.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Plenty of people said 50 was their favorite in his heyday, and while long term Nas probably wins out. There was a short time when 50 was in the limelight to a larger degree than Nas ever has been. It's not necessarily a good thing, but he pretty much made beef and dissension the "in" thing in NYC for a while.

Actually when Ether dropped Nas had the throne for about a year. This was before GRODT. Eminem had more pop appeal and sold more records, but amongst Hip Hop heads Nas owned 2002.

He released 3 classics in the span of one year (Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, God's Son)

True, like I said, the most shine Nas has ever gotten was as a result of his battle with Jay. And by shine, I'm just talking about general acclaim. Hardcore HipHop fans have always given him his due.

Wrong Nas got more shine off If I ruled the world. Nas was ice cold in 2000 and people still was waiting for an album. That's why Jay went after him, either though he wasn't even popping at the time. People are still patiently waiting on a Nas album. Can you say that about 50 Cent. Do the same amount of people really care right now. And he sold more records at one time than Nas. But a Nas album is more anticipated with out a single out, then a 50 cent or G-Unit. That impact when people are fiending for a album after 5 years of very little to no music.

I wouldn't say Nas got more shine off If I Ruled the World. People still debated who won and whether Ether was the greatest diss track for years. Then it set up the two of them working together, which was a big thing. All of that was bigger than If I Ruled the World. For that song he got the shine that artists typically get for hit singles. The battle with Jigga has gone beyond that. It's one of the biggest moments in Hip Hop ever.

Nas still makes good music. 50 mostly just trolls on social media. Of course more people anticipate a Nas album. If 50 had continued to hone is craft and not relied on beef and gimmicks to stay ready, he probably would have maintained a fanbase that kept him relevant musically too. That said, I still stand by the belief that at a time 50 damn near single handedly changed NYC rap culture (arguably for the worse). Nas' music was always highly respected, and it inspired other rappers to do better, but there was never really a time where the industry moved based on how Nas move. Nobody was changing record release dates because Nas was dropping.

 

[power_wisdom]

Plenty of people said 50 was their favorite in his heyday, and while long term Nas probably wins out. There was a short time when 50 was in the limelight to a larger degree than Nas ever has been. It's not necessarily a good thing, but he pretty much made beef and dissension the "in" thing in NYC for a while.

Actually when Ether dropped Nas had the throne for about a year. This was before GRODT. Eminem had more pop appeal and sold more records, but amongst Hip Hop heads Nas owned 2002.

He released 3 classics in the span of one year (Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, God's Son)

True, like I said, the most shine Nas has ever gotten was as a result of his battle with Jay. And by shine, I'm just talking about general acclaim. Hardcore HipHop fans have always given him his due.

Wrong Nas got more shine off If I ruled the world. Nas was ice cold in 2000 and people still was waiting for an album. That's why Jay went after him, either though he wasn't even popping at the time. People are still patiently waiting on a Nas album. Can you say that about 50 Cent. Do the same amount of people really care right now. And he sold more records at one time than Nas. But a Nas album is more anticipated with out a single out, then a 50 cent or G-Unit. That impact when people are fiending for a album after 5 years of very little to no music.

I wouldn't say Nas got more shine off If I Ruled the World. People still debated who won and whether Ether was the greatest diss track for years. Then it set up the two of them working together, which was a big thing. All of that was bigger than If I Ruled the World. For that song he got the shine that artists typically get for hit singles. The battle with Jigga has gone beyond that. It's one of the biggest moments in Hip Hop ever.

Nas still makes good music. 50 mostly just trolls on social media. Of course more people anticipate a Nas album. If 50 had continued to hone is craft and not relied on beef and gimmicks to stay ready, he probably would have maintained a fanbase that kept him relevant musically too. That said, I still stand by the belief that at a time 50 damn near single handedly changed NYC rap culture (arguably for the worse). Nas' music was always highly respected, and it inspired other rappers to do better, but there was never really a time where the industry moved based on how Nas move. Nobody was changing record release dates because Nas was dropping.

Nas hasn't put out a body of work in 5 years. 50 put out the Kannan ep and a bunch of G-unit eps. So there no reason why by your logic 50 isn't in demand due to inactivity. Nas has the better Goat album, more infamous beef. Better discography. Who has put an album out the same day as Nas? He is celebrated not just in the East, but the south and west coast. After 20 years he is still more relevant than rappers like 50, Cam, Mase, etc. His impact is his legacy for creativity, lyricism, storytelling and great albums.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

 

[5 Grand]

I don't care what anybody says, Nastradamus and Streets Disciple are 4 mic albums.

Each album had some duds, but Nas is such a great rapper that his rhymes make up for any liabilities.

 

[AZTG]

Plenty of people said 50 was their favorite in his heyday, and while long term Nas probably wins out. There was a short time when 50 was in the limelight to a larger degree than Nas ever has been. It's not necessarily a good thing, but he pretty much made beef and dissension the "in" thing in NYC for a while.

Actually when Ether dropped Nas had the throne for about a year. This was before GRODT. Eminem had more pop appeal and sold more records, but amongst Hip Hop heads Nas owned 2002.

He released 3 classics in the span of one year (Stillmatic, Lost Tapes, God's Son)

True, like I said, the most shine Nas has ever gotten was as a result of his battle with Jay. And by shine, I'm just talking about general acclaim. Hardcore HipHop fans have always given him his due.

Wrong Nas got more shine off If I ruled the world. Nas was ice cold in 2000 and people still was waiting for an album. That's why Jay went after him, either though he wasn't even popping at the time. People are still patiently waiting on a Nas album. Can you say that about 50 Cent. Do the same amount of people really care right now. And he sold more records at one time than Nas. But a Nas album is more anticipated with out a single out, then a 50 cent or G-Unit. That impact when people are fiending for a album after 5 years of very little to no music.

I wouldn't say Nas got more shine off If I Ruled the World. People still debated who won and whether Ether was the greatest diss track for years. Then it set up the two of them working together, which was a big thing. All of that was bigger than If I Ruled the World. For that song he got the shine that artists typically get for hit singles. The battle with Jigga has gone beyond that. It's one of the biggest moments in Hip Hop ever.

Nas still makes good music. 50 mostly just trolls on social media. Of course more people anticipate a Nas album. If 50 had continued to hone is craft and not relied on beef and gimmicks to stay ready, he probably would have maintained a fanbase that kept him relevant musically too. That said, I still stand by the belief that at a time 50 damn near single handedly changed NYC rap culture (arguably for the worse). Nas' music was always highly respected, and it inspired other rappers to do better, but there was never really a time where the industry moved based on how Nas move. Nobody was changing record release dates because Nas was dropping.

No way was the hype of Jay and Nas working together bigger than If I ruled the World. I know you want to justify your score for impact but cmon

 

[metal face terrorist]

Disc: 1

Intro

A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We The People

Nazareth Savage

American Way - Nas feat. Kelis

These Are Our Heroes

Disciple

Sekou Story - Nas feat. Scarlett

Live Now - Nas feat. Scarlett

Rest Of My Life

Just a Moment - Nas feat. Quan

Reason - Nas featuring Emily

You Know My Style

Disc: 2

Suicide Bounce - Nas featuring Busta Rhymes

Street's Disciple - Nas feat. Olu Dara

U.B.R. (Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim)

Virgo - Nas featuring Ludacris and Doug E. Fresh

Remember The Times (Intro)

Remember The Times

The Makings Of A Perfect Bitch

Getting Married

No One Else In The Room - Nas featuring Maxwell

Bridging the Gap - Nas feat. Olu Dara

War - Nas featuring Keon Bryce

Me & You (Dedicated To Destiny)

Thief's Theme

 

[metal face terrorist]

...

 

[KneeGro_DuperMan]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I wish the OG version of Disciple on there. Shit kinda hurt when I heard the LP version's beat. But other than that you're right.

 

[jim1000]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

Message to Feds is forgettable, American way and sekou story are straight utter trash, live now was ruined by him finishing that sekou story bullshit but that one verse is fire, you know my style if you want to count that is average, everything else was good but not all time classic Nas good

 

[5 Grand]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

Message to Feds is forgettable, American way and sekou story are straight utter trash, live now was ruined by him finishing that sekou story bullshit but that one verse is fire, you know my style if you want to count that is trash, everything else was good but not all time classic Nas good

Calling any of those songs "trash" is nonsense.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Message to the Feds-2

Nazaratheth savage-4

American way-0

These are our heroes-4

Disciple-4

Sekou story-1

Live now-3.5

Rest of my life-5

Just a moment-5

Reason-4

You know my style-3

 

[its....JOHN B]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

Message to Feds is forgettable, American way and sekou story are straight utter trash, live now was ruined by him finishing that sekou story bullshit but that one verse is fire, you know my style if you want to count that is trash, everything else was good but not all time classic Nas good

Calling any of those songs "trash" is nonsense.

Because you're being a dickrider right now, streets disciple is not a classic let alone one disc

 

[its....JOHN B]

Disc 2

Suicide bounce-5

Streets disciple-3.5

UBR-3

Virgo-2

Remember the times-3.5

Making of a perfect bitch-2

Getting Married-4

No one else in the room-3.5

Bridging the gap-2

War-5

Me and you-2

Thiefs theme-5

 

[jim1000]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

Message to Feds is forgettable, American way and sekou story are straight utter trash, live now was ruined by him finishing that sekou story bullshit but that one verse is fire, you know my style if you want to count that is average, everything else was good but not all time classic Nas good

Message to the feds was forgettable?? To each its own my nigga. Sekou story/Live now is great story-telling. American way was probably my least favorite song on there but I thought it was still good. Nothing bullshit about that sekou/live now story. What was so bad about that story telling?? Shit was solid IMO.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Nas is pretty close to the perfect MC, but he doesn't deserve a perfect score.

Take Catalog for instance. He's got a big catalog and that is due to his longevity, so he deserves credit for that, but not every album in that catalog is strong. Nastradamus is pretty weak as albums from good artists go. And I personally think Double CDs are a bad decision in general, but even in the context of measure Street's Disciple against other Double CDs, it's one of the weaker ones. Compare that to someone like Pac. Sure, Illmatic is arguably better than any of Pac's albums, but all of Pac's studio albums are good. I don't believe he has the low points that Nas had which is why I gave him a 5.

2 bad albums out of 11 isn't a bad record. And Street Disciple wasn't as bad as Gift and a Curse. He had a lot of bangers on it too. Theif Theme, These are our heroes, Street Disciple, Disciples, Rest of my life, Moment in time, Nazereth Savage, U.B.R, War, Getting Married. I don't think it was that bad. I like it. And Nas have whole albums with themes. Hip-Hop is dead had a theme. Untitled, and God son had a theme and so did Life is good. There are not too many rappers with 9 really great albums mix with at least 4-6 classic or critical acclaimed albums in their discography.

I said this before and I will say it again. Street's Disciple disk 1 is a classic by itself. Not one bad song on Disk 1. I'm surprised you didn't mention reason or Live Now. I agree SD is not as bad as some here make it out to be.

I give Nas all 5's but this is too far, there's weak shit all over that first disc

My nigga name one weak shit on the first disc?? Now the 2nd disc has some songs I couldn't care for or wasn't feeling but that 1st disc was fire.

Message to Feds is forgettable, American way and sekou story are straight utter trash, live now was ruined by him finishing that sekou story bullshit but that one verse is fire, you know my style if you want to count that is average, everything else was good but not all time classic Nas good

Message to the feds was forgettable?? To each its own my nigga. Sekou story/Live now is great story-telling. American way was probably my least favorite song on there but I thought it was still good. Nothing bullshit about that sekou/live now story. What was so bad about that story telling?? Shit was solid IMO.

The first verse on live now was classic storytelling, but that whole Scarlett character was a fail, to me he gives himself an L by holding her down after Sekous death because when she's on her deathbed she's bragging about spending all of Sekous money and having tons of unprotected sex and not knowing where the aids came from, it was a failed attempt at being creative I hate everything about that shit

 

[5 Grand]

The first verse on live now was classic storytelling, but that whole Scarlett character was a fail, to me he gives himself an L by holding her down after Sekous death because when she's on her deathbed she's bragging about spending all of Sekous money and having tons of unprotected sex and not knowing where the aids came from, it was a failed attempt at being creative I hate everything about that shit

There's no such thing as "a failed attempt at being creative".

 

[its....JOHN B]

The first verse on live now was classic storytelling, but that whole Scarlett character was a fail, to me he gives himself an L by holding her down after Sekous death because when she's on her deathbed she's bragging about spending all of Sekous money and having tons of unprotected sex and not knowing where the aids came from, it was a failed attempt at being creative I hate everything about that shit

There's no such thing as "a failed attempt at being creative".

Yea there is, it's called Sekou story clown

 

[5 Grand]

The first verse on live now was classic storytelling, but that whole Scarlett character was a fail, to me he gives himself an L by holding her down after Sekous death because when she's on her deathbed she's bragging about spending all of Sekous money and having tons of unprotected sex and not knowing where the aids came from, it was a failed attempt at being creative I hate everything about that shit

There's no such thing as "a failed attempt at being creative".

Yea there is, it's called Sekou story clown

Would it be better if he used the same formula over and over again?